Hey Keith Olbermann! Do your job for all homeowners, not just one libertarian freeloader!

[Better Today]

While you're ranting for many segments over the past week about this stupid fire, look what you're missing. This is important to all of us, not just one libertarian jerk in TN. I guess you figure it's worse to lose your home to fire due than the thousands that are going to lose them because of Republicans economy and Congress' hatefulness toward the middle and lower class, and we'll see but it looks like Obama is once again going to screw us all.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6955YX20101006

A bill that homeowners advocates warn will make it more difficult to challenge improper foreclosure attempts by big mortgage processors is awaiting President Barack Obama's signature after it quietly zoomed through the Senate last week.

The bill, passed without public debate in a way that even surprised its main sponsor, Republican Representative Robert Aderholt, requires courts to accept as valid document notarizations made out of state, making it harder to challenge the authenticity of foreclosure and other legal documents.

The timing raised eyebrows, coming during a rising furor over improper affidavits and other filings in foreclosure actions by large mortgage processors such as GMAC, JPMorgan and Bank of America. (snip)

After languishing for months in the Senate Judiciary Committee, the bill passed the Senate with lightning speed and with hardly any public awareness of the bill's existence on September 27, the day before the Senate recessed for midterm election campaign.

The bill's approval involved invocation of a special procedure. Democratic Senator Robert Casey, shepherding last-minute legislation on behalf of the Senate leadership, had the bill taken away from the Senate Judiciary committee, which hadn't acted on it.

The full Senate then immediately passed the bill without debate, by unanimous consent.

Keith you're being sucked into minor distractions while really important stuff is going down. Pull your head out of your ass and get a segment or a dozen segments on this, k?

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Actually this minor distraction is a damn symptom

here you go

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9267852&mesg_id=9267852

[Better Today]

2. Yeah, well I'm willing to bet big money that more by 100s of 1000s will lose

their houses to foreclosure before even 10 are lost to fire wherein the FD stands by and does nothing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. And I am willing to bet that Keith has also covered foreclosures

Mostly because HE HAS.

[Better Today]

5. This wouldn't be covering foreclosures, but a specific new bill that will screw

100s of 1000s of homeowners.

[Better Believe It]

4. So Senate Democrats led and organized this attack on homeowners.

Who said Democrats can't get anything done in the Senate?

[Better Today]

7. Disgusting, isn't it?

[Better Believe It]

10. See. They can overcome Republican "filibusters" when they push Republican legislation!

So if Obama signs this reactionary right-wing bill will anyone who objects be accused of nit picking or whining?

[Bluenorthwest]

6. How do you know that man is a Libertarian?

Is it a psychic thing?
Keith has covered the foreclosure stories.

[Better Today]

8. Not this new bill he hasn't and it's a pretty big deal to say that banks don't

have to follow the rules (again) and yet everyone else does.

[Bluenorthwest]

11. And that is how you know that farmer is a libertarian?

I see.

[Better Today]

12. I'm ignoring that part of your remark to keep the focus on this bill.

Which I believe is the whole point to the title of the OP. Have fun discussing that other thing in the 100s of fire related threads.

[AlabamaLibrul]

37. When your title states "libertarian freeloader", that indicates to most people you wish to focus on

it, at least a bit, and it also indicates that you have some reason to believe the man is just a "libertarian freeloader".

[Bluenorthwest]

41. So you are assuming and when asked you avoid

Your framing of the issue is the point, just as much as the bill you are using as a bit of rhetoric. If this was about the bill, why use all those unsupported editorial words about the farmer? You made this post about him with your adjectives, you rang that bell. And you can not back up your claims.
I have no responisbility to read other threads. You make assertions here. Back them up or retract them like anyone would do. Just offer cites or back off the false premise. Easy as pie.
Or just keep avoiding and snitting and slandering.

[proud2BlibKansan]

9. Good grief

Keep circling those wagons.

[Riley18]

13. Amazing how fast the Democrats can get things done when they want to.

I watch Keith pretty consistently, and I can only recall one segment where he interviewed a working class family losing their home. I really don't think the foreclosures are heavily covered on television.

How will we know when the President signs it? It isn't like it will make the headlines or anything.

[Better Believe It]

14. Obama doesn't have to sign it and won't if he supports people who are fighting foreclosures.

[Better Today]

16. Well, since his fed guy is the one demanding that banks hurry up with

their foreclosures, I don't have much hope. Plus I have to say, I haven't seen Obama be on the side of the middle or lower class yet, again, little hope. I've looked for the OP wherein I read that the fed wants the foreclosures quickened but I can't find it yet. I'm still looking.

[Better Today]

15. Huh, over the past few days, I've seen quite a number of segments on the

fire guy at Countdown. Maybe only one that was a direct interview, but many that were regarding the topic as a whole.

I don't know how we'll know. But it is so discouraging to see this type of crap from Democrats, Presidential or Congressional. It should have been stopped in the House and never gotten to the Senate. I think that shocks me the most. What was Pelosi thinking?

[Better Believe It]

18. Pelosi knew exactly what she was doing when she pushed this bill. She's not stupid!

[Better Today]

19. I suppose so, but to date, I'd thought she was on "our" side.

Yeah I know she hasn't been perfect, but I sure didn't expect this.

[Better Believe It]

28. Well, we are learning who is really on our side in Congress. We've learned a lot in the past few

years.

[SargeUNN]

17. well here we go again

I just refer you to the OP's post here so far and just determine the value of their post based on what you find. Also I am wondering where the OP got the political standing of this man since they didn't post how they know the man is a libertarian, or anything else political. I think it would be nice to back it up with something called proof. Thanks

[Better Today]

20. It's a reuters article, I didn't add anything except my opinion. Do you have

anything to say about the article or are you just following me because you love me so much?

[SargeUNN]

22. I love you so much

and you have such a wonderful disposition, however I saw nothing that says he is a libertarian and yet you claim it so please show me where you get that claim.

[Bluenorthwest]

42. I also asked for the OP to back up those assertions

I was told he was ignoring that question. That it was answered elsewhere. The OP is making accusations based on the appearance and address of the farmer. It is that simple.

[HughMoran]

21. Unrec

:eyes:

[Irishonly]

23. Very Strange

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3808

Seems they didn't record the votes. The house did a voice vote and BTW, it passed in April The bill passed the senate with unanimous consent.

[Better Today]

24. Yes it passed the house in April, but not the Senate till just before the break.

Ain't it amazing that they can't get together to support tax breaks for the middle class, but they can get together to screw the middle and lower class out of their rights to force banks to follow the rules.

[Irishonly]

25. It sure is

The way it looks is that even if President Obama vetoes it, there wouldn't be a problem over riding it. I am really scratching my head over this one.

[Better Today]

26. Oh, lordy, I hadn't thought it out that far, but of course you're correct.

[Better Believe It]

27. Obama can veto it and call for a recorded vote in the House and Senate, if he is on our side.

That's the least we should expect from President Obama.

[HuckleB]

29. And this will make 68 fire threads that I've put on Hide in GD.

:shrug:

[JonLP24]

30. This may have been shown before

but where is a link indicating the homeowner is a Libertarian?

If there isn't, are they suggesting he is because he lives in a county that wanted the Libertarian policy? If so I say to that, I live in Russell Pearce's district but I'm not a racist like he is and did not like SB 1070 at all.

[depakid]

31. "Passed without public debate" -and the Democrats wonder why they're in trouble with the electorate

Shit like this makes it tough to root for these folks.

[Waiting For Everyman]

32. This is important, it's a planned bank coverup of their crimes

Attempting to make the laws they've broken legal after the fact. How outrageous is that?!!

And just a time when massive fraud via forged documents is being uncovered against them. If this passes, it is an absolute treason against the homeowners of this country, and against our system of laws itself. This is black-letter law we're talking about the banks violating - basic stuff, foundational stuff.

I agree, Keith and all sane commentators need to be all over this. I watch this subject, and I hadn't even heard about this. Thank you, Better Today!

[Waiting For Everyman]

33. OMG! (Dem) PATRICK LEAHY DID THIS!!!!!! On page two...

Senate staffers familiar with the judiciary committee's actions said the latest one passed by the House seemed destined for the same fate. But shortly before the Senate's recess, Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy pressed to have the bill rushed through the special procedure, after Leahy "constituents" called him and pressed for passage.

The staffers said they didn't know who these constituents were or if anyone representing the mortgage industry or other interests had pressed for the bill to go through.

These staffers said that, in an unusual display of bipartisanship, Senator Jeff Sessions, the committee's senior Republican, also helped to engineer the Senate's unanimous consent for the bill.

Neither Leahy's nor Session's offices responded to requests for comment Wednesday.

[treestar]

34. Recognizing notarization from other states?

That's a major issue?

[Waiting For Everyman]

39. Ohio's Sec. of State thinks its a major issue -

She's asking people to contact Obama immediately to stop it.

http://stopforeclosurefraud.com/2010/10/06/please-tell-president-obama-not-to-sign-the-interstate-recognition-of-notarizations-act/

Think about a car's title you might buy some day. Think about illegal aliens or terrorists getting papers. Think about identity theft. Think about swindles of all kinds from A to Z.

Criminals big and small will have a field day.

All they need is one state to make its notary requrements ludicrously low, and all states would have to give it full legal weight. I can just see the Robo-signing Mills' offices being set up in Alabama (for instance) and then all the states would have to accept that lowest common denominator.

And gee, then after a while the actual forgeries could even be done in India or somewhere. Prolly for about 10 cents a document.

[treestar]

44. So that would mean people get to move into the house, eventually

stop making payments, and get to stay there, merely to prevent electronic notarization?

And we really need more proof it is so horrid before we condemn it. I'm not sure how it works, so I'm not willing to jump to the conclusion it's totally fraudulent. And if so, don't borrow from those banks.

Obviously some people have gotten a chance to stay without paying because of this issue. This whole outrage is about keeping a technicality, which would not be tolerated if it were on the other side of things.

People need to quit signing all that crap without understanding it.

[Waiting For Everyman]

35. Kick

Zero recs? Really? WTF?

[Mimosa]

36. This is only a million times more important. n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

38. I am sure that the GOP---which advocates for pay fire protection---applauds this thread.

They do not want Americans to know what will happen when they get their way and all public safety is privatized.

[Waiting For Everyman]

40. Please everyone Tweet the OP article and put it on Face Book for others to help spread

Also this alert from Ohio's Sec of State Jennifer Brenner:
Please tell President Obama NOT to sign the Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act

http://stopforeclosurefraud.com/2010/10/06/please-tell-president-obama-not-to-sign-the-interstate-recognition-of-notarizations-act/

She gives links to the White House contact info at the end. At least there's ONE official publicly against this so far. I'll bet others aren't aware because of campaigning. We need more officials to pay attention to this and get on the media opposing it.



We can't let this just pass into law without any notice of it by the public. If this gets enacted, don't expect any prosecutions for this economic disaster - ever. This is them hiding the evidence that was just brought to light last week. It won't ever happen. At the very same time that the news story of the phoney document scandal was breaking they were passing this atrocity in secret. What a nerve!

If this doesn't make you furious, then you are a sheeple.

[truebrit71]

43. Wow...I am almost speechless...

...those fucking whores...:grr:

[cynatnite]

45. This mafia protection system is what the repukes want...

No taxes. Pay protection. If you don't pay, you lose.

Rock on, Olbermann. :yourock: