Stinky The Clown
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:10 AM
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For those cheering the departure of Mistah Rahm . . . . . |
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. . . . do you really think his (or *any other* COS) leaving will result in any changes in policy?
Yes, the COS has power and can control an agenda. But they can do that only to the extent the boss allows it.
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:12 AM
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1. Rahm was never as powerful or as controlling as his enemies would have us believe |
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:15 AM
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2. We will not get a progressive, we will get Rahmbot v. 2.0 Remember that |
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Rahm wasn't fired or booted out. He left of his own volition to pursue his mayoral campaign.
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:16 AM
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:18 AM
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:21 AM
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5. Agreed. I don't expect changes in policy because Rahm resigned |
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I'd take the bet that Rahm and the president feel the same about most issues.
:hi:
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:22 AM
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6. We'll have to wait and see won't we? |
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Personally I think something's going on here they aren't telling us.
His departure seems to be on very short notice and nobody is trying to talk him out of quitting.
I wonder if leaving the job was entirely his decision or if he was helped out the door.
I never liked him and I'm not unhappy he is gone but none of us knows what it means for the direction of WH policy.
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:32 AM
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9. On the speedy departure... |
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He wasn't going to run for mayor if Daley ran. Daley only announced his intention to not run just two weeks ago. The election is in February.
That said, I wonder if Obama will be happy seeing the last of Rahm. They have completely opposite temperaments and opinions on how the legislature should be handled. And everybody knows Rahm was part of the cabinet-of-rivals designed to win over the Clinton supporters.
Obama now has his old Senate chief of state to do the job. Will it make a difference? Dunno. But I bet Obama is happier.
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:23 AM
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DLC's agenda will continue.
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:29 AM
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8. I'm not really happy he's leaving. That douchebag could end up being my mayor. nt |
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:47 AM
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13. A thread cheering his run for mayor was posted here in River City today |
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So it seems there will be a race there in the Second City.
Is the mayoral race there like it is in DC and Baltimore and other northeastern cities, where the Democratic primary is the de facto mayor's race? In DC and Baltimore, it is not uncommon to have no repubican candidate at all.
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:32 AM
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10. I don't expect much change in policy |
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just a change in effectiveness in pushing that policy. Gibbs might be a little less bullied and there might be an occasional voice from outside the DLC allowed to squeak by to see the president.
I'll continue to cheer Emanuel's departure. He's been a disaster.
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:41 AM
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O picked him knowing who he was and his views, and had every opportunity to use or discard his advice.
I do not expect to see significant change.
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:42 AM
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corporations rule.. but now I can cheer for someone else in the mayor race..
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:52 AM
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14. He was negative, devisive, disrespectful |
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and worst of all, didn't appear to be under Obama's control.
I'm glad he realized that he was hurting his presidency.
:headbang: rocktivity
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Fri Oct-01-10 11:59 AM
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15. I agree with you 100%. |
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We have Presdient Obama not President Rahm. Obama's policies, and his methods, are what any Chief of Staff will support. I expect very little difference because of the change.
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Fri Oct-01-10 12:00 PM
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16. I agree with you 100%. |
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We have Presdient Obama not President Rahm. Obama's policies, and his methods, are what any Chief of Staff will support. I expect very little difference because of the change.
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Fri Oct-01-10 12:07 PM
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17. One possible intervening change: |
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The President's "bottom line" stand on various policies MAY become more clear. We really don't know to what extent the departing COS has absorbed and filtered both incoming and outgoing messages. Only time will tell....
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Fri Oct-01-10 12:34 PM
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18. We'll learn something either way |
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If Rahm was REALLY the problem -- I don't believe it -- then things are going to get better.
If not, then the folks here who keep insisting that Obama's not behind his terrible policies will have good cause to re-think their position.
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Fri Oct-01-10 12:37 PM
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19. Don't expect much change |
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It's still Obama's show. And Obama will continue to be a centrist, a moderate. I just dislike Rahm, and other DLC members. It seemed like that's what Obama's administration became. DLC. Clinton Lite. Clinton Part II.
And I will cheer when I want to cheer! And you can whine when you want to whine! :) :P :rofl:
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Fri Oct-01-10 01:37 PM
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I'm not whining at all. To be honest, I care about this at the margins at most. I think there will be almost no change that anyone will notice.
I actually like Rahm's style. I think he is a perfect choice as COS. A no holds barred fighter. I also think he had far less "control" of policy than people think.
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