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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:36 AM
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Top Evangelical David Barton: Maybe Government Should 'Regulate Homosexuality'
David Barton, an evangelical and social conservative well known for his somewhat revisionist history and appearances on Glenn Beck's show, yesterday took the opportunity on his radio show to ask that age-old question: "Why don't we regulate homosexuality?"

Barton was talking about the government's involvement in the health of the American people: "We have a Department of Health and Human Services; we have health care bills; we have health insurance and we're trying to stop all unhealthy things so we're going after transfats and we're going after transparency in labeling to make sure we get all the healthy stuff in there."

He continued:

So if I got to the Centers for Disease Control and I'm concerned about health, I find some interesting stats there and this should tell me something about health.

Homosexual/bi-sexual individuals are seven times more likely to contemplate or commit suicide. Oooh, that doesn't sound very healthy.

Homosexuals die decades earlier than heterosexuals. That doesn't sound healthy.

Nearly one-half of practicing homosexuals admit to 500 or more sex partners and nearly one-third admit to a thousand or more sex partners in a lifetime.


So, he concluded: "I mean, you go through all this stuff, sounds to me like that's not very healthy. Why don't we regulate homosexuality?"

Full transcript and audio here.

Barton, as we've reported, is president of WallBuilders, a group that pushes a Christian-themed interpretation of American history. He appeared as an "expert" witness in the Texas Board of Education textbook hearings. He is a frequent guest on Glenn Beck's program, and was even one of the "professors" at Beck University, Glenn Beck's online university, where he talked about the influence of clergy members in the writing of the Declaration of Independence.

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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:39 AM
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1. Wouldn't that would mess it all up, just like what happened to slavery?
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:39 AM
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2. Maybe the stress of being constantly bullied and looked down upon has
something to do with the high suicide levels.

Jerk! Where's your Christian compassion?!
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:40 AM
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3. Maybe the gov't should regulate wimgnut loonies.nt
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:42 AM
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4. Maybe Christianity should be regulated. Jesus died
in his early thirties. That doesn't sound all that healthy.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:42 AM
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5. maybe the government should regulate evangelicals
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:46 AM
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8. Yes. Removing their tax-exempt status if they insist
on asserting their political views in the public arena would be a good first step.

Their impulse toward censorship has always been especially obnoxious.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:42 AM
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6. it makes me sick that idiots like this asshole make a living off of their stupidity
and the stupidity of the American people.

honestly. it's shameful that this nation has enough idiots to support someone like him.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:44 AM
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7. Oh So Now He Wants Goverment Participation
As long as it's for other people's lives
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:53 AM
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9. You mean, like, if a homosexual couple wants to spend their life together
they should have to go to a county clerk's office and get an official certificate?
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Dash87 Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:53 AM
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10. So, when will we see him in the news for a scandal-affair?
Judging by the past happenings of these homophobic fire-brand preachers. Is homophobia really anything other than self-hatred (of possible homosexual tendencies, that they've wrongfully been led to believe by a conservative society, are wrong)? A healthier society would encourage homosexuals to embrace their feelings openly and happily, not try to repress them. :)

Is he trying to convince others that homosexuality is bad, or is he trying to convince himself?

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Neurotica Donating Member (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:06 AM
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11. Barton is one of the main Christian Reconstructionists
Christian Reconstructionists don't want just a Christian-themed interpretation of American history, they also want a land governed by the Old Testament rather than the Constitution.
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noel711 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:22 AM
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12. Barton is a fraud... like all the rest of them.
Earlier this week I recieved a letter from the "Pennsylvania Association of Pastors."
What?
I've been a pastor in Pennsylvania almost 20 years, and never heard of that 'club.'

This letter was a 'come -on,' an inquiry, an invitation to a fund raiser
because they were 'privileged to invited the esteemed Rev. David Barton to
speak to our organization about the power of the pulpit to set things right.'

Oh my.

David Barton is no 'REv.'.. as the only degree he ever attained was a bachelor's
degree in education from a fundamentalist institution.
His only career was teaching in a tiny fundy elementary school.
Some time later he was given an honorary degree in history from a..
you guessed it.. a fundy college.
The man has no bona fides, no higher education, no actual scholarship,
he did no heavy lifting studying philosphy, no higher languages,
no research, no street cred, no self-examination, no therapy to seek his
own soul, and the needs of the broken world.

David Barton is a fraud, a poseur, a wolf in sheep's clothing,
a liar, and a predator, preying on those fears of the most
vulnerable: those who have little to defend them.

And now he's out and about for the 'cause' parading his particular brand
of idiocy. But he's got a following, and as we know from the fairy tale,
the emperor has no clothes, but that's never stopped a parade.

In our present climate, the accolades for idiots keep raising the stakes.
The uninformed won't listen to reason, but only hunger for the kind of
pablum that suits their craving for racist revenge... for the world changing.
What we are experiencing now is the expected reaction to the election of
a black man, a position of power that is suddenly defiled in their eyes,
and they want the almighty, or however they draw "HIM" to come down
and destroy the abomination. This is not news. But they won't prevail.

I don't know how my name got on their mailing list.
I do not belong to any such associations, nor any fundy groups.

I belong to that particular minority: progressive feminist clergy,
who are accustomed to crap and insults.

But the David Bartons, and the Christine O'Donnells and Sarah Palins,
and all the village idiots who are having their moment in the sun
are simply road kill in the path of progressive change for the good.
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:37 AM
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13. Barton is a certifiable liar
he re-writes history to further the Christian Dominionist theories.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:39 AM
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14. I am really much more in favor of regulating media so lies like this
can't be spread as truth.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 08:48 AM
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15. I found these two "statements" interesting
"Homosexuals die decades earlier than heterosexuals. That doesn't sound healthy.


Nearly one-half of practicing homosexuals admit to 500 or more sex partners and nearly one-third admit to a thousand or more sex partners in a lifetime."



One right after the other like that...


So...homosexuals die decades sooner than heterosexuals but somehow manage to squeeze 500 to 1000 sex partners into their shortened lifetimes...

Assuming they become sexually active at, oh, 16 or so, what's that, one sex partner every five minutes?




Where do these assholes come up with this shit. :eyes:


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