Latest polling in Iowa: Edwards 29%, Obama 23%, Hillary 21%; Romney 30%, McCain 18%, Guiliani 17%

[Czolgosz]

Link: http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070519/NEWS/70519028/1001

[mrcheerful]

1. Spud heads aren't known for making smart decisions, except for the liberals who are stuck there.

[EstimatedProphet]

2. "Spud heads"?

Do they grow many potatoes in Iowa?

[nini]

3. LOL that's what I was thinking

perhaps someone doesn't know the difference between Iowa and Idaho. :D

[mrcheerful]

10. Sorry got ear heads mixed up with spud heads was thinking of cheese heads

when I headed in to post my head post. I guess I wasn't thinking a Head.

[Connonym]

31. yeah but cheeseheads are from WI

don't worry, all midwesterners are interchangeable and stupid so we don't mind

[Common Sense Party]

8. Never been to Iowa, have you?

But don't let that stop you from ignorantly maligning all Iowans, en masse.

Tells us much more about you than about the fine folks of the Hawkeye State.

[mrcheerful]

11. Read my post above. Sorry had a lot of drama going on when I posted.

[Cha]

16. Make that "Cornheads" and

we'll talk.

[mrcheerful]

18. That works for me, lol.

[Connonym]

32. born in Iowa and don't mind getting called pigheaded

:-D

[Hamlette]

4. now I'm thinking it's gonna be Romney

can he convince 50%+ of Americans we need to send an additional 100,000 troops to Iraq and double then number in Guantanamo...or will he change his opinion.


What is WRONG with this country?

[edwardsdefender]

24. Well, I said back in 2005 that the GOP ticket will be Romney/Jeb Bush or Hagel/Romney

[Hamlette]

35. it is going to be unbearable here! (Utah) Ugh! n/t

[skipos]

5. If Richardson can bump Hillary in to 4th place, I'll be doing cartwheels

good to see Romney doing so well too. He is one of the easier ones to beat, imo.

[senseandsensibility]

6. Edwards sure doesn't get credit in the "media" for being in

first place, does he? And it's not just in Iowa; he's first in the latest Newsweek poll as well.

[Czolgosz]

7. The Newsweek poll is a Democrat vs. Repub head-to-head, right? Edwards consistently does best of all

candidates in both parties in head-to-head polls.

[senseandsensibility]

9. Yes, but in the newsweek article the lead paragraph proclaims

that Obama beats all the repuke candidates, which is true, then goes on to say that Hillary does too. Edwards is listed way down in the article as also beating them all, kind of as an also-ran. But if you look at the numbers, he actually beats them by wider margins than either Obama or Hillary. It kind of makes you wonder.

[Blackhatjack]

14. IMHO there is a definite attempt by MSM to marginalize Edwards b/c Repubs fear him

Remember, Edwards hs very good favorability ratings, he is rated as best choice to reach the independent/undecided and unaffiliated voters, he beats every Repub head-to-head, the Repubs used all the opposition research they had on him in 2004 and the cupboard is bare on personal scandals and wrongdoing.

While Democrats may not have Edwards at the top of their list just yet, you can bet that Edwards is the one candidate Repubs do not want to face in the General Election of 2008.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

15. Actually, I don't "wonder" at all. Media is purposely trying to ignore Edwards and

continue to play up Clinton and Obama only.

One reason is because they see the Clinton and Obama candidacies as more "interesting" news wise (female, ex First Lady, black candidate).

The other is they see those candidates as easier to beat (for reasons beyond the scope of this thread).

They can't completely ignore Edwards because he's polling so well (if they could completely ignore him, they would).

My hope is that he rips off a win or two in the early going and forces the media to abandon this.

[Tejanocrat]

17. I think the media purposely downplays Edwards but only because fighting poverty is less newsexy than

the first black president or the first woman president (especially when the media spent most of a decade falsely and unfairly characterizing the woman candidate as the Wicked Witch of the White House).

I don't subscribe to the view that the media downplays Edwards because he is more electable than Obama or HRC (although I certainly agree that Edwards is far more electable than any of our other candidates and if I chose candidates solely based on their electability - and I don't - I'd certainly be supporting Edwards).

[edwardsdefender]

26. No, they do it because they fear that he would win whereas they probably have internally polling to

show that Hillary and Obama would not. Since the corporations that cut their checks want a Republican to win, of course the media will pump up the ones they don't expect to win a General election.

[B Calm]

30. BINGO!! Lets face it, America is not ready yet to vote for a woman

and the corporate owned press knows it!

[Tejanocrat]

36. Shhh! Don't tell Patty Murray, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Lisa Murkowski, Blanche Lincoln, Barbara Boxer,

Dianne Feinstein, Mary Landrieu, Olympia Snowe, Susan Collins, Barbara Mikulski, Debbie Stabenow, Amy Klobuchar, Claire McCaskill, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Elizabeth Dole, Maria Cantwell, Sarah Palin, Janet Napolitano, Jodi Rell, Ruth Ann Minner, Linda Lingle, Kathleen Sebelius, Kathleen Blanco, Jennifer Granholm, and Christine Gregoire.

[B Calm]

37. Why? Are they running for President too?

[bigtree]

12. I think Richardson is pulling 10%

double digits for the first time

[Czolgosz]

13. Among the 4 early primary/caucus states, I'm surprised to see Richardson doing worse in Nevada than

Iowa.

I think Richardson is clearly (in terms of his campaign success, but not in terms of his ideology) the cream of the second tier crop. I'm starting to think that the next three major debates (July 23 in South Carolina, August 19 in Iowa, and September 26 in New Hampshire) will be the last chances for Dodd, Biden, Kucinich, or Richardson to really break out and make the campaign a genuine 4-way race.

I think Gore, if he's going to run with the goal of winning, has to get into the race in time to participate in the August Iowa debate. If it's not already too late for Clark to get into the race (and I think it is), then he definitely needs to be in the race before the South Carolina debate (and if he's not in by then, we can safely assume that he's just holding himself out as a VP candidate).

[Clark2008]

19. You think it's too late when most people aren't even paying attention.

Go ahead, talk to folks on the street. Just grab someone and ask them who's running for president. You'll be lucky if you get "Hillary Clinton" out of it.

Seriously, it won't be too late until September. People ARE NOT paying attention.

P.S. While I do hope Clark jumps in, this post isn't about Clark (or Gore) jumping in. It's about the fact that the American people are too busy gearing up for summer and aren't paying attention to politics.

[Czolgosz]

20. Most people aren't paying attention but most precinct chairmen, most heavy-hitter fund-raisers, most

campaign staffers, most pollsters, most activists, and most other people who will work to get a campaign running are paying attention and every day more and more of them are choosing a candidate and campaign to support, and once they look Obama, or Hillary, or Edwards in the eye and sigh up to help their campaigns, the great majority of those workers are not going to back out on those commitments. I'm not suggesting that it's too late for Clark to run and have a major impact on the race; I'm suggesting that it's getting too late for him to run and win. Clark had a real shot last time, but he lost in large part because he got into the race too late. Clark is way too smart to have not learned from that experience. Because Clark is too smart to have failed to learn his lesson from getting into the race too late last time, I conclude that he has made other plans (my guess is either he will run to gain a platform for his message with the understanding that he won't win or he is sitting back to offer his services as Hillary's VP).

[Jed Dilligan]

21. Weren't people just saying

his career was over because of hair or something?


:rofl:

[skipos]

22. The slight negativity (or less positivity) towards Clinton is interesting, though not surprising

to me.

"Obama, one of the new faces in the 2008 presidential race, enjoys favorability ratings nearly as high as Edwards in the poll. He’s also the most popular second choice of likely caucus participants, cited by 25 percent. That compares with 22 percent for Edwards and 19 percent for Clinton."

"Like Edwards and Obama, nearly everyone planning to attend the Democratic caucuses has an opinion about Clinton, the third-place finisher in the poll. But overall, those opinions aren’t quite as positive. About two-thirds have favorable feelings toward her and nearly one-third look upon her unfavorably."

Edwards - 29% 1st choice, 22% 2nd choice = 51
Obama - 23% 1st choice, 25% 2nd choice = 48
Clinton - 21% 1st choice, 19% 2nd choice = 40

[UrbScotty]

23. Nice to see two good candidates on top. (nt)

[Initech]

25. ROMNEY?!!! You've got to be kidding.

[edwardsdefender]

27. Kidding? Why? I said he'd be the GOP nominee back in 2005. The Bush family is behind Romney

all the way, which is why Jeb will be his running mate, and why the GOP establishment in DC is lining up behind Romney. Romney "looks like" a President. If he wasn't Mormon, he would be the next President, and the electronic voting machines just might put him there still. If it's Romney versus Edwards and Edwards is still polling 20% ahead of Romney, if that election is stolen, then it'd be obvious that it was.

Romney and Jeb


Romney and Dubya


Romney and Laura with a precious little girl
http://graphics.boston.com:80/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2004/10/06/1097069659_7752.jpg

[Initech]

28. If Jeb is his VP, you can guarantee that Romney's presidency wont last very long.

You know the BFEE is desperate to keep their power any way they could, I wouldn't be surprised if Romney's elected and he mysteriously "disappears" from the White House a year after the election in the same way that Bush I tried to bump off Reagan back in 1981.

[Czolgosz]

29. Jeb will NOT be his VP pick. If you watch the Repub debates, those guys were running from George as

fast as they could. With Bush's approval in the low 30s and falling, no one wants another Bush on the ticket. Jeb (and the rest of team Bush) is backing Romney and I wonder if it might be - in some small part - because he won't win the general election, leaving the race open for Jeb in 2012.

[Initech]

33. How about this for an amendment:

Instead of an anti-gay marriage law, we should make it so that it's now illegal for anyone with the last name Bush to run for any sort of high office, including VP and Pres. Sorry, George, you ruined it for the whole family!

[Warren DeMontague]

34. Someone needs to tell these folks that HILLARY IS THE DEM FRONT RUNNER!!!!!!!!!

They're not ALLOWED to support anyone else!