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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 08:27 AM
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While You Were Weekending: California Makes Pot an Infraction
Okay Californians, Johnny Law is serious this time!

If you get caught with up to an ounce of marijuana, you'll be in big trouble. In fact, you can get fined as much as $100. No kidding!

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill into law on Friday that reduces possession of that amount of weed from a misdemeanor to an infraction. So if you've got enough on you to make three or four joints, then you're going to get into as much trouble as you would if the California Highway Patrol gave you a speeding ticket.

...snip...

Still on the ballot for November, however, is Proposition 19, which would legalize recreational use of marijuana, making even the fine for possession moot, null and void.

Read more: http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/10/04/while-you-were-weekending-california-makes-pot-an-infraction/#ixzz11OcrHZnl

Seems to me that a speeding ticket is a heck of a lot more than $100! But...interesting that possession for personal use has been decriminalized. With an infraction, there is no element of "intent" involved, thus no crime has taken place. Works for me!

:smoke:
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 08:44 AM
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1. Welcome aboard!
Massachusetts has had that law since voters agreed to it in 2008.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 08:45 AM
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2. Lol, that's what we have here in MA now - a $100 fine for possession under an ounce.
:)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 08:48 AM
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3. Following Massachusetts
We did hat last year.

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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 08:49 AM
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4. Actually, we decriminalized it in 1978
and the fine has been $100.00 since then. The significance of the legislation was that violation WAS a misdemeanor but is now classified as an infraction which takes away the criminality element.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 09:42 AM
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5. Exactly....
...it cannot be considered on anyone's record for any reason of an penalty enhancement on the sentencing for another criminal act. This, IMO, is very significant. While it was a misdemeanor, it was a crime. Now...it is no longer a crime of any nature.
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 09:46 AM
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6. "So if you've got enough on you to make three or four joints"
For quantities under an ounce? Damn! You twist some fatties!



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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 09:48 AM
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7. ...
...:smoke:
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:59 AM
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8. Schwarzenegger opposes Prop. 19. He's trying to take the wind out of the sails.
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad he is reducing penalties. But keep the big picture in mind and don't let up until you have full statewide legalization.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:04 PM
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9. Totally agree and I have no clue why Arnold is against legalizing grass.
It is a monetary windfall for Calif. Not sure what the hell is going on with this. Will DEFINITELY vote for legalization in the election.

Question: My pals and I were discussing this over the weekend and wondering how it would be sold ~~ when it is legal. One of them is familiar with medical MJ and said that it come in cubes and one uses a bong. I am wondering if the plans to sell it when it is legal will have it sold in the same way. Any info on this?
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:19 PM
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10. Because it's still the political thing to do...pretend that marijuana is the most dangerous drug
in America. Continue to buy into the Drug War even though everyone is calling it bullshit. What this shows me is that they fear Prop 19 will pass because this only gives credibility to the proponents of Prop 19, not to those trying to keep the status quo. He's trying to position himself on the right side of this issue without fully coming out in favor of the measure.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 01:19 PM
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12. Weird...
...why would he care? He is not running for any office.
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Mike Marble Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 12:30 PM
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11. Schwarzenegger said the state couldn't afford the court costs.
Although it has been a $100 fine since the 1970s, it was always a misdemeanor, requiring a court appearance. It costs money to have a judge, public defender, and prosecutor show up.

In fact, several California pot defense attorneys have told me that if people arrested under the old law demanded a jury trial, prosecutors would just drop the charges.

Still, it's time for legalization. Yes on Prop 19!
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 01:21 PM
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13. Yeah, that is pretty much what I have seen on anyone fighting the charge...
...it is a misdeamenor...so it is usually no big deal with the DAs. In LA County, however, the City Atty prosecutes misdemeanors and they can be a mega pain in the ass. They think EVERY case they get is worthy of the death penalty. They simply have not spent enough time in the criminal courts to have Clue One.

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