Do more Americans agree with right-wing Repubs or with centrist Democrats??

[kentuck]

Of course, more Americans identify with the Democratic Party, we believe. But more right-wing Repubs may vote in the next election than Democrats? What does that mean?.

Are we deceiving ourselves? Is America now a right-wing country? Never in our lives have we seen a Republican Party as radical and right-wing as this one and they are in position to win the House and possibly the Senate of the United States.

How much longer can we deny this reality? Given a choice between a right-wing nutjob and a centrist Democrat, America will choose the right-wing nutjob.

We should not run from these questions. Is America going the wrong direction or is the Democratic Party going the wrong direction? Perhaps I should not disturb the cocoon with such thoughts?

[msongs]

1. maybe voters prefer real republicans to fake ones? nt

[kenfrequed]

2. False choice narrative

On the isues, more Americans actually agree with progressive Democrats than either right wing republicans or centrists.

[Scuba]

16. Agreed.

[Ishoutandscream2]

3. Kentuck, I think he we have to look at our own experiences

I live in the hometown of Ralph Hall, oldest member of congress who just announced he has joined the teaparty caucus in congress with Michelle Bachman. My town voted 80% for McCain. Being a Democrat and just slightly to the left defines one as a radical here. Just about everyone I work with are very right wing. Bumper stickers on cars bemoan Obama and "socialism." And, to top it off, on the main drag is a sign saying, "Vote for less government expansion, vote Republican." And next to it, "Re-Elect Rick Perry."

So, Kentuck, I view this nation as very right wing. It blows my mind when I read some DUers say they associate with no one who is a Republican. I can't help it; I'm surrounded by them.

[rfranklin]

4. My condolences...

It must be difficult.

[kentuck]

5. Your reality is much like my own...

I live in Colorado Springs. I have done my best to change it but everybody knows Colorado Springs. There are a lot of military bases and retirees in the Springs. They generally hate Obama and all Democrats.

[TBF]

6. They are voting republican because democrats aren't listening -

We have tons of people in this country - workers - who see no difference on economic issues between the parties.

So, they vote on cultural issues. I might look at Palin and think "ugh, stupid, and wants to put bibles in the classroom" and I'll vote against her. Others may feel very comfortable with her religious beliefs so they decide maybe they like her and will vote for her.

The democrats don't give any extra incentive to look past the cultural stuff and vote for them. Jobs programs? Health care? Education? Little to no help from Obama on this. Maybe you can pay more money to actually get insurance in 2014, maybe you got extended unemployment until that ran out. That's it ...

So, that is the dilemma. Until democrats figure out how to communicate with workers (as repubs and tea partiers have) we won't have a chance to get those votes.

[HughBeaumont]

7. Repubs = "COWBWAHS!". Democrats = "tax-n-spend pantywaist hairdressers".

They've been conditioned to the hilt since Reagan and have gotten worse and worse every year. They learned it from Boomers who became right-wing fanatics. The fact that the president is BLAAAAAAAAAACK only makes things worse. Never mind the facts that economic data is always better under Democratic presidents or that the greatest expansions of government occur under right-wing presidents. The FleaBaggers don't care about such things because they're never going to admit error.

They're not going to win the Senate by a longshot.

[OHdem10]

8. It is more about "attitude". RWers come across as certain and

firm in their stands. They display a self-confidence
and toughness which inspires leadership.

Centrist Democrats often appear non-committal, and
do not take stands. You do not assocaite toughness
with Centrists.

In a world in which anxiety about the future is palpable,
people are looking for assurance. Unfortunately someone
who knows what he believes, is not afraid to state it
with firmness and certainty can draw larger numbers of
perople to his/her side.

[NNN0LHI]

9. How well did Dennis Kucinich do in the Democratic primary?

What was his best showing, percentage wise, in any state?

:shrug:

Don

[kentuck]

13. Centrists will not vote for a leftist in a "primary"...

George McGovern was the last "leftist" to run in a general election and we know what happened to him. We don't want to get burned again. Is there any reason to believe it wouldn't be the same the next time? Or have times changed?

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[kenfrequed]

21. right...

So tell me why it is the centrist DLC/Blue dogs are the ones hurting the most in the polls against the republicans? I think their failure to inspire the base and their willingness to undercut the democratic agenda may be the reasons why they are vulnerable.

There are exceptions but generally it is the conserva-dems that are having to update their resumes.

[zipplewrath]

10. GOP is populist

My frustration has been watching the GOP leverage populism. They are very good at framing their positions in populist terms. Who doesn't want a tax cut? They find anger or fear and they package a way for people to feel good about feeling scared.

[Ishoutandscream2]

12. Excellent point. They have portrayed themselves as "populist"

+1

[OHdem10]

14. Dark Populism based on Divisiveness. Democrats need to

project a more positive populism based on support of Working
Class people.

[ThomWV]

11. Maybe it will help if we start with what we know

I do not disagree with what you've said, the questions must be asked and answered. But one thing sticks out in my mind. No matter what the cause of today's situation we do know what it takes to get voters out in mass, that is a failure as obvious and odious as the Bush Administration proved to be. I am not suggesting that it has to get quite that bad again to bring out sensibility in voters either. But back to your point, that the question must be asked, I agree with that completely because I am certain that the nation can not withstand a takeover of Government by today's "Republicans."

[mmonk]

15. A question that is never posed to the people is unknown.

So one has to look at results. The results however, beg the question asked.

[Lost4words]

17. it didnt have to be this way, I blame the New Democrats/Centrists!

personally, I believe the democratic party is on life support and near death.

[RandomThoughts]

19. Only one thing to play in that situation.

Brethe
http://www.pp2g.tv/vYX1-Y3A_.aspx

Ok maybe a couple of songs to post.

Brethe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCmsZUN4r_s



Side note, there are a few doctrines about people unable to move, many of them actually.

I figure it is more a state of people stuck in a rut, and things trying to help them. When stuck in a ditch, you rock the car. Makes sense. Although the love song rocks :)

[RandomThoughts]

20. Side note, some might be offended by N word in that video.

I did not see it that way, although if it bothers someone, they should go speak to the writer of that song. If you filter out that stuff, there is some good thoughts in that video. I ignored that usage and assumed it was lingo added by the singer of that song.

Just saw a article on MSNBC on the n-word.

[spanone]

22. new ?. does the media agree with rw repubs or centrist demss

they influence the vote...today more than ever

[bvar22]

23. When polled on the ISSUES,

more Americans agree with the Green Party than the Repubs or Democrats.