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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:35 AM
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Have You Been Radiated Yet?
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For many living in a terror-spooked country, it might seem like a great government innovation: Use vans equipped with mobile X-ray units to scan vehicles at major sporting events, or even randomly, for bombs or contraband.
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But news that the US is buying custom-made vans packed with something called backscatter X-ray capacity has riled privacy advocates and sparked internet worries about "feds radiating Americans."

"This really trips up the creep factor because it's one of those things that you sort of intrinsically think the government shouldn't be doing," says Vermont-based privacy expert Frederick Lane, author of "American Privacy." "But, legally, the issue is the boundary between the government's legitimate security interest and privacy expectations we enjoy in our cars.""

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:41 AM
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1. recommend
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:46 AM
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2. I was irradiated repeatedly.
I worked in an outpatient cancer radiation center for seven years and was irradiated repeatedly. To negligible levels of course, much like the levels this device puts out.

As for the creep factor, I'm much more concerned about the ordinary citizen taking photographs and videos of my sister and putting them on youtube and removing from her "privacy expectations we enjoy".
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 11:20 AM
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3. Are you alive? IF so you have been radiated for years - table of radiation levels
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 11:21 AM by stray cat
http://www.physics.isu.edu/radinf/risk.htm


Doses from various sources

Limits for Exposures Exposure Range
Occupational Dose limit (US - NRC) 5,000 mrem/year
Occupational Exposure Limits for Minors 500 mrem/year
Occupational Exposure Limits for Fetus 500 mrem
Public dose limits due to licensed activities (NRC) 100 mrem/year
Occupational Limits (eye) 15,000 mrem/year
Occupational Limits (skin) 50,000 mrem/year
Occupational Limits (extremities) 50,000 mrem/year
Source of Exposure
Average Dose to US public from All sources 360 mrem/year
Average Dose to US Public From Natural Sources 300 mrem/year
Average Dose to US Public From Medical Sources 53 mrem/year
Average dose to US Public from Weapons Fallout < 1 mrem/year
Average Dose to US Public From Nuclear Power < 0.1 mrem/year
Coal Burning Power Plant 0.165 mrem/year
X-rays from TV set (1 inch) 0.500 mrem/hour
Airplane ride (39,000 ft.) 0.500 mrem/hour
Nuclear Power Plant (normal operation at plant boundary) 0.600 mrem/year
Natural gas in home 9 mrem/year
Average Natural Background 0.008 mR/hour 0.006-0.015 mR/hour
Average US Cosmic Radiation 27 mrem/year
Average US Terrestrial Radiation 28 mrem/year
Terrestrial background (Atlantic coast) 16 mrem/year
Terrestrial background (Rocky Mountains) 40 mrem/year
Cosmic Radiation (Sea level) 26 mrem/year
Cosmic Radiation (Denver) 50 mrem/year
Background Radiation Total (East, West, Central US) 46 mrem/year 35-75 mrem/year
Background Radiation Total (Colorado Plateau) 90 mrem/year 75-140 mrem/year
Background Radiation Total (Atlantic and Gulf in US) 23 mrem/year 15-35 mrem/year
Radionuclides in the body (i.e., potassium) 39 mrem/year
Building materials (concrete) 3 mrem/year
Drinking Water 5 mrem/year
Pocket watch (radium dial) 6 mrem/year
Eyeglasses (containing thorium) 6 - 11 mrem/year
Coast to coast Airplane roundtrip 5 mrem
Chest x-ray 8 mrem 5 - 20 mrem
Extemities x-ray 1 mrem
Dental x-ray 10 mrem
Head/neck x-ray 20 mrem
Cervical Spine x-ray 22 mrem
Lumbar spinal x-rays 130 mrem
Pelvis x-ray 44 mrem
Hip x-ray 83 mrem
Shoe Fitting Fluroscope (not in use now) 170 mrem
Upper GI series 245 mrem
Lower GI series 405 mrem
Diagnostic thyroid exam (to the thyroid)
Diagnostic thyroid exam (to the Whole Body)
CT (head and body) 1,100 mrem
Therapeutic thyroid treatment (dose to the thyroid) 10,000,000 mrad
Therapeutic thyroid treatment (dose to the whole body) 7,000 mrem 5,000-15,000 mrad
Earliest Onset of Radiation Sickness 75,000 mrad
Onset of hematopoietic syndrome 300,000 mrad 100,000 to 800,000 mrad
Onset of gastrointestinal syndrome 1,000,000 mrad 500,000 to 1,200,000 mrad
Onset of cerebrovacular syndrome 10,000,000 mrad >5,000,000 mrad
Thershold for cataracts (dose to the eye) 200,000 mrad
Expected 50% death without medical attention 400,000 mrad 300,000 to 500,000 mrem
Doubling dose for genetic effects 100,000 mrad
Doubling dose for cancer 500,000 mrad (8% per Sv, natural level at 20%)
Dose for increase cancer risk of 1 in a 1,000 1,250 mrem (8% per Sv)
Consideration of theraputic abortion threshold (dose in utero) 10,000 mrem
SL1 Reactor Accident highest dose to survivor 27,000 mrem
Three Mile Island (dose at plant duration of the accident) 80 mrem
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 12:05 PM
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4. Where is our 4th Amendment? It appears to have gone missing.
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 12:06 PM by RC
Amendment IV

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.


Probable cause not needed anymore. "Hey, I'm bored, let's go scan some parking lots. Might turn up some unpatriotic lefties, ya know?
There might be some fun tonight."
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 12:12 PM
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5. K&R n/t
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 12:15 PM
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6. If you're not doing anything wrong then you have nothing to worry about..
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