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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:53 AM
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Jesu, Scarborough & Buchanan making the claim now that 80% of the nation is conservative.
That there are only 20% of us who are liberal.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 05:54 AM
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1. Haha! You just have to laugh. I think they run out of stuff to
say and just keep talking to fill time. That's the only logical conclusion I can come up with.
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Tunkamerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:04 AM
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3. Or that they actually believe that.
Imagine the social circle they run in. I bet they think they're exaggerating the number of liberals. They extrapolate based on their experience.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:13 AM
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6. Then a lot of conservatives voted for the Dem in 08. Doesn't
make sense to me, but in their world, I suppose they justify that somehow.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:24 AM
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10. Joe and the bobbleheads ...
I can't last more than a few minutes before I cant' handle the urge to strangle the little rat ... Many years of social work, and this pukebag is the very definition of a control freak abusive father in relation to the people on the show with him ... He just simply bullies his way on everything there, with everyone passively bobbing their heads to appease him in fear of him ...

It is a disgusting show, seriously ...
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:03 AM
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2. yeah just saw that
:wtf: and to think about two days ago I was thinking, wow, Joe Scarborough is pretty reasonable for a republican!

Guess I can take that back now....
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:12 AM
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5. Well you could STILL say
"Joe Scarborough is pretty reasonable for a washed-up pol who STILL can't explain the dead staffer in his Congressional office".
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:06 AM
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4. It's possible...
I mean I'm a very liberal person for most things, but there are things I'm quite conservative about. I think the same can be said for nearly every person in the United States. Technically they're not 'lying' as much as omitting the facts.

The same claim can be made conversely. There are many conservatives who have liberal ideas. Unfortunately in their case they only apply those ideals to everyone else while they continue to live their lives of excess.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:15 AM
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7. The other thing is, a lot of people think that the word "conservative"
just means "sensible and more or less grown-up".

They use it as interchangeable with "centrist".

They don't associate the word "conservative" with the reactionary shit the modern GOP stands for now.

Which is why we should call them "right-wing extremists" instead of "conservatives"

(as in "The Top Ten Right-Wing Extremist Idiots").
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:40 AM
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21. I prefer to call these clowns neo-confederates
and I prefer calling myself a liberal in the truest sense of the word.
When I think of a conservative I think of canservation. Conservationists these clowns are not.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 12:14 PM
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26. Indeed, they are not.
Their right-wing extremist radicals.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:23 AM
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9. But this was Joe the Liar
He probably made it up.
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:44 AM
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17. Same here, I consider myself quite "progressive" and liberal in my thinking.
I am also "conservative" about some things as well. I consider myself a "Moderate".
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:22 AM
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8. That's when I turned that asshole off
I rarely last more than a few minutes with that show. Today the TV was turned to that channel when I got up. Before I had even gotten out of bed, I heard Joe say that and immediately turned the channel.

I have MSNBC on XM in my car and never listen in the morning. I do enjoy listening to Ed Schultz on my way home though and to KO and Rachel in the evenings when I am in the car. But Joe has got to go. He is an ass.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:24 AM
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11. 80% "conservative" because after Bush nobody has anything to
spend but the rich.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:26 AM
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12. Apparently there are seats in Congress that Dems hold now that they
"are not entitled to" according to the Joe and the Grand Wizard. Then Chuckie Todd joins to help make that fact in concrete. I didn't realize that any one party is "entitled" to any seat.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:30 AM
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13. My mornings are better since
we turned him off.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:30 AM
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14. Even if it is more like 30% the base can not elect a national candidate
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 06:31 AM by stray cat
They can only throw an election. Same goes for conservatives. Both sides need the moderates they despise
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:36 AM
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15. Well, then, we will surprise the shit out of them on November 2nd
when we win.

I wonder how Joe will spin THAT!!!


mark
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Harry Monroe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 06:43 AM
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16. Labels, Labels, Labels!! What bullshit!!
Most of America is in the middle and are relatively moderate in their thinking and beliefs. But it is the extremes on either end of the spectrum who make all the noise.
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MattyGroves Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:19 AM
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18. They said that 80% is either moderate or conservative
and they used the figure to counter-point an editorial that suggested that Obama would do better by going further left in his policies.

Whether only 20% of the country is self-ID'ed as liberal could be up for debate. But, poll after poll shows that the independent/moderate vote that gave Obama the presidency is jumping ship. As such, the idea expressed in the op-ed that he will win more people over by going further left to appeal to 20% of the public is laughable.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:29 AM
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19. I see msnbc's "Lean Forward" slogan really had an impact on Scumborough!
:eyes:

So glad my mornings have been Mourning Jerk free for about 2-1/2 years.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:37 AM
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20. i guess that 80% elected President Obama, eh joe?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:02 AM
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22. It depends on what the meaning of Conservative is.
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bherrera Donating Member (600 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:16 AM
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23. It depends on what liberal and conservative is
One could conceive of a division which sets "liberal" to be communist, and "conservative" to be everything else. In this case maybe 10 % of the US population is "liberal". Or one can move the definition a little more to the center, and say "socialist with communist tendency" and this may put 20 % of the population in the new definition of "liberal". Or one can say "conservartive" is "war mongering racist who thinks the US is meant to be an imperial ruler imposing the so called judeo christian values on the world" and this makes 25 % of the USA population conservative, and everything else is liberal.

Or one could say that the truth is different, and 20 % is extreme in one direction, 20 % is extreme in another direction, and the large majority think all the extremes are crazy and wishes they would be more pragmatic and willing to compromise. I am a socialist from Spain who is very willing to compromise, so I like capitalism with the proper regulation, and I don't like communism, it's obsolete.
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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:20 AM
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24. Watch Robin Meade
She doesn't editorialize and is way hotter.

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JamesA1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 08:20 AM
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25. Self Delete nt
Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 08:21 AM by JamesA1102
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