Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

FBI seizes John Lennon fingerprint card from auction house

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:13 AM
Original message
FBI seizes John Lennon fingerprint card from auction house
Source: Guardian

FBI seizes John Lennon fingerprint card from auction house
Late Beatle's application for US residence confiscated by authorities in 'raid' on New York memorabilia dealer
Sean Michaels guardian.co.uk, Friday 8 October 2010 10.08 BST

John Lennon's application for permanent US residence was seized by the FBI this week, in a "raid" on a New York auction house. The 1976 immigration document, which included Lennon's signature and fingerprints, was expected to sell for at least $100,000 (£62,621), according to the dealer.

"I don't know why it was so important that they had to have it back," Pete Siegel told Entertainment Weekly. Just a week ago, Siegel added a photograph of thecardboard form to the Gotta Have Rock and Roll auction catalogue. Within days, the FBI called and asked if they could "inspect the card". "We said, 'Sure, come in,'" Siegel said. Officials from both the FBI and the US department of homeland security appeared at the Manhattan gallery, citing a mysterious "ongoing investigation". Wednesday morning, they reappeared with a subpoena and seized the card.

"This really has nothing to do with John Lennon per se," FBI agent James Margolin told the BBC. "It has to do with a government document." The FBI claims that regardless of its provenance, the item is US government property. Siegel is unconvinced. "If it wasn't John Lennon's card, if it was anybody else's, I would never have heard from the authorities," he said. "The fact is, anything that has to do with the government and John Lennon, they believe shouldn't be in the public's hands."

The card was being auctioned on consignment, by an unnamed owner who allegedly bought it at a convention 20 years ago. Some have raised the possibility that the item was stolen: according to Lennon's former lawyer, Leon Wildes, some of the late Beatle's papers, including a fingerprint form, were stolen in 1976. Not long before, Lennon had been under investigation by the FBI for his anti-war activism.


Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/oct/08/fbi-seizes-john-lennon-card
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:23 AM
Response to Original message
1. "under investigation by the FBI for his anti-war activism"
Some things NEVER "change" :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:27 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Long as it was a totally legal investigation I
am not going to complain personally, its when the government does stuff like holds people for years without filing charges or wiretaps without a legal warrant that concerns me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. If the FBI spent less time on peaceniks and more on Al Qaeda, I'd feel my tax $ were not being throw
away on "protecting" us from people who oppose violence. So, yeah, I'll complain.

Besides, what constitutes a "legal" investigation is a target that seems to have moved fast and far since 911, with Democrats and Republicans, and, worse, by judges of all persuasions.

A nation begun with cries of "Give me liberty or give me death!" now shreds the constitution that generation bought with their lives and limbs everytime someone mumbles "national security."

Pitiful.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #3
9. I said
" I am not going to complain personally" I didnt say no one could or that you personally couldnt so sure if you wanna complain go for it, thats why we have the first amendment after all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:53 AM
Response to Original message
4. This is part of the government's cover-up of their secret army cloned from John Lennon's body.
:sarcasm:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:02 AM
Response to Reply #4
8. Oh noez! Zombie Beatles!
Frightening, but still not as bad as Zombie Ninjas.:scared:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:07 AM
Response to Original message
5. What a valuable use of government personnel.
:sarcasm:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:28 AM
Response to Original message
6. "Mr. Lennon, do you feel any antagonism toward the "

Reporter:
Mr. Lennon, do you feel any antagonism toward the people who have attempted to have you deported?

John Lennon:

"Absolutely not. I believe time wounds all heels."

Lennon's wit.....
from the movie

The US vs John Lennon

to be seen on google video

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=777046699234389996#
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:54 AM
Response to Original message
7. "if it was anybody else's, I would never have heard from the authorities,"
Duhhh... if it was anybody eles's (excluding a historical figure or celebrity), it wouldn't have been up for auction in the 1st place... let alone be valued for $100,000.

No conspiracy, cover-up or sweeping under the rug story here.

Just federal agents recovering government property/a public record that may (or may not), be stolen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 09:21 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC