itsrobert
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:26 AM
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So the Grandson started two fires in three years |
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Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 10:30 AM by itsrobert
And the cover story he was burning trash this time around. For some reason the family was too occupied to save the animals in the home that was a good distance away. I wonder if they were destroying evidence? Meth Lab? Moonshine?
Sorry but two fires by the same person in 3 years raises a red flag to me. Nobody esle wondering? Or am the only sick bastard?
REF: Is the fire that the city department refuse to put out because the owner didn't pay for service.
Also of note, CORN was grown on the property. Corn? Moonshine?
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:27 AM
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1. Unrec because I don't know what news story you are referring to |
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How about a link, or a brief sentence introducing your topic for those of us who aren't glued to the TV or media Web sites?
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:29 AM
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2. oh my. The reference would be the story where the the homeowner didn't pay $75 |
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and the fire department refuse to put out the fire. The fire started by the grandson, who also started another fire 3 years earlier.
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:30 AM
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3. Thanks. I suspected that, but I haven't seen anything about any grandchildren. |
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:30 AM
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4. many times a child that is a fire starter has been sexually abused |
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not saying this is the case here. and not saying the house should have burned down.
I think fire fighters watching a house burn is like a Dr. watching a person die that he/she could have saved.
I do think the kid needs some help.
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:32 AM
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It should be looked into by authorities/investigators.
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:35 AM
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6. Budding sociopaths often start with small fires. |
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The kid of an acquaintance had something wrong with his head. Her other kids were just fine. But her youngest son began his career of crime with starting a fire in a trash bin under a neighbour's carport. The carport caught fire, but it got put out before it burned down the house. Later he started a fire in his family's house in the living room. Some damage was done but she arrived home just in time to put out the fire. She told me they had told the insurance company 'lightning' ignited the fire.
Then the kid started getting arrested for breaking and entering in houses in the neighbourhood. Then he moved on to doing and selling meth and robberies. He went to prison, got out and started it up again despite good people giving him chances to turn his life around. The 29 year old is in prison now for parole violations.
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Wed Oct-06-10 11:09 AM
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11. Yes, they're called "reefers" |
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:10 PM
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16. Gotta love thos old pulp covers. |
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:35 AM
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7. I would think that if the grandson was a fire starting problem and Cranick didn't want it revealed |
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Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 10:37 AM by rocktivity
the smartest "cover story" would be to pay the $75...
:crazy: rocktivity
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:07 PM
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The same was true of my friend's son. They tried to conceal it, as in lying to the insurance company, claiming lightning had started a fire in their living room. She told me about this, so I know it to be true.
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:41 AM
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HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP!!!!!!
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Wed Oct-06-10 10:46 AM
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He was making corn sugar to smuggle into our Pepsi.
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Wed Oct-06-10 11:04 AM
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10. The first fire was a chimney fire. The second was a trash fire got out of hand. I do not smell a rat |
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Wed Oct-06-10 11:14 AM
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12. Some serious stereotyping going on here. |
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Just because someone is growing corn, you conclude they are making moonshine? A burned down house means it must have been a meth lab? Oh, yeah, the victim lived in rural Tennessee, so he must have been a tweaker and a moonshiner....
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Wed Oct-06-10 11:24 AM
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13. What a horrible post. This kind of speculation is just showcasing your prejudices. |
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You have no idea what happened, apparently, and yet you conjure up meth labs and moonshine, and speculate that there's something fishy re not getting the animals out? And OMG, a rural family grew CORN? That's a smoking gun for sure! Jesus Christ, by your measure my 78 y.o. stepmother is suspect. Hell, I'M suspect. Don't do this. It's irresponsible and cruel.
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:08 PM
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15. What a bunch of conclusions you jump to without any evidence. |
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Simply because you want to hate?
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:30 PM
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17. Unrecommend. What a ridiculous shark jumping! |
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Grandson? Moonshine?
That absurd tale is more about what goes on inside your head than anything real.
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Wed Oct-06-10 05:01 PM
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22. Phantasmagoric is the word I'd use to describe where this OP has taken things. |
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Wed Oct-06-10 05:13 PM
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Kind of like accusing anyone who disagrees with your point of view of being a libertarian or teabagger!
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:42 PM
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18. The firemen went to the site of the fire. |
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That means they used up gasoline and paid the crew. Paid the crew to sit there and watch the thing burn. So what were they saving money on? Water?
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:47 PM
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20. the only reason they went there is the neighbor's field was on fire. |
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Wed Oct-06-10 05:23 PM
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25. Demoiselle, the firemen went on the call because the next door ... |
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neighbor was a suscriber. When the fire crossed the property line and threatened the neighbor's house, the fire dept. put it out.
They had one pumper and one tanker truck. If they had worked the non-subscriber's house first, they might not have had enough water to save the subscriber's place.
County commissioners have clearly stated that if you subscribe to the fire service...you get service. If you don't subscribe, you get NO service.
There are many threads that give all the rest of the story.
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Wed Oct-06-10 06:17 PM
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26. Oh. That makes it all right then. Good GOD! |
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:44 PM
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19. I wondered at the odds of 2 fires in one family by chance. But still possible. |
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Edited on Wed Oct-06-10 04:46 PM by KittyWampus
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Wed Oct-06-10 04:59 PM
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21. Out in the country people burn all kinds of things. |
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Heck, in my old place in suburbia we had a chimney fire, and a few months after the next door neighbor's garage blew up from varnish fumes in a closed container on a very hot day. Then my teenager, who was in his Dumb and Dumber phase, decided to see if a stick coated with something like WD-40 (it's been awhile) would burn and torched a patch of the grass by the side of the road. He was lucky it didn't grow. And he's a fine young man these days who isn't an arsonist or dumb.
When I was a kid one of the joys of going to my relatives' farm was that the kids had grown-up responsibilities and grown-up jobs, and they did sometimes get away from us. Imagine driving the tractor at ten, burning off a patch of weeds so it could be dug up, driving the old truck down the dirt roads, camping out and making bonfires in the cow pastures, smoking bees with little fires in bee smokers--we did all of that and more. Frankly, it was my idea of heaven, but I have some scars.
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Wed Oct-06-10 05:07 PM
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23. I wouldn't assume anything given what little facts you've |
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gathered.
The corn field that was on fire, was not the homeowners. Many people grow corn around here in NH, none of them make moonshine.
:shrug: It's sad to see you've gone there.
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