Transcript of Brown-Whitman debate today (Oct 2.).

[A-Schwarzenegger]

http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/10/02/2102481/transcript-of-brown-whitman-debate.html

Havent found a video of it yet.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

1. On Nicky Diaz Santillan (the housekeeper):

Whitman:
"So this is a very sad situation, and the Nicky that I saw on the press conference three days ago was not the Nicky that I knew for nine years. And you know my first clue was she kept referring to me as Ms. Whitman and for the 10 years she worked -- nine years she worked for me, she called me Meg and I called her Nicky. And so here's the truth, here's the real story of what happened. We hired Nicky because she had all the appropriate documents. We went through a hiring agency and then in June of 2009, she came to me to tell me that she was here illegally and did not have the appropriate documents. I made the hardest decision I have almost made in my life, which was to let her go. And my lawyer said to me, there's not much you can do for Nicky. She forged documents, she was here illegally and there's really not much one can do. So it broke my heart, it was incredibly difficult for me to do. But you know what? the real tragedy here is Nicky. After November 2, no one's gonna be watching out for Nicky Diaz and Jerry, you know, you should be ashamed. You and your surrogates put her deportation at risk, you put her out there and you should be ashamed for sacrificing Nicky Diaz on the altar of your political ambitions."

MES: MR. BROWN, HAS ANYONE IN YOUR CAMPAIGN OR CLOSE TO YOUR CAMPAIGN HAVE HAD ANYTHING TO DO DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY WITH THESE REVELATIONS AND HAVE YOU EVER KNOWINGLY OR UNKNOWINGLY HIRED AN UNDOCUMENTED WORKER?

JB: No and no. And let me just add - there you saw something. This is incredible, Meg, I didn't want to hit you on this, but when you try to evade responsibility, you're going around the state saying, employers must be accountable for hiring unlawful people. There ought to be raids on businesses. There's no path to citizenship, no path. And young Latinos who may have lived here their whole lives and got A's in high school should be barred from going to Fresno State. And then what happened here? You're the one who falsely defamed this woman by saying she stole your mail. It came out that it's not true and you had information, or at least you had enough to know there was something wrong here. So you're the one who says, hey, I, you know -- everyone's gotta be accountable, this is a terrible thing, we have all these millions of people, but you don't want to pass the citizenship. I mean, let's be sympathetic and let's really empathize with the millions of people that are in the shadows and you wanna keep them in the shadows and now you are trying to evade responsibility. Don't run for governor if you can't stand up on your own two feet and say, hey, I made a mistake, I'm sorry, let's go on from here. You have blamed her, blamed me, blamed the left, blamed the unions, but you don't take accountability and you can't be a leader unless you're willing to stand on your own two feet and say, yeah, I made a mistake and I'm going on from here.

MES: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION REGARDING THIS, VERY BRIEFLY JUST REQUIRES A YES OR A NO AND IT'S ABOUT A DETECTOR LIE. THIS ISSUE AROSE THIS WEEK. ARE YOU BOTH WILLING TO SUBMIT AND TAKE A DETECTOR LYING TEST ABOUT THIS ISSUE, MR. BROWN?

JB: I'm not accused of anything so there's no point in me taking a test. She's the one who said she wants to do it. It's her veracity that is in conflict with the housemaid. So that's the issue.

MES: MS. WHITMAN, WOULD YOU BE WILLING?

MW: I'd like to go back with what Mr. Brown said earlier. You know what? I took accountability. We hired someone who I thought was here legally. She was not. We unfortunately had to let her go. And what would you have had me do? Would you have had me call the Attorney General's Office to have her deported? What would you have had me do other than exactly what we did? My husband and I played by the rules and the fact that your campaign two weeks ago was talking about this issue, the fact that you are joined at the hip with Gloria Allred. It was a political stunt and I think you should be ashamed.

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2. Thanks for the link!

Univision translated the debate in English, but it's difficult to find it at their site if you're not fluent in Spanish. You can find clips of portions of the debate, but I haven't found a page yet for the entire debate.