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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 04:15 AM
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John Cory: The Jungle of Screaming Souls
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/267-33/3493-the-jungle-of-screaming-souls

The Jungle of Screaming Souls
By John Cory, Reader Supported News
02 October 10
Reader Supported News | Perspective

"take your pleasantries
your generalizations, good intentions,
sweet words, and half-truths,
put them in a box.
drape a flag over it.
and bury it with the rest of the dead."

- Orrin Gorman McClellan, veteran/poet
March 22, 1985 - May 18, 2010

How lost are we, that we cannot feel and hear and see the anguish of war?

Orrin Gorman McClellan, a 25-year-old Vet, died on May 18th. It was suicide by alphabet - PTSD. His mother, Judith Gorman, said, "He never really came all the way home." The Seattle Times article by Hal Benton is here.

The suicide rate among veterans and active-duty soldiers is escalating at an alarming rate. Over the weekend of September 24-26, Fort Hood had four suicides and a murder. There have already been 14 suicides at Fort Hood this year, and this is only one military installation.

How lost are we?

Five soldiers have been charged with murder for sport in Afghanistan, where fingers and human bones were taken as trophies along with photographs of corpses. Add this to the growing list of atrocities like Haditha, Abu Ghraib, Hamdania, the killings at the canal, Mahmoudiya, the torture at Camp Nama and the as yet undiscovered evils hidden in the mountains and desert sands.

In September of 2003, Spc. Alyssa Peterson, an Arabic-speaking interrogator, was assigned to the prison at Tal-Afar. After two nights, Alyssa objected to the interrogation techniques and refused to participate. A few days later she committed suicide. More here.

- snip -

America wanders lost and embedded in its Jungle of Screaming Souls.


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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 06:29 AM
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1. Wow--the subject line gave me a flashback
I read Bao Ninh's novel, The Sorrow of War, years ago, and was struck both by the book and by his unforgettable description of 'The Jungle of Screaming Souls.'

Ninh is a Vietnam War veteran--of the North Vietnamese Army. From his own war experience and its aftermath, he is intimately familiar with PTSD, and writes eloquently about the experience of war trauma survivors. He shows very effectively that Americans are not so 'exceptional' when it comes to PTSD.

Surprisingly, the government of Vietnam allowed his book to be published there. I can't find my copy at the moment, but John Colmey's 1994 review for Time Magazine provides further detail:


The Other Side of Hell
By JOHN COLMEY/HANOI Monday, Jun. 27, 1994

<snip>
There are ghosts everywhere. Sparkling incense marks the entrance to the "Jungle of Screaming Souls," where the trees and plants "moan a ghostly music," and where Kien watches his battalion wiped out in hand-to-hand combat. He returns years later as part of a Vietnamese team to collect the remains of his men and finds that their souls are still loose, like his memories, "wandering in every corner and bush in the jungle . . . refusing to depart for the Other World." In Kien's mind, asleep or awake, in battle or in peace, the dead talk, and he talks back to them.

The only dreams that give Kien escape involve his free-spirited childhood sweetheart, who refuses to embrace government propaganda about the fighting. But his memories of their prewar days together also edge toward torment. Before he leaves for the front, she entices him to miss the train and then insists on traveling with him as he tries to catch up with his battalion. On the way, Kien is forced to watch her raped by another soldier.

While the novel takes Western readers on a rare journey to the other side of the Vietnam War, Americans may be surprised at the small role they play. Like many NVA vets, Ninh says he never fought against Americans, "except those in helicopters. I only fought against Vietnamese. Our war was mostly brother against brother. That's what is most bitter."

Just as novels by some American veterans paint an unflattering portrait of the U.S. Army, Sorrow of War shows North Vietnamese soldiers taking drugs, gambling and deserting -- depictions that provoked an unusual silence from the government and harsh criticism from some peers in Vietnam. Yet the censors were evidently moved by the book's unflinching sincerity and Ninh's literary gifts. "My book is a reaction against attempts to embellish war," he says, "and to forget the human side."

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,980994-2,00.html#ixzz11Hx8cak8



The OP-linked article, Ninh's book and the Time review are all well worth reading. The only thing I would add is a caution to not associate PTSD exclusively with war crimes. The vast majority of war trauma survivors--veterans and civilians--never committed such atrocities. It's important to understand that merely witnessing the horrors of war can have profound psychological repercussions.

When I read the OP-linked article,there was something else that resonated with me--its final paragraph:


"If only I had wings to fly back to our beautiful house on Lo Duc Street, to eat with Dad, Mom, and my siblings, one simple meal with watercress and one night's sleep under the old cotton blanket. Last night I dreamed of peace."


I returned to Vietnam three times in the 90's. On one occasion, I was invited to a coffee plantation where I had lunch with with a group that included former Viet Cong, North Vietnamese Army vets, and ARVN (South Vietnamese Army) vets. We also had one guy whom the others laughingly referred to as "the monk." To avoid being grabbed (drafted) by by the NVA/Viet Cong or the ARVN's, he had hid out at a Buddhist monastery during the war, pretending to be a monk. At the end of the meal, I expressed the wish that all those years ago, we could have been sharing a meal together, and conversation, and laughter, instead of killing each other. Everyone agreed, and at that point we were all in tears.

K&R for the OP, Hissyspit. :thumbsup:

Love & Peace,
pinboy3niner

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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 11:38 AM
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2. "In the early morning rain,
another soldier died today,
each must go his own way,
in the early morning rain."

I placed his boots at attention; I placed is bayonet into the ground; I straightened his helmet on the butt of his weapon, but the wind made it nod a little, a sign of understanding, I saluted, and a tear drifted down my cheek. Someday, we will be together again brother/sister...:patriot



"There are no tears in heaven" Eric Clapton

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 12:16 PM
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3. Clapton's best song, and he's had many good ones.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:23 PM
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5. Excellent song nt
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 12:16 PM
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4. recommend
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:33 AM
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6. Thanks, Hissyspit
Your OP deserves much more attention than it's getting.

Kudos to you on a great find! :thumbsup:

:yourock:
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