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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:19 PM
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So, we finally get to hear from the far recesses of the Republican peanut gallery...
Edited on Sun May-20-07 01:22 PM by KzooDem
I just crafted this rather longwinded Viewpoint column for submittal to my local newspaper. They frequently print my Viewpoints unedited, so I'm hoping this one gets printed as well. I might add that I always run them by my fellow DUers for ideas, edits, etc. and I beleive that is what helps make them stronger columns. So, please feel free to suggest any edits, point out any errors/inacuracies, etc... Thanks!

So finally we get to hear from the far recesses of the Republican peanut gallery.

No sooner had Jerry Falwell’s body been embalmed and laid out on the same catafalque upon which Ronald Reagan’s remains rested in repose, none other than twice-divorced and admitted adulterer and probable GOP presidential contender Newt Gingrich swooped down upon Liberty University’s commencement ceremonies like an opportunistic vulture. There, he pandered for potential votes from the newly minted batch of conservative Christian Evangelicals who believe our government is, and always has been, based on their brand of religious idealism.

“A growing culture of radical secularism declares that the nation cannot profess the truths on which it was founded,” Gingrich said.

I don’t know which history books Gingrich has read, but if I were him I’d be asking for my money back. What he and Falwell’s single-minded followers fail to comprehend is that this nation was not founded on the premise that our system of government and its laws be derived from Christian scripture.

“In hostility to American history, the radical secularists insist that religious belief is inherently divisive and that public debate can only proceed on secular terms,” Gingrich droned on.

Newt Gingrich and I agree on one thing: there is certainly hostility to American history when it comes to discourse on separation of religion and government. That hostility, however, comes from the likes of the late Jerry Falwell and pretenders to the now-vacant throne of Grand Poobah of Evangelicalism, James Dobson, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, and from their respective flocks of the Evangelical faithful.

Anyone who cares to study the history of our nation in more than a cursory, thirty-second sound byte fashion will learn that the author of the Declaration of Independence and third U.S. president Thomas Jefferson held with great disdain the notion that government and religion should be intertwined.

“The clergy, by getting themselves established by law and ingrafted into the machine of government, have been a very formidable engine against the civil and religious rights of man,” Jefferson wrote in 1800.

Later, in an 1813 letter to Alexander von Humboldt, Jefferson gave a more pointed indication as to his views of mixing religion with government. He wrote: “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”

Still, like so many broken records, those who wish to co-opt political power as a means for advancing their religious zealotry seem to continue to insist that this country was “founded on Christian principles.” If Christianity was intended to hold sway over the governing principles of our country, isn’t it curious that George Washington’s biographers describe a man seemingly singularly detached from Christianity?

In his book ‘George Washington: The Making of An American Symbol,’ historian Barry Schwartz writes: "George Washington's practice of Christianity was limited and superficial because he was not himself a Christian... He repeatedly declined the church's sacraments. Never did he take communion, and when his wife, Martha, did, he waited for her outside the sanctuary... Even on his deathbed, Washington asked for no ritual, uttered no prayer to Christ, and expressed no wish to be attended by His representative."

In 1796 John Adams, American founding father and our nation’s second president, in drafting the preamble to the Treaty of Tripoli, wrote: “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion…”

If today’s Christian conservatives insist the founders were pious Christian men and meant for Christian dogma to play an influential role in our governance, why were clergymen complaining half a century after our country’s birth that no president up to that date had been a Christian? In an October 1831 sermon reported in the newspapers of the day, Episcopal minister Bird Wilson of Albany, New York, said: "Among all our presidents from Washington downward, not one was a professor of religion…"

If holding dear the ideals of our founding fathers gets me branded as a radical secularist by those ignorant and obtuse enough to thumb their noses at the essential fundamentals on which our nation was founded, then it is with great pride that I accept that moniker.

Many who read this Viewpoint will likely peg me as an atheist or hater of Christianity. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Rather, I believe this country has fared far worse since certain fundamentalist sects have exerted their power on our country’s government. In exasperation, I turned to history to educate myself on what our founders had in mind for our nation, and it is certainly not the fragmented mess in which we currently find ourself mired – a mess, I might add, created by leaders who have sold their souls to religious zealots.

So, if right-wing Evangelical Christians wish to return our nation to the ideals of our founders, I say “bring it on,” because their principles were ones of enlightened reason, tolerance, and free thought. Truth be told, the early architects of our country are likely turning in their graves over the way conservative Republicans have not only allowed the roots of religious extremism to manipulate their way into our political heritage, but have also fertilized and encouraged them to grow in exchange for political gain in the form of votes. Talk about filthy lucre.

Nobody sought to blur the line between religion and government more than Falwell, Liberty University’s founder. Hand in hand with Ronald Reagan, who allowed him a complicit entrée, Falwell hijacked the GOP and gave religious fundamentalism a dangerous foothold in American politics. Is it any wonder that the most corrupt administration our country has ever had the misfortune to be saddled with is represented by the party that traded its principles to the Falwells, Dobsons and Robertsons of the world for votes? Is it any wonder those lines are more blurred now than they ever have been?

Our founding fathers knew what type of insanity would ensue if we allowed our founding principles to be auctioned off to the highest bidder in the name of religion. It’s unfortunate that Mr. Gingrich chose to perpetuate the politico-religious myths of the religious right instead of challenging them with truth and facts. Instead, it looks as if the old guard of the GOP machinery is still intent on offering control to religious radicals in exchange for votes. This should serve as a stern warning to Americans of any political persuasion.

Lest we let recent history repeat itself in 2008, any free thinking voter should heed the words penned by one of this country’s most-beloved founders, Benjamin Franklin: “When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself so that its professors are obliged to call for the help of the civil power, 'tis a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one."













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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:21 PM
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1. Superb. I share your sentiments.
Edited on Sun May-20-07 01:23 PM by BrklynLiberal
Radical Religionists, as opposed to radical secularists(Newt Gingrich's term)throughout history, have been the ones who have been behind the genocides, the holocausts, the Crusades, the Inquisitions, the witch-burnings and auto-de-fes, and the destruction of entire civilizations.

Those who feel their god is the right god seem to be all to willing to murder and torture anyone who does not share their beliefs.

I have had a difficult time finding atrocities that can be attributed the radical secularists.
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shenmue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:22 PM
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2. How does Newt ****in' Gingrich have the right to bloviate about *anything*?
He couldn't be more hypocritical if he tried. :grr: He needs to just go away.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 01:33 PM
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30. And so it goes on ...
The slate of Sunday talk shows, as usual, leans left ... I turned onto MTP, slighty surprised to see Dodd being interviewed by Pig Russert ... Only to see him cut back to Gingrich ...

THAT is the MSM, a stand alone "conservative" or some piece of garbage scumbag like Gingrich as the "counterbalance" to a democrat ...
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:22 PM
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3. Well crafted
and airtight.

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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:25 PM
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4. Well stated and R'd
Newt is an evil opportunist..a shallow selfish asshole to boot.

What ever good comes from this dude....?

All he ever did was counter productive and self serving....he belongs in the abyss
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:30 PM
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5. Good one for the Gazette.
I wish we could get it over here in the Enquirer. We need more reasoned thinking on the opinion pages here.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:39 PM
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9. Hey there, knitter....how's it going?
Good to see you around!
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:43 PM
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10. It's going fine, pretty much.
It's good to see you around, too. :) I liked your essay. I wrote a ltte against the crazy right-wing Christians that actually got published, and so far, no one's written against it (which is unusual--we have a few guys who always attack anything any liberals write for the paper). I really like yours, though. I'm thinking of e-mailing it to a right-wing friend of mine. :)
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:45 PM
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11. Be my guest, please do!
Check your email, btw. :-)
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knitter4democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 07:54 PM
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19. Thanks!
Yeah, he's a piece of work--a history major who ignores major facets of history and actually tries to argue that the Native Americans got a decent deal. No, I'm not kidding. :eyes:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:31 PM
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6. Well Done !!! - K & R !!!
:kick::yourock::kick:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:32 PM
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7. Very well done indeed.
You should submit it to papers in cities elsewhere, too. It's good enough to be printed widely.

:thumbsup:

("sound bite" instead of "sound byte"?)
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Phredicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:36 PM
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8. Excellent column.
:applause:
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:48 PM
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12. Oooops
Edited on Sun May-20-07 01:52 PM by wryter2000
That bit from the Treaty of Tripoli was written by Joel Barlow. Adams was President at the time.

Editted to add my praise for an excellent column.

BTW, the idea that our laws are based on the Ten Commandments is pure hooey. Only killing and stealing are against the law. Bearing false witness is only illegal if done under oath. We have no laws about keeping the sabbath holy or honoring our parents or covetting or any of the other stuff.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:49 PM
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13. See...this is why I vet these things past my fellow DUers...
Ya'll are such a scholarly, smart crowd. Thanks for the catch!
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:53 PM
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14. You should probably google it to be sure
I went to a high school named after Joel Barlow.

I believe the treaty was ratified unanimously by the Congress, as well.
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 01:57 PM
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15. Will do...
I knew about congress unanimously ratifying the treaty without so much as a "harrumph" over the not-founded-on-Christianity language, but believe it or not this is the shortened, edited version of my Viewpoint - I HAD to cut some stuff, lol! :-)
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 03:11 PM
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16. You are exactly right, re: Barlow!
Thanks again for the catch!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 04:52 PM
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17. kickeroo. . . . n/t
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TheCentepedeShoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 05:32 PM
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18. Excellent !
Gingrich gives me the serious creeps, even more than Romney. I don't think it's any coinkydink that Insannity, Eye of Newt and What-happens-in-Vegas-doesn't-always-stay-in-Vegas-Bennett have jumped on the godwagon. Sumptin's up or else I have my tinfoil twisted too tight.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 10:01 PM
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21. Excellent, +1 !
Gingrich also gives me the creeps. He gives me the creeps worse than any potential presidential hopefull.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-20-07 08:51 PM
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20. NOT longwinded at all. Very well done.
From time to time on DU I recommend that something posted be submitted to BuzzFlash. Your letter, your essay, deserves to be seen by BuzzFlash readers, also.

I think (not sure) their e-mail is buzz@buzzflash.com and I encourage you to submit this, with the hope that they will feature it as a reader contribution rather than just printing it in their mailbag section.

You really hit it out of the ballpark.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 06:31 AM
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22. Most excellent ...
and makes me proud I once lived in Kzoo. Still have family in the area and only one is a rwinger.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 06:39 AM
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23. K&R n/t
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:18 AM
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24. Gingrich is confusing the early puritans with the founding fathers
I am re-reading a book on Anne Hutchinson about the early days of the Massachussetts colony and it opens the eyes to how very controlling those puritans were regarding their flock.

If you didn't worship properly, if you didn't accept your role in life, or if you had an opinion that their elders didn't like, you were put on trial.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:18 AM
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25. A most excellent essay...K&R n/t
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 08:55 AM
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26. Great...let us know if published, OK? nt
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 10:20 AM
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27. I would use "sound bite", not "sound byte"
When I first saw it I thought it was a mistake instead of simply an alternative spelling.

Other than that, fantastic!
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 11:14 AM
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28. Sad to think how little progress we've made on keeping our government
free of religious influence. 200 years later and the forces of faith seem to be gaining in their forced institutionalization of their untestable beliefs upon all Americans. We really need to push back on the Constitutions clear intent to keep our government free of all religious influence.
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 11:27 AM
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29. Excellent!
I wish the whole nation could read this.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 01:40 PM
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31. Most excellent! n/t
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-21-07 01:42 PM
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32. Saw this too late to recommend. Bummer-it really deserves it. nm
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