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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:21 PM
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Does your dislike of Republicans sometimes turn to hatred?
I have to admit that mine does at times. When I calm down, the hatred leaves me, but I have to behonest and admit that it is there sometimes.

Be honest. Do you never hate?
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:22 PM
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1. Yes! n/t
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:23 PM
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2. Yes. I will admit when I hear someon is a republican i instantly dislike them.
When I see republicans on the neews I get a blind rage.

I hate them. I really do. The racist bastards.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:23 PM
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3. Aint no time to hate.
Barely time to wait.
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:25 PM
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4. Meg Whitman.
Used to sell on ebay. She is using my money to try to enslave me. Hate, that's the word.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:27 PM
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9. I'm just telling you what works for me, or what I aspire to.
I find "hate" counter-productive. If nothing else, it is something of an impediment to clear-headed action.

But, as always, YMMV.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:58 PM
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28. I'm no robot. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:28 PM
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46. That's a relief.
Or something.
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enough Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:25 PM
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5. When that happens, I leave the computer and go outside and stay out. (nt)
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Polly Hennessey Donating Member (274 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:26 PM
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6. Republicans
No, but total disgust. I can not understand how some can vote on emotion and low information or just falling for the latest Repub sound bite. I wish people would take the time to find out what the facts and the truth are. Most of all, I am having a difficult time understanding how some Republicans care so little for most Americans and only what they can gain dollar wise.

I guess I sound like a PollyAnna. Maybe there was a reason my mom named me Polly - mothers are so smart.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:27 PM
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7. Not really.
I figure most are either ignorant and confused, or (extremely rarely) they are directly benefiting from the republican policies. Most of them aren't wealthy enough to gain from republican policies, though.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:27 PM
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8. Only certain ones...
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 03:27 PM by Dappleganger
who started wars, lied to Congress and approved the torture of other human beings.

The rest just make me nauseous.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:27 PM
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10. I know several Republicans that I love and/or respect...
Some are Goldwater Republicans, and I can live with that easily enough. Some are TeaBaggers (GOTP) but they are family, and I love them unconditionally. One is my boss, and other than the Pubbie weirdness, he's one of the nicest, most intelligent people I know.

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:29 PM
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11. repubs? Yes, I dislike them. But also some Dems, mainly because they should know better
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:32 PM
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12. befuddlement ...
I am at a complete loss to explain it ...

I do have VERY strong negative feelings toward 99% of the Washington elected Rs, and the profiteers who make a mint spinning their crape ...

But, I know and am friends with more Rs than Ds, and I can say I know countless REALLY good people who are Rs, and it is a complete mystery to me how really smart, really kind and decent people fall into line in that party ...

I just do not get it ...
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:34 PM
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13. I actively hate all elected Republicans and a lot of elected Democrats too.
There is no "sometimes" about it. I hate those motherfuckers because they hate me. I have no problem with hatred directed toward the right people.
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:35 PM
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14. My hatred for republicans occasionally eases to intense dislike.
But then I see one of them talking and I come back to my senses.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:36 PM
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15. i used to be disgusted, now i try to be amused...
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 03:41 PM by maxsolomon
i hate the following:

1. george w. bush
2. dick cheney
3. GOP propagandists
4. GOP politicians
5. GOP money men

basically, i hate narcissists. i don't hate the republican masses, as some of them are my relatives. i regard them as gullible, deluded pawns with feudal mentalities - they think like serfs.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:36 PM
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16. Anyone Who Does Not Hate Republicans, Ma'am, Is Not Paying Attention
Or else harbors a deep hatred for the United States....
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:15 PM
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58. My 85 year old mother is a Republican, Sir, and while I disagree with her ...
I most assuredly do not hate her. And I can guarantee you that I am paying attention.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:26 AM
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72. Quoting Scripture, Sir, Can Be Fun, As Well As Apt....
"For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household. He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me."
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 03:39 PM
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94. Hell, Sir, I didn't know you were a Fundamentalist Christian. As one who respects all beliefs ...
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 04:35 PM by 11 Bravo
I pray I have not offended you.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:37 PM
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17. Sometimes?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:37 PM
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Sometimes?
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:19 PM
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60. Dude, I know you were gone for a while, but trust me, your post count is still high.
(Fuck me with a pitchfork, but I can't pass up a shot at cheap snark, even at the expense of one of my favotite DUers.)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:22 AM
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77. Argh!
Just got home from work and checked "My DU"...and damn if my one-word snark reply didn't breed.

...and earn me a zing in the process.

;)

:toast:
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:37 PM
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18. Sometimes?
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:39 PM
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19. the more you hate republicans, the easier is is for your own party to play you and sell you out
From Animal Farm, by George Orwell, written in 1945

below is a perfect example of what i'm talking about

(Jones was the farmer ousted by the animals, who now run the farm, for 'themselves' (pigs?))

The mystery of where the milk went to was soon cleared up. It was mixed
every day into the pigs' mash. The early apples were now ripening, and the
grass of the orchard was littered with windfalls. The animals had assumed
as a matter of course that these would be shared out equally; one day,
however, the order went forth that all the windfalls were to be collected
and brought to the harness-room for the use of the pigs. At this some of
the other animals murmured, but it was no use. All the pigs were in full
agreement on this point, even Snowball and Napoleon. Squealer was sent to
make the necessary explanations to the others.

"Comrades!" he cried. "You do not imagine, I hope, that we pigs are doing
this in a spirit of selfishness and privilege? Many of us actually dislike
milk and apples. I dislike them myself. Our sole object in taking these
things is to preserve our health. Milk and apples (this has been proved by
Science, comrades) contain substances absolutely necessary to the
well-being of a pig. We pigs are brainworkers. The whole management and
organisation of this farm depend on us. Day and night we are watching over
your welfare. It is for YOUR sake that we drink that milk and eat those
apples. Do you know what would happen if we pigs failed in our duty? Jones
would come back! Yes, Jones would come back! Surely, comrades," cried
Squealer almost pleadingly, skipping from side to side and whisking his
tail, "surely there is no one among you who wants to see Jones come back?"

Now if there was one thing that the animals were completely certain of, it
was that they did not want Jones back. When it was put to them in this
light, they had no more to say. The importance of keeping the pigs in good
health was all too obvious. So it was agreed without further argument that
the milk and the windfall apples (and also the main crop of apples when
they ripened) should be reserved for the pigs alone.

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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:55 PM
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26. I was out in radio wasteland years ago, and heard Christian talk radio
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 04:04 PM by independent_voter
and the discussion was about whether christians were being played by the Republican party

the view was that republicans talked a good game on social issues and abortion etc, but on the issues that affected their daily lives, they were being sold out to corporations, that you cant have a stay at home mom, or any 'family life' when both parents are working 60 hours a week - that in reality the republicans arent family friendly at all (on the flip side, what good is gay marriage if both of you lose your jobs to free trade and cant afford a wedding? - it's the same thing - or if you have to work so many hours you're to tired to do anything? no slaves are free)

if fundamentalist christians are smart enough to realized they're being played and sold out, why cant 'sophisticated' democrats see the same thing?

BOTH parties have sold out their base on free trade, outsourcing, guest workers (h-1b visa) etc, and keep people who actually AGREE on a lot of things divided by superstitions about an imaginary donkey and elephant
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Towlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:42 PM
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20. The Good (us), the Bad (Republican leaders), and the Stupid (Fox News fans).
There are rich, shrewd, greedy, and unscrupulous Republicans who lead the party and who deserve to be hated, and then there are the Republicans who listen to Beck and Limbaugh, and believe everything they hear. It's certainly okay to hate someone for being evil, but it's really not right to hate someone for being stupid. People are born that way and it's not their fault.

I'm proud that I hate the Republican leaders and their propaganda ministers, but I'm not so proud that I hate the naive and gullible people who follow them.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:44 PM
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21. Hatred accomplishes nothing ...
and it's a poison.

Dislike is an easier and far less damaging emotion to live with.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:57 PM
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27. Well, I wish I could just "dislike" them...
But I don't dislike them. I hate them. They're constantly trying to destroy other people. I don't think there's a place for mere "dislike" here and I think that alot of people aren't truthful about the way they really feel.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:23 PM
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62. I learned a long time ago not to hate ...
it clouds your vision just as anger hinders your ability to win a fight.

Some quick quotes on hate...

I have decided to stick with love. Hate is too great a burden to bear. ~Martin Luther King, Jr.

The price of hating other human beings is loving oneself less. ~Eldridge Cleaver, Soul on Ice, 1968

You lose a lot of time, hating people. ~Marian Anderson

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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:46 PM
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22. Yes. Often. nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:46 PM
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23. I don't dislike anyone based solely on their party affiliation
I judge people on how they treat others, and how they treat animals.
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kjackson227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:46 PM
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24. I have to try REALLY, REALLY HARD not to hate these people...
so I try to counter-act these feelings by becoming pro-active.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:01 PM
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32. I'm pro-active.
It makes me hate them more.
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:52 PM
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25. All the time. I usually have a smoldering rage
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 03:52 PM by IndianaJoe
going 24/7. Really. How can you not hate them?
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 03:59 PM
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29. Not since the 2000 selection of GWB. I've hated them continuously since.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:01 PM
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30. I think that's when the cultural split happened.
Republicans came to a point where they could show us what they really were. In their book, hatred of others is OK, so what goes around comes around.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:20 AM
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99. No, my dislike of Republicans began with Nixon
But fully matured into hatred with Reagan.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:19 AM
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98. Bingo!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:01 PM
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31. No, not sometimes. I would say that it is almost constant hatred.
To be honest, I never never hate, and I often sometimes hate. ;-)
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:01 PM
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33. You say that like it's a bad thing... n/t
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:04 PM
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34. Yes... some more than others.
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sfwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:07 PM
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35. Yes, if they are wrong, the result is death and depravation...
...if I am wrong, the result is higher prices.

The constant casual disregard for the consequences and reality threaten me.

I have been directly threatened by conservatives for holding different views.

I have had my friends shot at by conservatives and have to have a mental action plan in case of a shooting every Sunday because of these nutbags.

Conservatives argue from ignorance and then cite that as a virtue.

Conservatives are anti-science. Last week I heard one say, "I don't want to pay for any government studies. That just leads to more science!" She got a standing ovation.

Conservatives hate cooperation in any form. Last week one said, "All grants are theft either at the point of a gun through taxes or through the coercion of your PROGRESSIVE tax policies."

Hate is a harsh word, but I struggle to simply endure them. Being actively NASTY generally gets a reflection in kind.
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:13 PM
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36. I once asked a therapist to help me deal with the hatred...
She said she couldn't help me because she felt the same way. Now, I don't expect a therapist to act like a priest or a spiritual person who doesn't approve of hatred in any form, but you have to admit that if a therapist can't help you because they also hate Republicans, there has to be something to it.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:17 PM
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37. I asked a therapist to help me overcome a hatred of one person and it worked
because i ended up hating the therapist even more

(joke)
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 11:10 AM
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101. I think I'd just have to admit that I had a terrible therapist.
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independent_voter Donating Member (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:20 PM
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38. Democrat hatred of Replicans makes them appear blind to the Democrats own flaws to people who see
serious problems with both parties
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IndianaJoe Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:36 PM
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49. Well, I hate Lieberman, Nelson, Lincoln and Landrieu too
So my rage isn't totally one-sided.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:21 PM
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39. I don't hate the Republicans, I just disrespect them. nt
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:22 PM
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40. Contempt mostly
I think the Republican I've come the closest to hating is Cheney since his lies cost so many lives. I'm sort of beyond comtempt for him.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:37 PM
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41. No.
That would be like hating a dog for being a dog.
I expect Republicans to behave like Republicans.

Now, when Democrats behave like Republicans.....
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 04:45 PM
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42. No. It is pretty much stuck on that.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:05 PM
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43. nah...i gave up really hating people
at my age it takes to much energy to hate people...i just ignore the dumb fucks.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:17 PM
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44. Nope. I know many
decent republicans.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:42 PM
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51. So do I...
more decent than quite a few Democrats I know, also.

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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:27 PM
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45. Hatred is where I get started.
Where it goes from there really can't be described by any combination of words in the English language.

Suffice it to say that if there really was a Devil, a Satan, a Prince of Darkness, a fallen angel bent on nothing but evil...

I'd still rate him as several steps above any current American "conservative".
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:31 PM
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47. Yes ... which is why I will vote straight Dem any day of the week.
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 05:32 PM by JoePhilly
The GOP has gone totally f**king nuts!

Sure, the Dems in Congress are COWARDS, and they roll over and play dead on a regular basis ... but I'd rather have the dog who rolls over and plays dead from time to time, over the rabid dog that would rip out my spleen and eat it in front of my face while I die.

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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:33 PM
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48. Sometimes? Naw, Always
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:40 PM
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50. Someone else said it upthread and I agree...
I don't automatically dislike someone based on his or her party affiliation.


It just doesn't make sense.

Disliking someone because he or she is a Republican is just as silly as liking someone because he or she is a Democrat.

As we all know, someone's being a Democrat doesn't automatically make him or her a moral, compassionate, likable person.

Just like being a Republican doesn't make someone a vile and disgusting piece of shit.


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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:13 PM
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57. Being a republican means voting to take away the social safety net,
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 06:14 PM by FiveGoodMen
consumer safety, jobs, health care, etc.

And it means supporting the killing of civilians all over the world just to feel big and important.

How in the world doesn't that make someone a vile and disgusting piece of shit?

(It IS true, these days, that being a Democrat doesn't automatically make one moral, compassionate, or likable)
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 09:03 PM
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69. I suppose it never occurred to anyone...
that not ALL Republican politicians stand for those things.


Just like not all Democrats stand for Truth, Justice, and The American Way.


Anyone who thinks being a Democrat makes them morally better than anyone else is kidding him/herself.


As much as I vote Democrat myself, I know that Democrats are NOT a bunch of Mother Teresas. And Republicans are not automatically spawns of Satan.



Someone upthread said his/her 85 year old mom is a Republican. You want to go up and tell this person that his/her mom is a vile and disgusting piece of shit?


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Phentex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 02:35 PM
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93. I feel the same...
I think I know Republicans who are just misguided or plain fearful of being called a Democrat. The ones I can't figure out are the ones who agree with the Dems on most every issue but just can't bring themselves to identify as Dems. It's frustrating!

I have met plenty of Republicans who support certain issues and not others. It's not one size fits all. Although I tend to vote that way, lol.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 11:51 AM
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102. I get the frustration...
a male relative has some pretty liberal views on a number of things, yet, like you said, for some reason has trouble identifying himself as a Democrat.

It's like this whole weird contradiction thing that I can't figure out...

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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:16 AM
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79. Vile is a good word...nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:46 PM
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52. Not Republicans as much as the Chamber of Commerce, other shadow groups and Faux News
They are the real enemy IMO. Republicans would be nothing without the media and the right-wing corporations and other organizations who support them.
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 05:47 PM
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53. absolutely
it's difficult for me to be civil with them
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:04 PM
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54. Always
and I can't envision that changing anytime soon.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:07 PM
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55. Yes,Yes,Yes,Yes,
sometimes I be hating on those repugs. especially the teabagging kind.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:10 PM
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56. Oh I hate anybody who works for a paycheck and votes republican. I
Edited on Thu Oct-07-10 06:25 PM by B Calm
can't deal with stupid people! Why in hell would working people vote for politicans that want to raise the social security retirement age to 70 and give tax cuts to the filthy rich bastards that sent our manufacturing jobs overseas??????
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:17 PM
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59. They hate us... I Hate them right back!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:20 PM
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61. I wish they would all just disappear.
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:25 PM
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63. TURN to hatred?
No. That's the way I always feel about them.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:28 PM
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64. At first I thought, "yes, sometimes it does"
And actually, maybe that's still my answer, but for not as many people as I reflexively thought "yes" about. Just a few--the ringleaders who know they do evil and don't care.

For 99.9% of them, the people who don't do much worse than watch Fox, look nasty at Tea Party rallies, and vote Republican, it's either contempt (for the ones who are Republican because they're selfish and uncompassionate) or pity (for the ones who don't realize they are being manipulated by their overlords who care only about their vote and not them). Or a mixture of pity and contempt. I do try not to feel hatred for anybody. Sometimes it's hard.
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Liberal_Stalwart71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:32 PM
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65. Sometimes??!?!?!...
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 06:36 PM
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66. I have some friends that are republicans, granted they're not
crazy social conservative republicans, but they're republicans. We don't talk about politics.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:52 PM
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67. It's more like a complete lack of respect.....
The hypocrisy, the lies....

Take the Tea Party (please!). All their arguments boil down to not wanting to pay taxes, or feel any community responsibility.

Take RW Christians: Mostly they're scared and have personal problems they aren't handling well. They embrace an authoritarian belief system for the security of having an answer for every question, and a community which secretly (or not so secretly) tells them they are superior to the rest of us.

Take Ditto-heads: Most are not terribly successful white men afraid their only sense of self-esteem is fading away.

You get the idea.
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oswaldactedalone Donating Member (284 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 07:58 PM
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68. It is pure unadultered hatred
for these ignorant greedy racists. I have absolutely no respect for anyone who identifies as a Rethug. I'll take their money in my place of business then give them the finger on their way out the door.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 09:07 PM
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70.  I try to avoid them when things get to my 'hate' point
Oh, I'm sure I can hate with the best of them. But I do try to keep hateful feelings at bay. For instance, I refuse to engage any news story, clip or watch a discussion about that Westboro church group.
I know where it will lead and I don't like feeling that way, though I know I have every right to.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-07-10 09:08 PM
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71. Sometimes?
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:44 AM
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73. Yes. They make is so easy, and enjoyable. nt
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:58 AM
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74. I have this tiny white pill I take
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:58 AM by complain jane
just before I have to deal with something like conversation with a conservative. Bottle says "Ativan".
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:32 AM
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75. For the first time yesterday, I hung up on some Republicans.
I've been doing some phonebanking for an incumbent state senator hoping to keep her seat and the list of phone numbers we get are a mixture of Democrats, Repubs and Independents. Whenever I was unlucky enough to get a Republican, they'd insist on telling me everything they hated about Democrats. I finally lost it and starting cutting them off with "Have a nice day" and hanging up on them. I just can't do this shit anymore. I'll be going to a visibility event this morning, probably standing across the street from a bunch of Republicans. God help me.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:22 AM
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76. You should ask them if they like the republican ideas of raising
social security retirement age to 70 and cutting the taxes for the rich bastards that sent our manufacturing jobs overseas before hanging up!
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:36 AM
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78. Id love to ask them alot of questions, like...
"What do you like about having our jobs shipped overseas"? The problem is, they don't let me get a word in edgewise. And what are you doing up at this hour?
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trayfoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:18 AM
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80. Yes!
And......I "hate" that reTHUGs have caused this to happen with their hateful and stupid perspectives on "we, the people".
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:46 AM
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81. at one point earlier in my life, yes. but since then it's mostly pity.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 08:48 AM by NuttyFluffers
basically for me, hate takes a lot of energy. and at some point, since i have so little power over so many distant madnesses, it was not worth the emotional cost. better to make things better nearby, where i have more power to change things.

but it is human and normal to have real anger, even righteous fury, when beautiful things you love are threatened. friends, family, community, nation, culture, knowledge, humanity on a universal scale, etc. -- all of these things can inspire love, devotion, and a selfless willingness to endure sacrifice. and all these things can also inspire the inverse when such core love's are threatened, abused, or destroyed. it is not a failing to be human, or to have such an intense level of disapproval to assaults upon those you adore.

the trick is knowing when to hold your raging level of disapproval in check before it is unleashed unjustly -- and when to unleash it before what you love is destroyed unjustly. how you register your disapproval is what matters.

there is a time for love, there is a time for hate, there is a time for peace, there is a time for war... never fault yourself for feeling and being human. it is OK.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:56 AM
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82. Question is, does your hatred of Republicans ever soften..
into mere strong dislike?
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:59 AM
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83. More like extreme disgust
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 09:00 AM by ecstatic
Hatred takes too much energy (it's why I don't bother with Fox News, etc. anymore). It's just not worth getting riled up over.
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:33 AM
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84. Yep, more often than not...
These assholes are fucking up society, and they need to go live on the fucking moon.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:39 AM
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85. I have a colleague who is an old style Republican
And he is pretty damned liberal about his views. We discuss the political arena of today and he's furious at his party being driven over the edge. While I'm tempted to ask him who he will be voting for (he DID vote for Obama FYI) - I'm just grateful that there is one person I know who has stuck to his guns and can discuss differences in opinions.

I wish we could clone him - I really do!
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zanana1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 02:30 PM
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92. Wow. I've never met one of those.
I can remember it being that way when I was a kid, but not as an adult. They've been getting more and more radical. I just wonder if there's an end to it or if it can get even worse. I realize that hatred solves nothing; it's not a rational feeling on my part, but it is the way I feel and just when I think I'm beginning to feel some compassion for them, they do something that throws cold water on that feeling.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:08 AM
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97. as both he and I are closing in on senior ages, I'm beginning to think he's a rarity
And also, this is a person who is not only educated, but also teaches at a college level in a *liberal* college. I'm pretty sure if I met some of his friends at that college they may very well also be old school republicans.

But I agree with you about the republicans for the most part -- the ones running the party and the ones who are actively turning their party into a fascist stronghold. I live in a red state, a supposedly *christian* state - and I've seen more hatred, bigotry, class warfare, etc -- here more than in *any* other state I've lived in. It's been tough raising a child to *not* think as they do.

This is probably why I cherish my friendship with the old school republican. He's a dying breed in this country. He really is.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:53 AM
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86. No. Hatred doesn't work when combating the ignorance and the negative
effects of ignorance.

Ignorant people constantly do irrational, illogical shit that negatively affects us all. Since it is pretty much impossible to hold productive debate with irrational, illogical people, the best way for me to make circumstances better as an individual and for the country as a whole is to find some way to neutralize the effects of the actions of the ignorant.

In my personal life, I try to avoid irrational people as much as possible because they waste my time and could cause me harm if I am around them when they do their irrational shit.

Politically, I have to work at neutralizing the effects of their irrationality by doing what I can to prevent irrational people from having power over me and negatively altering my circumstances.

It does irritate me that I have to my spend time dealing with the idiotic crap brought on by the actions of this group of ignorant misanthropic functional lunatics known as republicans, but it simply can't be avoided without the problem compounding, making me have to later suffer even greater consequences from the actions of irrational people. Republicans are kind of like selfish toddler bullies that never grow out of it.

When I think about it, parenting republicans is pretty much what we do as Democrats. We constantly have to keep them from making messes. We're always cleaning up their messes. We have to prevent them from harming themselves and others. We have to keep them out of the cookie jar, or they will take what we have saved up for a rainy day and spend it on goodies for themselves, and cause us to have to scrounge to pay our bills. We have to prevent them from going to the school yard and beating up smaller kids to take their lunch money so they can by goodies for themselves. Their egos are not sufficiently developed as to allow them a reasonable socially acceptable ethics and value system--if they don't get what they want, they'll lie and steal to get it. And so on.

So I try to channel the irritation and anger that republicans cause me into using the political process constructively to keep our republican children from harming themselves and others, and minimize the damage that they inevitably cause.

Parenting is the hardest job I've ever had. I love my kids, and am glad they've grown up to be happy, responsible people.

As for republicans, I don't hate them, but I really wish the little shits would fucking grow up so I could spend more of my free time doing the things I like.
:D
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:53 AM
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87. No. Hatred doesn't work when combating the ignorance and the negative
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 09:56 AM by Zorra
effects of ignorance.

Ignorant people constantly do irrational, illogical shit that negatively affects us all. Since it is pretty much impossible to hold productive debate with irrational, illogical people, the best way for me to make circumstances better as an individual and for the country as a whole is to find some way to neutralize the effects of the actions of the ignorant.

In my personal life, I try to avoid irrational people as much as possible because they waste my time and could cause me harm if I am around them when they do their irrational shit.

Politically, I have to work at neutralizing the effects of their irrationality by doing what I can to prevent irrational people from having power over me and negatively altering my circumstances.

It does irritate me that I have to my spend time dealing with the idiotic crap brought on by the actions of this group of ignorant misanthropic functional lunatics known as republicans, but it simply can't be avoided without the problem compounding, making me have to later suffer even greater consequences from the actions of these ignorant, irrational people. Republicans are kind of like selfish toddler bullies that never grow out of it.

When I think about it, parenting republicans is pretty much what we do as Democrats. We constantly have to keep them from making messes. We're always cleaning up their messes. We have to prevent them from harming themselves and others. We have to keep them out of the cookie jar, or they will take what we have saved up for a rainy day and spend it on goodies for themselves, and cause us to have to scrounge to pay our bills. We have to prevent them from going to the school yard and beating up smaller kids to take their lunch money so they can by goodies for themselves. Their egos are not sufficiently developed as to allow them a reasonable socially acceptable ethics and value system--if they don't get what they want, they'll lie and steal to get it. And so on.

So I try to channel the irritation and anger that republicans cause me into using the political process constructively to keep our republican children from harming themselves and others, and minimize the damage that they inevitably cause.

Parenting is the hardest job I've ever had. I love my kids, and am glad they've grown up to be happy, responsible people.

As for republicans, I don't hate them, but I really wish the little shits would fucking grow up so I could spend more of my free time doing the things I like.
:D
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:00 AM
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88. I see them and their ilk as a threat to be eradicated for the good of the tribe.
Sometimes their is hate but it isn't a prerequisite or needed to fuel my grim and relentless drive to stomp them and their failed philosophies into a discredited form of extinction.

I could give a crap who the zombies are personally. If they are actively supporting TeaPubliKlan policies then they are fanning the flames of great evils and are making the world shit be they friends and relatives or wealth power brokers.

If you love people then it would seem like you'd have to respect them enough to allow them to own their deliberate and willful actions and the natural outcomes of their beliefs.

No question there is no magic redemption in being a Democrat but being an active and supportive Republican makes it a stone cold lock that you are fighting tooth and nail against working and poor people worldwide, a willing accomplice to dismantling our rights, and a determined oppressor of minorities.

Consistent outcomes are what they are. Loving Dad, Aunt Trudie, cousin Malcolm, or Bob from the old neighborhood is not a license to suspend sanity.

Its not okay if my high school buddy chops you into little pieces and it is just as unacceptable (and worse in my view) for yours to willfully scuttle the country or blow up thousands of innocent brown folks to steal their resources for multinationals or to allow the wealthy to run off with everything leaving the masses fighting to the death over crumbs so small a hungry mouse would miss them.


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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:10 AM
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89. No, I don't hate them.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 11:12 AM by Akoto
I live every day with widespread chronic pain, a lot of it caused by muscular tension, which is in turn promoted by stress. The experience has taught me that so many kinds of emotions and thoughts are physically detrimental, a waste of my time and well-being. They exacerbate my already painful situation by making me even more tense.

That aside, what is the point? Why hate? All hatred does is cloud your better judgment, and blind you to the fact that those on the other side are still people. I do not believe Republicans are 100% awful people, from the very first of them to the very last, nor do I think Democrats are 100% good. This Teabagger thing is a splinter, one which I think will self-destruct in due time. Then, we might at least get back to semi-civil discourse.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:13 AM
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90. No. It harms me more than they.
But I do get exasperated at their insistence on avoiding information so they can indulge in their fantasy view of the world.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:58 AM
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91. No, it doesn't.
I can't say that I NEVER "hate." I do my best not to, as I see hate as counter-productive, to say the least. I don't look for excuses to feel good about "hating," or for hate support groups to enable hating, or for groups that it's somehow "okay" to hate.

When I do feel "hate," it tends to be more personal. Those things I take personally tend to be things that I consider a betrayal. I'm more likely to "hate" a cheating friend or spouse than I am the asshole down the street; I'm more likely to "hate" a Democrat that betrays Democratic principles or acts like a Republican than I am the Republican, from whom those behaviors and attitudes are expected.

I'd rather not hate at all. I'm trying to evolve in that direction.
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crazyjoe Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:21 PM
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95. Anyone who wastes their time hating for a political belief is a loser,
and I feel sorry for them, and the people that have to deal with them on a daily basis. It's truly sad when my brother starts going off about republicans during a family dinner, or at a family gathering. While I agree with his views, it's embarrassing watching the faces of family members (who are all liberals) when he starts, they begin moving to the other side of the room, rolling their eyes. He absolutely hates republicans, conservatives, fox news, etc. and he makes an ass out of himself every time he starts into "hating".
Sorry to vent, but this thread really hits home with me.
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:24 PM
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96. Yes. They actually make me sick in the stomach.
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 09:32 PM by femmocrat
Just one syllable of Palin's screechy voice makes me want to pull all my hair out.

People who have such an effect on me physically must be avoided at all times. How can they even stand each other???

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 06:06 AM
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100. i have hated republicans since richard nixon.
and they have lived consistently up to my very low expectations of them.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:01 PM
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103. They make it very very hard not to hate. Let's say that. n/t
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