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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:08 PM
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Nightline segment on picky eaters. I can relate. This is traumatic.


They talked about a little girl who eats very few foods and is hungry all the time.


Kids have more sensitive taste buds than adults. This subject is important to me because I am a grown-up picky eater. I have FOOD ALLERGIES too.

My grandmother was very bossy. She was an overachiever, a County Home Demonstration Agent who worked for the Mississippi and Texas A&M Extension Systems, and a horrible cook. She threw everything in a pot and boiled it to death. She would talk about nutrition and we would say "How does it have any vitamins left in it after you boiled it to death?"

Her idea of veggies was "greens". That's the bitter leaves of vegetables. Like turnip greens, collard greens, etc. I would not eat them. They stink. It was that and iceberg lettuce. I was grown before I found out about how good broccoli is!!! I was grown before I found out that black eyed peas didn't have to taste metallic!

She wanted me to eat stringy tough meat. I wouldn't eat that either. My mom tried to get me to eat tomatoes, raw onions, bell peppers of all colors. I wouldn't eat them. Turns out that I am allergic to tomatoes and bell peppers, and raw onions have some volatile oil that gives me an upset stomach. The allergy to the tomatoes and bell peppers is called a nightshade allergy. Those plants are in the same family as deadly nightshade (Belladonna). Dad was allergic to tomatoes too. They are way too acid for me.

I put sugar in my tea and they yelled at me about that(low blood sugar problems). They made me use liquid saccharin (only artificial sweeteners they had back then). They insisted that "it tastes just like sugar!"

It does not, and I kept telling them that. They were insisting that my perceptions were wrong. That does a number on your head. Saccharin is bitter. I can tell the difference.

We had pitched battles at grandma's house three times a day. She ran the place like a prison -- three meals a day with salad, meat, two veggies and a roll. And all the females were expected to march around the kitchen (which isn't big enough for two people) and serve the food, and then scurry around rinsing dishes and loading the dishwasher and putting up leftovers, and all the men went in the den and watched football and were never asked to lift a finger. I complained about them not making the men do their share and mom's response was, "They're all too OLD to help". There were too many women in the kitchen. I would run into the den to escape and my mother would scream at me to come back to the kitchen to "help."

I used to eat pizza with everything on it, except pepperoni, in high school. I figured out that I should not eat it when it started coming back up an hour later. Probably the olives, bell peppers and tomatoes and sharks didn't agree with me. That was a big clue.

The little girl they profiled on the show would not eat a tomato. I can relate. I can't eat spicy food either. This girl's diet was a lot more restricted than mine. I wish they had mentioned allergies or at least tested the kid for them.

My mom cooked good high quality meat and didn't cook greens, so I got along a lot better on her cooking and I still use some of her recipes. I don't understand why everything in restaurants is so spicy nowadays. I had beef 'n' cheese nachos at Chili's once and insisted on NO peppers of any kind. I don't know what kind of spices they used but I was up all night burping and generally uncomfortable. I took three bites of some take out from P.F. Chang's and burped all night, at somebody else's house. I kept getting up at night and drinking milk, because i was still hungry. I don't know what was in that Chinese takeout.


I know too many people who are fat because their parents made them eat too much and "clean their plate" and thereby ignoring their body's signals. My folks, fortunately, did not make me sit at the table all night, or hit me if I didn't eat, or any of that abusive crap. However, I live in the house that was formerly my grandparents', and a lot of times in that same kitchen I can get real depressed remembering all the sexist oppression and the stupid fights over eating.

I never gave an inch because I won't eat something I don't like.

Going to see the grandparents was horrible. I wondered where all those nice, sweet grandmas were that I heard about, that other people had.

A website they mentioned:
www.pickyeatingadults.com



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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:22 PM
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1. Your childhood was a nightmare...
I am so sorry that your grandmother treated you so badly.

I sure hope that your life is a lot happier now...

Food allergies can sure as hell wreak havoc.


Recommended.

:hug:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:53 PM
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16. for those of us with irritable bowel syndrome, we can relate. anything
that isn't really plain and simple, I am sick for three days. I hug you, honey.

All the women in my family are awesome cooks. I'm not and not by choice. :(
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:31 PM
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2. What is it with the 60's and boiling foods until they are pulp?
My mother and all my relatives would do the same thing. Take a perfectly good vegetable (or meat) and boil it mercilessly until you could use a straw to consume it.

You might as well throw the food away and serve the broth it was cooked in. Probably had more nutrients.

I think I was 17 when i found out that green beans and broccoli were actually delicious when lightly blanched instead of liquefied for over an hour.
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EmilyKent Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:37 PM
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4. 'Steaming' did it for me.
I was so surprised. Good heavens these things actually have a taste!
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:36 PM
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3. I am so sorry your childhood was like that.
It looks like the food battles were a symptom of something deeper going on.

Your grandmother had some massively deep anger issues going, and it sounds like she wanted to make sure you went out into the world feeling just as much rage and bitterness as she did.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:46 PM
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5. That's terrible--no wonder the kitchen's depressing
That can be especially traumatic for a child. I'm glad you survived it all.

I was looking for a thread to do a "thread jack for a food discussion--Yay!"--but I guess this isn't it. :)

:hi:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:48 PM
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6. Wow, your Grandma was seriously fucked in the head.
:(
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:02 AM
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9. I think it was Southern cooking.
Grandma was from Northern Mississippi. She was an overachiever with a master's degree in home economics from Miss. A&M -- this for a woman born in 1898! Her brother, a pilot, was the first crop duster in the United States.

She had an overactive thyroid and thought that the rest of us were "lazy". We weren't lazy, we were just tired and had underactive thyroids. Autoimmune problems run in my family.

She was into marrying old men and making invalids out of them, and then saying "I can't do such and such, I have to take care of my invalid husband', being a martyr. The only husband I knew was the last one that she married in the early 1960s when I was a kid. I can't figure out the psychology of this, but Mom was nuts too and put Grandma on a pedestal -- maybe that was Stockholm syndrome. Beats me. Crazy Southern women I know about.

She outlived three husbands and they are all buried in a row next to her in the family plot.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

I did not have Chinese food until I was in college and dating a boy whose family owned a pizza joint. Dad refused to go to a Chinese place and I have no idea why.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:55 PM
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7. My father came of age during the Depression...
He would eat *anything* and like it, tongue, brain, kidneys, pigs feet, tripe, rutabaga, you name it..

There was no such thing as a "picky eater" in his world, if you didn't eat it for dinner you got it fried in bacon grease for breakfast the next day.

I recall listening to the radio a number of years ago and they had a call in program about what the most disgusting thing you ever ate was.. The winner had been the son of missionaries in the South Pacific somewhere, he ate raw shipworms, when they asked him why he ate them the guy said "all my friends were eating them".. My dad would have eaten them too and looked around for more..

People who lived through the Depression had a different attitude about food than those of us who never had that experience, they thought of any sort of food as a luxury.





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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 11:57 PM
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8. Wanna trade childhoods? Please??
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:01 PM
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19. That was my initial reaction too.
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 04:05 PM by lumberjack_jeff
But I'm not sure that the exclusive right to complain about ones childhood should go only to the person who had it worst.

If she finds it helpful to get it off her chest, that's great.

...but that doesn't change the fact that many kids have worse problems than lackluster cooks.

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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 09:56 PM
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29. Agreed
But the 'trauma' of being fed greens just seemed a little ... precious. Made me think of kids with no food, or who suffer daily violent abuse.
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:17 AM
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10. picky eater too. no cheese. no eggs. no squash yada yada yada
1 grandmother(maternal) only carrots good, other veggies frozen crap. cooking flavorless.
other grandma a REAL cook. luckily i got HER cooking genes. we got at least 2 fresh veggies. plus usually a tater and good meat. and tho she didn't force me to eat mushrooms, she cut them smaller + smaller, but i was always able to fish them out of the stroganoff.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:37 AM
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11. I was grown before I found out cheese was good.
Since it might be considered a little sour, I had to grow up some.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:54 PM
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17. I didn't eat a cheeseburger until high school, nor pizza either. I
was astounded that they tasted good.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:24 AM
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12. kick
Grandma was a damned control freak. A real ball buster.
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Suich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:51 AM
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13. Wow! Just wow!
Just watched it on the West coast. I've never heard of that in my life!

Sorry about the meals at your grandma's...sounds very traumatic for a kid.



:hug:
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 02:31 AM
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14. Like I said, other people learned to ignore their bodies and eat too much.
My first set of in-laws had a big feast at Thanksgiving and Passover.

I got one plate that was not completely full and ate it. Then they asked me if I was getting seconds and I said, "No", and they immediately started scowling at me for that. Then I said, "I am NOT going to get sick from eating too much". They continued scowling but at least I didn't make myself sick.

If you don't eat too much then I guess they think you don't love them.

The second mother-in-law was a gigantic tall fat redneck out of Nebraska. Biggest, fattest white woman I have ever seen. Knees the size of watermelons and six feet tall. Everything she cooked was greasy and spicy, so much so that I took one bite, ran to the sink for a drink of water, and chugged some water. She stared at me like I was crazy. I literally couldn't eat her cooking. Her son turned out to be a real paranoid narcissist who destroyed my health.

Boy did I know how to pick 'em.....:wtf: Me and my bad judgment.

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:08 PM
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15. How did you get the house that was your grandparents?
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:55 PM
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18. Inherited it from Mom, who got it from her mother.
Funky old Gothic Bungalow. A real "funhouse" because some of the floors slope. :D
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:17 PM
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21. Well, at least you got a house from these "awful" people
That should make up for some your abuse.

As someone who really was abused as a child, your tale just doesn't resonate with me. But everyone has their own version of hell. I suggest letting it go and enjoying your house. There are millions right now who have no house or food.
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:25 PM
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27. Yeah, whatever. Objection, irrelevant and immaterial.


:shrug:


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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 09:58 PM
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30. Thank you.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:12 PM
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20. My parents told me I went through a period where
I would eat only mashed potatoes, orange juice and milk. I always threw out the baloney and other sandwiches that were my lunch and ate only the apple and a carton of milk. I grew up healthy in spite of it. Somewhere before puberty, I started eating meat like hamburgers and veggies like salads.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:17 PM
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22. There is a syndrome that picky eating --
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 04:21 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
can be a symptom of. Forgot the name, but it involves lesser ability to filter/process input around sound/tastes/texture/feel. With it noises are REALLY noisey, smells or food can be REALLY offputing, certain clothes can be torture to wear. I had/have that and I canm relate to the picky eating thing. My Mom was a terrible force-feeder but Nana was "let her eat what she wants" -- I pretty much survived on PB&J sandwiches made by her for years at a time. :D

Found it -- it is Sensory Integration Dysfunction

http://www.sensory-processing-disorder.com/sensory-integration-dysfunction-symptoms.html
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:00 PM
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25. I think I have real sensitive taste buds & smell.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:23 PM
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23. My grandma had a drawer full of cookies and candy
and during our weekly visit, there were NO limits on what we could eat from that drawer. It was kid paradise - we got crazy wired on sugar. I sure loved my grandma and I miss her.

The other grandma cooked like yours - boiled everything. No seasoning. Boiled celery seems to be burned in my memory.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:31 PM
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24. My brother was picky and I wasn't
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 04:32 PM by ProudToBeBlueInRhody
It's not always a "the way the family is run" thing. My mother made up a very wide variety of foods that I loved and my brother wouldn't and still won't eat.

For example, he likes roast beef, steak and sirloin tips, but not pot roast or beef stew.

He also took mustard sandwiches to school.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:23 PM
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26. Thank you for posting this.
Food bullies abound here.
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 08:31 PM
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28. After I saw the other thread on this topic, I started reading about supertasters....
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 08:39 PM by Lisa0825
I am NOT a picky eater (I love to try new foods), but I have some very specific likes and dislikes, and a lot of them matched up with the supertaster concept... I hate coffee and green tea. I really don't like many veggies at all, and have tried to force myself to learn to like them. I cannot STAND sweet wine, and wine that others don't think is swet at all seems overwhelmingly sweet to me. Tonic water tastes unbelievably bitter to me!!!

Interesting stuff.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:43 PM
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32. Wow and I thought the food my mom served sucked!
Grilled cheese sandwiches pressed flat to about 1/2 inch

Scrambled eggs cooked dry and with a brown crust on them

Her idea of a quick spaghetti meal was a can of tomato soup poured over cooked spaghetti

Yummy dinners of baked beans and dried up baked fish sticks hard enough to pound nails with


Anyway, I noticed where you said you can't eat spicy foods. I can't either. My mouth is too sensitive. Other people will eat stuff and pronounce it "not that spicy"...I eat it and I'm almost in tears because my entire mouth is on fire. I mean, actual pain.

And there are other foods like walnuts, frozen waffles, scallops (which I LOVE), baked beans (I like them now) that make my tongue burn and the only thing that stops the burn is milk. Citrus fruits leave painful little sores on my tongue.

I try not to be fussy about food, but there are some things that are just painful to eat. :cry:



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