Klukie
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:46 AM
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There will always be people who don't want to pay |
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That is a fact of life. This doesn't mean that laws and taxes can't force them to pay into a system that provides a necessary service for the greater good. Socialized fire departments are a necessity to ensure proper/fair treatment for ALL!!!!!!!
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:47 AM
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1. that's only true if EVERYTHING is for sale.... |
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:48 AM
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3. Safety/Health should not be for sale. |
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:48 AM
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2. This is why public services have to be paid for via taxes and not optional fees. |
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To protect ALL of the community.
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Klukie
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:07 AM
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I agree. I don't give my sugar addicted child the option of a healthy dinner or a tasty candy bar. Why in the hell should these greedy folks be given the option of safety over cash? It doesn't work with the car insurance co.
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:49 AM
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4. The solution to this problem is absurdly simple |
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Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 09:54 AM by rocktivity
A county-wide fire or additional property tax that provides funding for the cities with fire protection services to provide them to the cities that don't.
:applause: rocktivity
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:51 AM
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:55 AM
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10. It really is that simple and I don't understand why the citizens don't do this. |
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:06 PM
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:50 AM
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5. And yes....I said the evil S word |
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:53 AM
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7. If they want to play the fee game then I say the guy up the road with the 2 million dollar house.. |
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should pay more for his fire service than I do. And the factory over there should pay ten times the amount. Really, people have gone nuts. If my neighbor does not pay the fire department and I do, I will live next to a burned out hull and possibly lose my home during his fire. The folks who want to privatize this...well more than likely they have more than the average person and I say, be prepared to pay way more than you do now.
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:16 AM
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The bigger the house...the more tax required....after all...it will take a lot more resources (manpower/Water) to put that baby out!!!!
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:17 AM
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21. I know, we could have municipalities assess the value of each property, and base the tax on that! |
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:20 AM
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We need to fight for better standards and not run everytime the dreaded T word comes into play!!
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:53 AM
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8. This is just my take... |
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In Red areas Republicans and Libertarians will vote out anyone who tries to make them pay taxes for a socialized fire department.
Hell, they don't even want socialized schools, etc.
They hate paying any kind of tax and don't seem to want to pay a fee for services either. They are NUTS!
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Klukie
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:03 AM
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12. Maybe the US ought to buy an island and they can all go there to fend for themselves |
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and leave the rest of us to go about a civilized society!!!
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:06 AM
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13. That just gave me a good chuckle. But can't they buy their |
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:09 AM
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17. hahahaha.....sure they can....better yet ....maybe they can build it with all their bootstraps!! |
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:54 AM
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9. it is when a whole county votes not to have that concept that creates crisis. nt |
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Wed Oct-06-10 09:57 AM
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11. It shouldn't be voted on... |
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:07 AM
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14. but it was voted on and implemented. they want self rule, the city democratic tax all protect all |
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should walk from county letting the fend for self.
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:27 AM
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23. Maybe the laws should be changed so that the counties can no longer decide. |
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We need to fight for fairness for all......including the libertarian geniuses that voted for this.
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:36 AM
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24. federal law? interesting. first time brought up, but interesting. nt |
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:08 AM
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16. It's interesting that the forced payment of taxes might be the only thing |
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that keeps us together as a nation.
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Wed Oct-06-10 12:23 PM
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25. Yeah ...especially when we are supposedly a christian nation |
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:09 AM
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18. There will also always be people who can't. There will always be people |
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from out of town who still need emergency services, even though they've never paid a tax or fee where they happen to be. And all must still be taken care of, public safety must still be ensured.
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:13 AM
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19. I want a system that covers everyone!!!! |
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