Jimmy Carter will be on This Week w/George Stephanopoulos

[kerry-is-my-prez]

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[emilyg]

1. Thank you. Plan to watch.

[Catchawave]

2. Thanks for the head's up !

You know he's going to smackdown President Chucklenutz :evilgrin:

[kerry-is-my-prez]

5. They mentioned his worst President quote in the write up

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[nytemare]

3. Really, he was critical of Clinton where he needed to be.

He didn't lend blind support to Clinton because they shared parties, but I guarantee he will be attacked over his statements on Bush because Carter is a democrat. Carter has been pretty balanced with his criticism, though.

The aftermath of this should be pretty interesting. I will have to set my recorder.

[Tom Joad]

4. Go Jimmy!

[magellan]

6. I saw something very disturbing about him and E. Timor this morning

I think it was "Manufacturing Consent" with Noam Chomsky. There's a part in there that claims Carter signed off on supplying Indonesia with all the arms it needed to invade E. Timor. Is this true? Why did he do it? Those people were massacred!

[applegreen]

7. Jimmy Carter on TV

Thanks for the info.

[stevedeshazer]

10. It wasn't Jimmy, it was Jerry Ford and Henry Kissinger

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_invasion_of_East_Timor

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The Indonesian invasion of East Timor, also known as Operasi Seroja, or 'Operation Lotus', began on December 7 1975. With US approval, Indonesian forces launched a massive air and sea invasion using almost entirely US-supplied weapons and equipment.

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The invasion, which began in the early hours of 7 December 1975, came in the form of a naval bombardment on Dili, followed by landings of paratroopers from the air and of marines on the beaches. Indonesian soldiers killed civilians indiscriminately in the streets of Dili, and after an incident when Indonesian soldiers fired on each other, indulged themselves in a rampage of rape, looting of Chinese shops and public executions on the wharf. On December 10, a second invasion resulted in the capture of the second biggest town, Baucau, and on Christmas Day, around 10,000 - 15,000 troops landed at Liquisa and Maubara, where further mass killings of civilians took place. By April 1976 Indonesia had some 35,000 soldiers in East Timor, with another 10,000 standing by in Indonesian West Timor. A large proportion of these troops were from Indonesia's elite commands.

[magellan]

14. From what I'm reading Carter was complicit too

In 1978 he sent Mondale to Jakarta and agreed to resupply Indonesia with the weapons it needed to continue the invasion and slaughter.

[stevedeshazer]

15. Help me out for supporting information

Thanks in advance.

[magellan]

17. Here

From Chomsky's site:

4. What was the United States role regarding Indonesia’s December 1975 invasion?

On the eve of the invasion, U.S. President Gerald Ford and his Secretary of State, Henry Kissinger, were in Jakarta meeting with Suharto. Kissinger later claimed that East Timor wasn’t even discussed, but this claim has been exposed as a lie.

In fact, Washington gave Suharto a green light to invade. Ninety percent of the weaponry used by the Indonesian forces in their invasion was from the United States (despite a U.S. law that bans the use of its military aid for offensive purposes) and the flow of arms, including counterinsurgency equipment, was secretly increased (a point that should be borne in mind in interpreting what is going on today).

The United States also lent diplomatic support to the invaders. In the United Nations, U.S. ambassador Daniel Patrick Moynihan successfully worked, as he boasted in his memoirs, to make sure that the international organization was ineffective in challenging Jakarta’s aggression. Under the presidency of Jimmy Carter, the self-proclaimed champion of human rights, there was a further increase in U.S. military aid to Indonesia. Since 1975, the United States has sold Jakarta over $1 billion worth of military equipment.
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http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199910--02.htm


And this from another site:

Noam Chomsky - Why Americans should care about East Timor

...
The massacre continued, peaking in 1978 with the help of new arms provided by the Carter administration. The toll to date is estimated at about 200,000, the worst slaughter relative to population since the Holocaust. By 1978, the United States was joined by Britain, France, and others eager to gain what they could from the slaughter. Protest in the West was minuscule. Little was even reported. US press coverage, which had been high in the context of concerns over the fall of the Portuguese empire, declined to practically nothing in 1978.
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http://www.oikos.org/ecology/timor.htm

[TacticalPeek]

8. K&R

:kick:

[Kurovski]

9. 5th recommend.

And now all shall know!

[malaise]

11. Thanks

I'll be watching.

[rodeodance]

12. thanks. i will be watching

[cal04]

13. not on in NY I'm watching and he's not mentioned

I can't figure out why

[stevedeshazer]

16. I just watched, and Jimmy wasn't on. What gives?