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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:19 PM
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Denim jeans, not invented here?
http://www.thehistoryblog.com/archives/7679


One thing we know for sure is denim was a working class fabric. It was tough as hell and could be worn for years by people who rode them hard and, especially in the case of the Genoese sailors, put them away wet. Cowboys, railway workers, fishermen, beggars and lumberjacks didn’t often get their daily lives documented for the historical record, and while high-end textiles are sometimes carefully conserved over the centuries, jeans got worn until they fell apart.

That’s why the discovery of an anonymous Northern Italian painter who depicted poor people wearing denim in the mid to late 1600s is such a surprising find. The fact that he painted the poor going about their business is rare enough; the fact in all but one of his recently-discovered works they’re wearing clearly identifiable jeans skirts, trousers and jackets is unheard of. It has earned him a snazzy anachronistic moniker, too: the Master of Blue Jeans.





He doesn't look like a 49'r.


Very cool jacket kid.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:22 PM
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1. Omg. I thought *I* invented jeans skirts in 1974!
:)
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:27 PM
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2. I invented the denim hash pipe cozy in 1972.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:03 PM
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4. Ha! But *I* was the first to add calico inserts and quilting
a fashion felony which hopefully has a statute of limitations.



:rofl:
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:27 PM
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9. No, it is a stain you can never remove.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:42 PM
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15. Hah!! We all dressed "funny" back in the day
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 04:42 PM by SoCalDem
Somewhere out there is a picture of me wearing hip-hugger bell-bottom op-art pants with a target on the backside:) In purple, white & turquoise:)

and then I went through the patent leather hot-pants era:) (no photos of that, THANKFULLY)...(I hope!)
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:51 PM
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16. Here's a pic of me & my husband ( I was 5 months pregnant with our first)
summer 1973

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:35 PM
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18. At least you had the sense to hide your eyes for posterity.
:rofl:

Very nice picture, SoCalDem. Nice legs, too! :hi:

In my defense, that picture was taken on Christmas where we all had to wear the same bolt of fabric. lol
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:27 PM
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3. IIRC, Levi Strauss added the rivets.
--imm

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:10 PM
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5. This isn't an April Fool's prank by Wrangler, is it?
:rofl:

NGU.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:14 PM
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7. Is it? And I'm sitting here trying to figure out
what cloth I've read about in that period that would have selvages like that.

LOL
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:48 PM
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12. Only you would read about cloth.
:rofl:

:loveya: E!

NGU.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:49 PM
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13. I'm terminal, I know.
:rofl:

:loveya:
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:20 PM
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6. Freeper heads will explode when they find out denim was invented in FRANCE!
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:27 PM
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8. IIRC, it was called Bleu d'Travail...I don't think that anything was actually
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 03:44 PM by old mark
even invented in the USA - we just stole ideas from elsewhere and SAID we invented things so stupid people would feel proud to live in the land of riveted agricultural pants and large hats for nomadic livestock handlers (the hats were actually invented in Mexico).

mark

ADDED: FWIW, the airplane was also actually invented in France by this gentleman...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A9lix_du_Temple
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:29 PM
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10. Bourbon. The corn was too heavy to carry across the mountains.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 03:41 PM
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11. Now, see, that's what I told merh about San Francisco.
One time she very kindly sent me some great Cajun food and I was at a loss as to how to reciprocate. She said we must have something that was ours but mostly, we just mooched other people's talent.

lol
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thelordofhell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 04:01 PM
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14. Invented in Nimes, France......using serge techniques with cotton instead of silk
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 04:02 PM by thelordofhell
Originally called "Serge de Nimes"(fabric of Nimes) and later shortened to "Denim".
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:30 PM
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17. "Serge" is the fabric I had in mind because it shows up as a class marker
when describing women's clothes in novels. But I had no clue that the fiber could be cotton.
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