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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:19 AM
Original message
Parents: Dying Girl, 7, Taunted by Neighbors in Trenton
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 09:20 AM by ScreamingMeemie
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/the_edge/dying-girl-taunted-by-neighbors-in-trenton

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Her family says 7-year-old Kathleen Edward is in the final stages of a degenerative brain disorder diagnosed as Huntington's Disease - the same disease which killed her mother, Laura, when she was only 24.

A neighbor who is feuding with the family admitted to posting grim depictions of Laura and Kathleen on Facebook, and also has a coffin hitched to a pick-up truck in front of the house - which the neighbor says is for a halloween decoration.

One photo depicts Laura in the arms of the grim reaper, while the other features Kathleen's face above a set of crossbones.

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Cruelty is an epidemic among all ages.


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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:20 AM
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1. You know, I think the human race is devolving, not evolving...
if true, those people are sick fuckers.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:21 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. Unfortunately it is true... I added the link that I forgot originally.
An even is being planned for her family and the invite reads: She has been tormented by sadistic neighbors. Please come and join us in showing Kathleen there are good people that care.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:34 AM
Response to Reply #1
12. "Are we not men?"
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #12
199. Looking at the crowd from the stage, that appears to be in a Coachella tent.
Loving it!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:11 AM
Response to Reply #1
60. I agree.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #1
70. My partner reminded me that we don't have executions in the street
drawing and quartering, burning to death, beheadings - which big crowds turned out to watch.

He reminded me of that when I was feeling pessimistic about humanity's progress. Thought I'd pass it on.

If you think about it, while there are some real fuckheads in the world, they're also being publicly criticized for being such fuckheads.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 02:38 AM
Response to Reply #70
226. /b/ 4chan has them in its sights
their lives are about to get very unpleasant.
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JackInGreen Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #226
246. Dude
RULE 1 man....come-on, bad enough out there, not HERE.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:07 PM
Response to Reply #1
77. I have to agree. There is an entire segment that is DEVOLVING>>>>
I believe that is where the bigots, the repukes and the teabaggers get their supporters.
Those are not necessarily mutually exclusive groups, of course.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #77
195. I blame TV programs like Beck. While Beck does not
make people do things, what he does is stir up the echos of the hate and violence that these type of Americans have in their psychic. It makes it seem as if it is OK to do the things the do. Like the guy taking those guns on a school ground and shooting kids. I do not understand and will never understand how a country as great as ours was could decline in decay so quickly. I thing the previous administration with it's me me ego turned the people on and they are now reacting to something they hate, a black president who happens to be a Democrat.
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Rozlee Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #195
209. What do you expect from a guy that vilifies a concept as noble as social justice?
I blame him and a whole lot of his brethren in the right wing echo chamber for the crassness our country has descended into. The right wing seems determined to expound for hours on the sad plight of all the poor billionaires that might lose their tax cuts, BP that might be "shaken down" and the evils of the sick and dying sucking us dry with their mouths on the Medicaid or public health funding tit. I don't know if Laura Edwards and her daughter have insurance, Medicaid or if they were on some other public medical assistance, but people like them rank pretty low on the totem pole of those whom Glenn Beck squeezes out his copious tears for. Jennifer Petrov's taunts don't seem politically motivated, but she still embodies the bullying of the weak and defenseless that's at the core of today's (and yesterday's) conservatism. Hey, don't collect money for the little girl--that might be an act of social justice.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #1
99. No, we're still evolving...
just to a new environment. Not that the old environment didn't make humans "sick fuckers" in various ways as well.
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:19 PM
Response to Reply #1
135. Yep. Everyday humans stoop to new levels.
I wish there was a hell so people like that could burn in it.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #1
139. Been saying that for a while now.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #1
179. in most species...
the stupid and weak are weeded out, couple this with the fact that the stupid procreate more and there you go.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #1
239. the industrial revolution screwed us all lol n/t
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 09:31 AM by iamthebandfanman
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:21 AM
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2. I don't even know how to classify that behavior
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. I see it as an extreme expression of the arrogance that comes from perceived anonymity
People say things on the Internet that they would never say in person.

It happens all the time, even here on DU Forums!
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:04 AM
Response to Reply #4
27. Helpfully, the names of the miscreants are in the comments--Page 2.
They also have children.

Unfortunately.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:37 AM
Response to Reply #27
49. Somoene in the comments also said that they have allegedly done this before.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 10:38 AM by AspenRose
Harrassed someone else.

(And we wonder where kids learn how to bully.)
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #27
147. Yes apparently the family feud started because the neighbor (who later died) didn't
invite that sick fuck's kids to her kid's birthday party quickly enough. The neighbor has been tormenting them ever since. Gee, I wonder why no one wants you or your kids around.

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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #147
187. That family should be shot with shit and killed for stnking. n/t
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:21 AM
Response to Reply #4
39. Oh no...You should watch the video
This woman is a #@%%t and proud of it..
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #39
54. She is why the word "twunt"
was coined.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 05:46 AM
Response to Reply #54
232. Interesting....and when will we see the word "twick" in currency
for all the "he" who are as as bad or worse?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #39
68. I can easily attribute her behavior to simple stupidity
She doesn't seem to understand the likely consequences of her actions.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #68
148. That's beyond stupidity. It's just plain mean. Who does that to a family with a mother
who has already died and a little girl who is about to die? No, stupidity doesn't cover it.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #68
189. I attribute it to simply being mean.
I attribute it to simply being mean. Otherwise, the the most intelligent would be the most kind, and I don't think that (all things being equal) is the case.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #4
161. She's doing it to someone who lives down the street.
That's hardly "anonymous", perceived or not.

You might as well blame it on baggy pants or video games, while you're at it. Some people are just assholes.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
154. karma
i will say no more.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #2
155. dupe
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 04:19 PM by shanti
self delete
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Billy Burnett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:22 AM
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5. The degenerative brain disorder belongs to the POS neighbor.
:sick:



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Dash87 Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:53 PM
Response to Reply #5
102. I was going to post the same thing, but then I realized
that there probably isn't much brain power going on for these disgusting people in the first place. :(

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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:25 AM
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6. Ah. Same thing when mentally impaired people get tormented.
I think its true that kind of thing gets worse on the internet just because people can be anonymous and can get away with more.

I dont't get it. I don't get what people get out of being homophobic either. But it sure happens all of the time.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:26 AM
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7. The fact that cruelty is such a popular sport, doesn't bode well for any of us. nt
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:31 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. And people wonder why I so often think our nation itself is dying.
Here's one of the reasons why.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:01 AM
Response to Reply #10
24. +1, sadly
As another poster said, I think this country is devolving.

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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:44 AM
Response to Reply #7
241. Boy is that the truth.
I just the new Newsweek about bullying. I cannot for the life of me understand why kids get such a kick out of tormenting someone else.

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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:28 AM
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8. Things like this just take your breath away. Huntington's Disease is
just so horrible, especially in its final stages. Neighbourhood support is what one should expect, this cruelty is unbelievable. Poor little Laura, I wish she and her family could be whisked away on a Kid's Wish holiday if she's feeling up to it and get away from these animals.

Sickening.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:40 AM
Response to Reply #8
51. Folks in the comments section are advocating for that
Trying to get in touch with Make-A-Wish, etc.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:42 AM
Response to Reply #51
53. Great, I hope they can make it happen. n/t
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:49 PM
Response to Reply #51
192. I couldn't edit my other post in time, I meant Kathleen. n/t,
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #8
146. +1000
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:29 AM
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9. i rec'd this because I see the same behavior in my "Christian" neighborhood.
especially with mentaly challenged or small-for-age children.They sicken me.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:32 AM
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11. I'm not sure of the legal definition of a "hate crime".




But this type of harrassment should not be overlooked.


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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:41 AM
Response to Reply #11
13. This makes me sick and sad
I can't say anything more. I am just floored.
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burnsei sensei Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #11
25. This is my impression also.
I am not a lawyer, but there is something about this behavior that is antisocial and even criminal.
It is
1. hurting the innocent (which the law should protect) and
2. it is also degrading the society (which civilization is meant to preserve and enrich).
Legal minds, look it over.

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66 dmhlt Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:19 AM
Response to Reply #11
36. Federal Hate Crime Criteria - from DOJ
These are the criteria of a Hate Crime from the Department of Justice. They are much tighter than most states' hate crime laws which tend not to include either actual acts or perceptions of a possible harm. (That's why Tyler Clementi's suicide at Rutgers may well generate a Hate Crime charge from New Jersey - but highly unlikely from federal authorities.)

Simple Assault: An unlawful physical attack by one person upon another where neither the offender displays a weapon, nor the victim suffers obvious severe or aggravated bodily injury involving apparent broken bones, loss of teeth, possible internal injury, severe laceration or loss of consciousness.

Intimidation: To unlawfully place another person in reasonable fear of bodily harm through the use of threatening words and/or other conduct, but without displaying a weapon or subjecting the victim to actual physical attack.

Destruction/Damage/Vandalism of Property (Except "Arson"): To willfully or maliciously destroy, damage, deface, or otherwise injure real or personal property without the consent of the owner or the person having custody or control of it.
(Emphasis added)


Source:
http://www.campussafetymagazine.com/Channel/University-Security/Articles/2010/09/Hate-Crime-Reporting-Requirements.aspx
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #36
52. Thank you.



Now I am more enlightened.


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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #36
59. I just read that Kim Worthy may be filing charges, no details though.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 11:13 AM by polly7
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000119833872&v=wall

An earlier message says she was to be contacted, so not sure if the filing charges is correct or not.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #11
118. You'd think a police officer could
at least come out and scare the POS woman...hell, she'd probably get mad and he'd have a good reason to arrest her. Maybe she already has outstanding tickets.
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Nordmadr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:44 AM
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14. Is there a job out there that lets you hurt people that hurt
children? I want that job. I have a baby girl now that fills my heart so much I can simply not explain it. My childhood was rough. How people can hurt children simply escapes my ability to understand and I have no empathy for those that do so. None.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #14
43. I wish there was --
I had a rough childhood too and I treat my daughter like the most precious gift in the world, because that's what she is. I wish everyone felt that way.

:hug:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:54 AM
Response to Reply #43
72. Most Precious Gift Indeed
Exasperating and hard work of course, but like all precious gifts they require love and patience to grow. And the love you make is equal to the love you take.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #72
73. Amen to that.
I'm not overly schmaltzy about this kind of stuff in general, but people who mistreat children just make my blood boil. Children are these innocent little creatures who show us all the best things human beings are capable of every day and it takes a sick mind to intentionally hurt one.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:46 AM
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15. ugh. just makes me ill.
You can fuck with me all you like.....mess with my kid? You'd better run.

These people are fucking sick.

rec'd.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:49 AM
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16. What the fucking fuck?
:mad:
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:49 AM
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17. Apprently the Petkovs have done this before
Vile trash, they sound like.

From the comments:

The eye of truth 8 hours ago

This is not the first time that Jennifer Lynn Petkov has done this. Another family that lived in the FoX 2 viewing knows this woman and was tormented repeatedly. When a person from this other family passed away, Jennifer Lynn Petkov's response was " GOOD IM GLAD, THAT PERSON NEEDED TO GO AWAY".
She even entrapped one of the deceased family members prior to his death in to accepting responsibility for the child she was in term with. Jennifer Lynn Petkov is still the same heartless person, It saddens me deeply that another family is being tormented by her sick and twisted mind.
I pray for Kathleen Edward and her family and i hope somehow they get the much needed peace and love they so much need.

Sick f**** who have kids themselves. Ugh.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #17
26. That's horrible; how sad for their own children. Awful as it is, I hope the Petkovs
mess up so much that their kids get removed before their minds are poisoned.

:cry:
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #26
47. So proud of her disgusting self in the vid and apparently now has hidden her FB page
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 10:46 AM by chatnoir
So they must be getting blowback for their vileness.

Good.


edited for typo
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:05 PM
Response to Reply #17
75. Sick indeed
She reminds me of my aunt (no relation--my uncle was my dad's brother)--never defined as mentally ill, but I believe she is, all the same. Many years ago, when I had an article published in the OpEd section of our local paper, I received a lot of letters (this was before e-mail so they were all snail mail). She sent an anonymous message, written in block letters, making fun of me, mostly what I had been like as a child. We traced it back to her because she mentioned things like the details of my parents' divorce that only a relative would know (and she was the only family member deranged enough to do something like that).

Still, people who are mentally ill like that shouldn't get a pass. They do, however, need serious help.
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chatnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #75
211. Wow, that's rather creepy
I'm so sorry you went thru that, with a family member no less. :(

Sometimes I wonder if there *is* any help for people with such blackness where their hearts should be.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:53 AM
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18. The utter cruelty that is happening these days in America is appalling.
This is where we definitely need a national dialogue on this issue. The stories regarding bullying are getting worse by the day. It's as if we're in a hell on earth. :(
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #18
19. I think there have always been some evil sick bastards walking among us....
but now in the age of instant and viral information, we hear about them all the time.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #19
121. Also, there is no shame
anymore....Shame started to decline w/ the Jerry Springer Show....now it's in free fall. No shame, no guilt....everyone becomes like W...a true psychopath. He set the example and the dumb americans follow suit. He was never wrong and never apologized....and he loved to destroy countries and people.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:22 AM
Response to Reply #18
40. I think this country is headed for a real crack up.
when I read stories like this one and other bullying cases, i see that Secret Ingredient missing from sociological or political explanations of historical episodes of mass persecution. Episodes of politically directed, mass persecution no doubt commence with isolated instances occurring spontaneously within a sickened society. Once people are ready to hound their neighbors to death, it's easy enough for them to accept instructions to do the same to total strangers.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:28 PM
Response to Reply #40
219. Along time ago, I sat in the Denver library and read just about
Every single Life Magazine that was published between 1925 and 1945.

And what got really creepy is that as the nineteen thirties became the late thirties, all these horrible murders were committed across Europe. A parent killing everyone in the family. Someone killing a dozen people in the neighborhood.

Almost as though humanity itself was falling apart into some sort of degenerative parody of what it should be.

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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:57 AM
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20. It's really a shame that we can't commission the Westboro Baptist church to protest
in front of Petkov's house.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:05 AM
Response to Reply #20
28. Why? She's perfect for their congregation. n/t
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:11 AM
Response to Reply #28
32. Up to her if she wants to join.
Of course if she did her Michigan neighbors would be free of her.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:58 AM
Response to Original message
21. What a horrendous waste of carbon are the Petkovs. These are the times I hope karma is real
even if I am ashamed of that very human feeling.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:59 AM
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22. This is such a tragic disease
my heart goes out to her family




as tragic as the disease affecting her tormentors

they are sick beyond redemption...
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Klukie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:00 AM
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23. WTF
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:08 AM
Response to Original message
29. That is why I wonder about post here
that attack the man whose house burned down and the FD watched. We have people here that I have wonder if they wouldn't blame the child's family. This is why I seriously wonder what DU is about. This story is horrible and shows a moral decay and post that blast the man who lost his house are equally sick. Why are we becoming so hateful?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:44 AM
Response to Reply #29
55. that is such a dishonest comparison sargel. you have spent your time purposely not listening to
or hearing what the other side says.

you continually misrepresent the situation

and then compare it to this

in your self righteous pose

highly offensive. but then, i bet that was your intent. hm.... internet anonymity?
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:11 AM
Response to Reply #55
61. nice try but you again assume things wrongly
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:10 PM by SargeUNN
First let's get it right on the fire victim, the punishment was cruel and beyond reason, and he and the community paid well beyond what the family would have had they put the house out and dealt with his not paying the fee in a more sensible way.

Secondly, as for internet anonymity for me? Excuse me but I am known by many and have put my life on the line. I had to leave my Mississippi home because I stood up to Haley Barbour and stopped the eviction of 2 section eight housing units in Pascagoula and Gulfport Mississippi. I spoke out on Air America Radio Network for Katrina Survivors, hosted radio shows for 3 1/2 years on Nova M Radio Network and Jeff Farias Radio Network, and was very visible in promoting the building of 100 homes in Pascagoula for those who lost homes and without this program wouldn't have been able to had their homes again. I took on Joe Arpaio to the point he tried to get my radio show cancelled by going so far as to raid my sponsor's business, and yes Arpaio as did Barbour knew where I lived. Also my story has been more than public knowledge for years as Thom Hartmann, Randi Rhodes, Mike Malloy, Bob Kincaid, and others have documented it. So it goes to show you don't always know what you are saying and assume such. I think this shows how much value one should put into your post. By the way google Herb "Sarge" Phelps and see what comes up, and I will gladly google you to see what comes up on you if you want. How about it?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #61
84. you lecture on morality, yet say duers would be ugly to this dying girl and family as you ask
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:31 PM by seabeyond
about the hate?

you dont see all the dishonesty and contradiction in that.

accusing duers of something really ugly, with no reason to think so. it is hateful.....
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #84
87. There are people, here on DU, who made fun of the death of my husband
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:34 PM by ScreamingMeemie
and of his son's grief. Yes, even here on DU. I wish it wasn't so.

It is not my intent to start (or continue) an argument. But there are ugly people here, just as there are in the real world.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #87
91. i am sorry. i certainly wasnt one of them. and i dont think i have earned the accusation i would
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:44 PM by seabeyond
be ugly, to anyone.

i cannot believe that we have a poster that yells about morality, being kind and compassionate, and the right side of liberal, making an accusation like this to others. and now duers on the board defending his ugly accusation he made to others.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #91
92. I have never had a problem with you. My point was that there are
horrible, vile actions here on DU everyday. Much more so than just taking one side over another on a current event.

Have a good day.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #92
96. one of them is sarge patting me on the head saying how proud he is i am appalled at treatment
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:46 PM by seabeyond
of this family.

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #96
97. Again, I am commenting on the belief that this kind of thing (what is posted about in the OP)
surely doesn't happen here. It does. All the time.

Other than that, I don't have a dog in the race. I just don't want to see DU held up as some saintly sanctuary of all good people.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:50 PM
Response to Reply #97
101. what i have never been much into, not supported or not challenged is fabricating ugliness
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:52 PM by seabeyond
for the purpose of making a point. and that is what this poster did. and posters now defend him. in essense, doing exactly what he and others are so concerned about

and in the most ugly way, using a child dying... and family in pain
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #101
104. As long as we're agreed that this kind of thing (exactly this kind of thing)
can, and has, happened here.

Take care seabeyond
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:03 PM
Response to Reply #101
108. again would you please correct your wrong statement
You were proven wrong on your inference toward me and even when I challenge you to google me to see how exposed I actually am and invite you to expose yourself to the same level you avoid doing so. What does that say that you can't correct yourself and continue to post such a statement as you have about me as to who you are? That is telling that you can't admit to your wrong statement even as it has been proven wrong, you continue to be insulting. So don't you think it would make you look better to admit your wrong than to continue to attack? I think you are proving who you are very well.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #108
113. all this is stroking your ego that you are known? really? accuse duers capable of ugly to dying
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 01:13 PM by seabeyond
child and their family in the most disgusting manner and you are worried about me stroking your ego that you are known.

i dont know you from adam. you are unknown to me. i dont care about all that fluff you gave me.

i dont like you saying i and others are capable of being ugly to this child that is dying. it is offensive.

but worry about the stroke to your ego

jeeeeezus
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #97
129. my deepest apologies for those too stubborn to do so
I don't recall this insulting thing being placed on you, but certainly I would like to apology for the hateful and indecent post of those who sunk to such a low level and further insulted themselves by not apologizing to you. When one wrongs another you would think they would apology, just as you would expect them to correct wrong information they put out and when proven wrong would have enough self respect to correct themselves. Sadly, that is where we are as people and even here where we claim compassion and human decency we have those who would rather place their personal pride above proving themselves respectful enough of themselves to correct a wrong. Such as those really are pathetic and troubled people. My deepest sympathy for your loss and my strongest regret you were subjected to so hideous a display of inhumanity.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #129
200. It was before your time here SargeUNN.
Unless you went by another name just prior to this one.

I appreciate that. It's kind of you. Life is tough enough without incurring insult from those we thought we knew.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 03:03 AM
Response to Reply #87
228. I'm sorry to hear that.
The anonymity of the internet has enabled people to say the most horrible things to each other. This site is no different. I'm terribly sorry if some people were so insensitive as to make fun of your pain. My condolences on the death of your husband. Don't ever let the jerks get you down!!!

:hug:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #87
253. They WHAT!?!
:grr:
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #55
66. Sarge does listen and read
to all sides. I don't understand where you think he misrepresents situations. I also do not find him self righteous.

Sarge is well known on the internet and other progressive areas. When he was on radio - he listened to all the people. By the way, you are annonymous aren't you?

I find this offensive also what you say but I am not going to waste any more to time and tear you apart.

There is no time for that. Actually, I have said I was not going to be here for a while but want to defend this Sarge.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #66
120. "We have people here that I have wonder if they wouldn't blame the child's family."
His words. :shrug:
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:18 PM
Original message
yep my words and here is my meaning
I was informed that people here blamed Katrina victims, I saw people here attack the man whose house was allowed to burn down and his belongs, some I am sure were precious on a personal level, and defend a county that could have just as easily put out the fire saving at least some of his belongs but chose to let it be destroyed over a freakin $75 fee. One person has posted how the loss of spouse drew obnoxious post here at DU. So considering the track record is it a reach not to have that thought? Certainly from this track record it is not an illogical reach.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:33 PM
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138. Don't backtack. That quote was right after you mentioned the fire department flamewar.
One that you've participated a lot in, including with me. That quote looked like you were only talking about about people on the opposite side of that argument. You clearly mean to make anyone who doens't agree with you to be cold and heartless. By the way, and as it has been explained before, including by me, it isn't the county, but the city. A city that can't afford to keep servicing the county for free. That's why they stopped. See, I have reasons for taking the position I do. I'm not a heartless person capable of taunting a dying child. Just someone who knows a bit more about this than you do.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #138
140. since I didn't single you out I have ask
Why do you say this? I have to wonder why you felt you need to respond in this manner.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #140
142. It doesn't work that way. When you attack a group, one of its members gets to respond.
So I responded.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #142
144. ok thanks for responding
I also appreciate you did not explain why allowing a person's house to burn with their valuables in the house and in some cases were not things that could ever be replaced due to the sentimental value, and how a man who had paid propety taxes for over 40 years should be so severely punished over a $75 fee and that person rates such distain, and yet you don't feel he was horribly wrong. Just wondering, where do you draw the line as to where decency ends?
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #144
149. I wish you'd explain why a city has to bankrupt itself
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 03:47 PM by Pithlet
providing a service to a county who refuses to pay its share? Why should the citizens who are paying their taxes lose their fire department? That's something I wish everyone who's been fighting me on this would explain. No one who is siding with the homeowner and their county has.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #149
150. don't you think it would be better
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 04:00 PM by SargeUNN
if you answered me first since I did ask? I would love to know where you draw the line. However because I will answer your question honestly even though you might choose to ignore mine, I will say that there are several ways to collect the fee available to the county and would have saved the house yet recouping the cost. I know of one person here in Arizona who needed a service was given it but in return was presented a bill beyond the fee to cover the cost. The responsible party had to pay the cost and did. The service was provided and the cost recoup. Now tell me why such a procedure wouldn't be as acceptable than letting the house burn is?
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:07 PM
Response to Reply #150
151. You and I already went back and forth on this. I told you. The city did that already.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 04:08 PM by Pithlet
The county has absolutely been recaletrant on this and the city has been driven to a last resort on this. Remember, 50% of the county's citzens hadn't even paid the fee and they kept showing up anyway? The city never got paid? This is why I've told you before that people with this stance aren't cruel, heartless people. We just know the facts. Remember, our little back and forth? And then I come into this thread and see you all They'd taunt dying children! That was why I was compelled to say something. But really, I shouldn't have. You don't want to listen. You want to demonize those that don't agree. But to answer your question. It's not about drawing a line. It's about acknowledging that the city had no choice. I'm on the side of the city who has obligation to its own citizens. They deserve to have a working, funded fire department. It's not their fault the county doesn't want to pay. They shouldn't suffer. That doesn't make me a bastard.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #151
156. this thread and see you all They'd taunt dying children!
please show me where I said this. I think you might be stating a false claim. As for the lack of collection of fees on the county's part (which I will assume you are correct on although the cited statement makes me unsure of if I should) then why are they so unable to find the way to do so? I also remember here in Arizona we had speed cameras and they were unable to collect because of a clause in the law that gave people an out. The decision was to drop the cameras instead of fixing it to where it would be collectable. You seem to be unwilling or unable to answer my question which I have to wonder why and I find it interesting you seem to be stating I am making you a demon when in fact I have not and yet you refuse to answer where the line should be draw choosing to use this line of response.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:24 PM
Response to Reply #156
157. Only that it's basically what you said. You compared us to those neighbors.
WHy are they unable to do so? The city and the county are two separate entities. In fact, they're in separate states. The county keeps voting no. The city simply cannot force the issue. I haven't answered your question? How haven't I answered it?
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:29 PM
Response to Reply #157
162. Since you seem to have missed the question and not picked up
on the asking it a couple more times, here it is, where do you draw the line as to where decency ends? if you don't understand the question please feel free to state so and I will try to make sure you have a clear understand.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #162
163. But it's such a vague question. How the hell am I supposed to answer it?
Okay. It's wrong to taunt dying children. There.
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #163
166. ok but anything less than a taunting a dying child is acceptable?
I don't think that is what you are saying, so please at what point should we draw the line?
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #166
167. Why of course. The line that SargeUNN would draw.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 05:14 PM by Pithlet
Anything more or less is unacceptable, right? What other answer could there possibly be?

Seriously. What do you want? What the heck are you asking? Of all the gazillion and one possible wrong things there are to do? What do you mean, line? That's the thing. There is no line. That's not how the world works. You're a black and white thinker. But the world is gray. In a gray world, a county's citizens keep voting not fund a fire department because they don't want to pay more taxes, and the fire department in the next city over is left with no choice but to no longer show up and fight their fires because that costs money. It happens. And then when the inevitable happens and the news sensationally covers it, some people don't get outraged and blame the wrong people. We aren't cruel, heartless bastards you're trying to make us out to be. Because we also happen to care about the people in the city and their homes. And they paid their taxes and funded their fire department. Why don't they count, too?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #166
174. see, you refuse to listen. as i said. a whole subthread clearly reinforcing what i said.
purposely
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:11 PM
Response to Reply #55
79. Well..Sarge isn't anonymous
http://coffeewithsarge.com/

I listen to his podcast and have followed his old time radio show.You can learn more about him at the link.He is a caring individual who hates to see anyone suffer...and my friend.

Peace.
Beth
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:16 PM
Response to Reply #79
82. the statement that because some on du wont villify the city FD, they would attack this dying child
and her family is not overboard?

i shouldnt be offended that because i recognize county has created this problem for all in that area

that i would do something as ugly as this to another human being

that works for you? and you see no reason for me or others to be bothered what we are being projected as?

have i ever given the impression i would do something so ugly? do i really deserve that because i wont vilify city?
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SargeUNN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #82
86. You really are reaching badly now
You made a wrong and proven wrong statement on me and yet we see you refuse to retract it. As for the fact those who would attack a man whose house was allowed to burn and praise the decision certainly have little compassion for the loss of this family, so to see some of them be less compassionate for this family isn't a far reach. Thankfully I am glad to see you at least agree this story of this girl and her family is horrible.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:45 PM
Response to Reply #86
93. that is so disgustingly condescending. nt
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #29
164. Shameful. How many threads have you started specifically to berate DUers
that don't agree with you on the TN fire, and yet you still felt compelled to use the disgusting situation in the OP to try and continue the insinuations?
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #29
177. sorry, Cranick was a jerk and an idiot. The child is an inncoent
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 05:45 PM by mkultra
this was a very strained attempt to exploit this horror to go back and make your point about Cranick.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #29
183. Glad you can use this tragedy to erect the monumental strawman...
... stay classy.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:09 AM
Response to Original message
30. In another post someone said they don't think someone like Beck has a soul
or a conscience.

The thing is, we all have the potential for a strong, good conscience, but it has to be nurtured and developed, in my opinion. It also has to be taught (through faith communities or similar groups, friendships, families, etc.) I'm not talking about platitudes, but exploring and building up the real values that inform a conscience: self awareness, compassion for others, connection to others, the earth, and to something larger than ourselves (God, the Cosmos, whatever you want to call it).

Look around. All the sources for this kind of nurturing, developing, and teaching about conscience are in tatters and neglected almost to the point of non-existence.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #30
41. Indeed they are, and it's becoming increasingly acceptable, even celebrated,
to be a general a@@hole nowadays.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:13 PM
Response to Reply #30
80. Absolutely
That was my Beck post you mentioned, and I was just being snarky in it. ;) I completely agree with you that everyone has the potential to develop compassion, sympathy, empathy--but it needs to be nurtured and taught. What frightens me is that in so many families, the opposite is taught. My son is in second grade, and already I have witnessed vicious, cold, unfeeling parents transferring their mannerisms to their kids who are my son's age. Breaks my heart.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:35 PM
Response to Reply #80
88. Yep.
And I didn't mean to imply you thought Beck has no soul...:hi:

We've become so atomized in our lives, chasing after things that are unreal and ultimately unfulfilling at the expense of what truly creates meaning in our lives, that whatever potential we have for a conscience, in general, is withering away.
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MorningGlow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:18 PM
Response to Reply #88
115. I have to admit
sometimes I wonder about him... ;)
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:09 AM
Response to Original message
31. Sounds like the neighboring family is a part of the Phelps/Westboro Baptist Church crowd.
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eyeofdelphi Donating Member (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:12 AM
Response to Original message
33. what the hell is going on?
all i've read all morning is horrible stories about kids being bullied by kids, by adults, kids killing themselves, etc. all for being "different," for having an accent, a weird name, being gay, for being male and liking the color pink (i'm not making this up!). and now kids are being tormented because they have a terminal illness! what in the fuck is going on with this country? i have to take a break from all this for a couple of hours or i'm going to puke. this is so sad and disgusting.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:18 AM
Response to Reply #33
35. Good question. The fact that we are hearing about it doesn't mean the phenomenon is new.
It means we're being told about it for some reason, most likely with profit as the underlying motive.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:26 AM
Response to Reply #35
45. Exactly. People act like this is something new
when it's not.

Cruelty has existed since humans first came out of the trees and out onto the savannahs.

It's just getting more coverage now. Or maybe it seems like it's happening more because there are more people in the country, and a certain percentage of the population is going to be seriously disturbed anyway.


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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:06 PM
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76. Yep-used to be you had to meet and know someone before finding out they were like this.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:06 PM by TwilightGardener
Now they all have Facebook/web pages, to broadcast their insanity and cruelty.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:16 AM
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34. Good Lord.
:-(
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:20 AM
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37. Someone needs to beat that ladies ass
I would say a few good scars are warranted...

If you haven't- watch the video at the link- amazing
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:39 AM
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50. That woman is absolutely disgusting.
The way she jokes about it being all about Halloween, and people need to just get with the program .................. she's very sick. Or just plain evil. Knowing that little girl and her mom, before dying, had to put up with this along with all the fear and trauma of dealing with terminal illness, beyond sad, and unimaginable. There should be legal recourse for this, and I hope they fight for it. The father looks heartbroken. Make the b* pay.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:04 PM
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74. Mental Illness Is All Too Common And Very Often Ignored
Just because this woman isn't shouting obscenities from the street corner and pissing on people does not mean she isn't mentally ill. YMMV but she is indeed very ill. Granted she is evil but my thinking tells me she is crazier than a shit-house teabagger.

On second thought she probably is a shit-house teabagger as well.
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Riktor Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:42 PM
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125. It is dismissive to label her as insane.
She's not.

She's a bitter, callous hag. You'll find an entry for that in the DSM.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:11 PM
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152. Mentally Ill Is Not The Same As Insane
http://www.helium.com/items/982779-mental-illness-versus-insanity

You need to read more and blab less. Bitter callous hag is NOT in the DSM. But you knew that and are just spewing crap. Welcome to ignore.
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:48 PM
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128. You may very well be right. I would hate to think that someone could be so
vile and hateful in a situation like this unless there were mentally ill. I cannot imagine the pain that the little girl's family must be feeling.
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polly7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:38 PM
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198. Being about Halloween ............... another lie, it seems.

"We're aware of the situation and are looking into it," said Trenton Deputy Police Chief James Nardone. "This has been ongoing for quite some time."

Efforts to reach Petkov by phone and in person this afternoon were unsuccessful.

Michelle Yerigian, 42, a longtime friend of the family, said she alerted the media about Petkov's alleged taunts.

"I don't understand how people could spew such hatred," Yerigian said. "They had a truck with a coffin on it; the police came by and finally had them take the coffin off. (Petkov) would pull up in the truck, rev up the engine, and say to Kathleen, 'I can't wait until you die.' When I saw what she posted on Facebook, I almost threw up. I'm totally dumbfounded."

Yerigian, whose 18-year-old daughter was killed in a car accident two years ago, said her 10-year-old son saw the coffin on the truck and was confused.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20101008/METRO01/10080461/1409/METRO08#ixzz11oylWjIi
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:14 AM
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62. I agree.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:21 AM
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38. How horrible.
:-( Is this what we've become?
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:25 AM
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42. That is disgusting.
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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:26 AM
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44. What goes around, comes around. May god forgive your ignorance.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:26 AM
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46. What's utterly tragic about all this is that society has little recourse for this.
If you watch the video, another neighbor says the Petkovs have done such a thing before and that theur despicable acts are directed at everyone in the neighborhood.

What a sad, sick world we share. :cry:
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:33 AM
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48. I don't believe in non-violence in all cases.
I hope that doesn't make me a bad person. Certainly not of the level of the horrible people taunting a dying girl.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:48 AM
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57. I hear you there
I am fortunate, or should I say they are fortunate, that I am not a neighbor.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:45 PM
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95. Agreed. (nt)
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:47 AM
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56. Horrifying
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 10:47 AM by Broderick
What a despicable couple. I wouldn't feel sorry if folks started picketing their house 24/7 as a show of support for the 7 year old girl that is suffering and the sad loss of her mother preceding her. If that was a family member of mine acting like this awful woman I would disown them.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:17 AM
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63. If you watch the video the husband is complaining about PPO's that
the harassed family has taken out on them.
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Broderick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:38 AM
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65. I found that
justification and suggestion they are victims odd. Having a PPO against you suggests that you are the bad person, not the other way around. Up is down, day is night, etc... Genuine creeps living in an alternative reality.
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Amaril Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:48 AM
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58. What the fuck is wrong with people?!?!?! n/t
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:20 AM
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64. Truthout had a great piece about this trend toward public humiliation
By Henry Giroux, it's long but worthwhile:

When Generosity Hurts: Bill Gates, Public School Teachers and the Politics of Humiliation

<<snip>>

When I refer to a culture of cruelty and a discourse of humiliation, I am talking about the institutionalization and widespread adoption of a set of values, policies and symbolic practices that legitimate forms of organized violence against human beings increasingly considered disposable, and which lead inexorably to unnecessary hardship, suffering and despair. Such practices are increasingly accompanied by forms of humiliation in which the character, dignity and bodies of targeted individuals and groups are under attack.
<<snip>>

http://www.truth-out.org/when-generosity-hurts-bill-gates-public-school-teachers-and-politics-humiliation63868
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:42 AM
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67. WTF? How does dislike for neighbors come to this?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:47 AM
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69. Oh, wait--just watched the video--now I understand. The neighbors are complete psychos.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:10 PM
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78. Yeah, I can understand not liking your neighbors, having a dispute with them, etc.
But to ridicule and gloat in their deaths, especially the death of a child?

You have to be dead to your humanity to do something like that.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:14 PM
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81. yes, that Petkov gal ain't right. One wonders if she has a job or other
contact within the community. Because if/when her employer, hairstylist, kids' teachers, etc. see this video, I hope she's shunned.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:54 AM
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71. Jennifer Lynn Petkov...a new name for scum.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:17 PM
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83. Beyond Scum My Friend
That vile belligerent fucktard and her SCUZ husband are reprehensible TRASH. Something to be disposed of. The video made my blood boil. They look and act like METH-HEADS. I predict they will be busted on drug charges soon.
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:32 PM
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85. This is one of the most despicable things I've ever heard.
A related story, that I heard on CBC radio's "As It Happens" last week:

"ST. PETERSBURG HIT AND RUN

Cruelty is so easy when you're online and anonymous.

Last month in St. Petersburg, Florida, Neil Alan Smith was riding his bike home from his job as a dishwasher when he was struck by a hit-and-run driver. He died in hospital six days later.

When the local newspaper ran a short story about Mr. Smith's death, one particular response submitted to their online comment section was so cruel that the paper removed it. And then the newspaper went a step further.

Andrew Meacham is a reporter with the St. Petersburg Times who wrote about Mr. Smith's death. We reached him in St. Petersburg, Florida."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/obituaries/hit-and-run-victim-was-quiet-and-dependable-co-workers-say/1124721


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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:36 PM
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89. Good God...
...yes, honest, decent, caring hardworkers should just die, because they aren't in the upper 1%.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:41 PM
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90. Thanks for posting that--really nice tribute to Mr. Smith. And even nicer,
some commenters pointed out that Mr. Smith's boss at the restaurant was still paying him minimum wage after 10 years, no raise.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:45 PM
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94. They've now taken down the comments section
As well as the name of the offending neighbor. Plenty of pissed-off people....probably got too hot for the news station to handle online.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:48 PM
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98. If she's tough enough with the reporter on the video, she should be
tough enough to handle it IRL.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:04 PM
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109. People don't ever think of the consequences when they're too busy blabbing
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 01:24 PM by AspenRose
on TV.

Bed. Made. Lie. If you ask me. She wanted attention, she got it; probably not the kind she expected, though. Even the newspeople looked disgusted.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:53 PM
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103. She agreed to be interviewed--not sure how they can walk this back.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:50 PM
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100. Edit: comments taken down so...
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 12:51 PM by Zephie
I still have a copy of the contact info from the comments... Not that anyone should do anything about it or anything...
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:58 PM
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169. If you google their names, someone posted on Craigslist.
They can be found. They wanted the attention, so I hope they get it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:56 PM
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105. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 12:58 PM
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106. I assume DU Rules prevent me posting their name and phone number..
here, but I think I will make a trip over to /b when i get home.. No rules there.
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:10 PM
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112. I may or may not already have several people on that
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 01:11 PM by Zephie
Though a few more might be helpful were that scenario true. :toast:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:18 PM
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114. I suspect it's already there. n/t
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:22 PM
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117. Update--name, address, phone number are there. I expect employer
info at some point.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:29 PM
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119. Reciprocity.. (nt)
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:32 PM
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122. It's what's for dinner...n/t
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:17 PM
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153. My sense of indignation about that just got beaten up by my sense of justice
Oh, /b/, sometimes you are useful...
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:25 PM
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158. Jennifer and Scott Petkov
it's in the article.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:00 PM
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107. I so wish I believed in hell right now. nt
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Mike Marble Donating Member (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:09 PM
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110. My God. I have to resist the impulse to drive to Michigan...
...and kick that couple to the ground. What horrible, horrible people.
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:09 PM
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111. Well that was fast (Facebook)


"Jennifer Lynn Petkov (Burnett) is Downriver Trash" - 270 "likes" and climbing
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:20 PM
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116. There is also a Devil of Detroit Street... that has been on facebook
for weeks.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:36 PM
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123. Hope to see "In a follow up story..
police found a couple bound and gagged in their home last night. Police believe an attacker or attackers disabled the couple with a stun gun and then used a ball peen hammer to break their jaws, femurs, bones in their hands and feet. The attacker then forced a 556 nato round into the one of the couples ear canals causing hearing loss" "Police report that the couple wrote (because their jaws are wired shut) the attackers told them if they ever spoke to or about the dying child again the next rifle round wedged in their head would not have the case attached"

When asked for a comment about their dying neighbor the couple had no comment.

This post in NO WAY advocates violence and in no way encourages bad behavior.. Again only imagination..
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:40 PM
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124. Here's the fb page to have her removed from fb-
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Rozlee Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:42 PM
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207. Thanks. I just joined.
:hi:
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:44 PM
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126. FUNDRAISING INFORMATION FOR LITTLE KATHLEEN
If you want to do positive things

http://www.firstgiving.com/kathleenscrusaders
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:47 PM
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127. Best thing for the likes of the Petrovs; treat them with utter kindness, compassion, humility.
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 01:47 PM by blondeatlast
In a room they were unable to escape from for as long as it takes.

They would HATE IT--and we wouldn't sink to ther level.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 01:58 PM
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130. Kinda risky . . . ridiculing someone who is going to die soon and has nothing to lose.
I'm not suggesting anything . . . just saying . . . nt
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:12 PM
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131. UPDATE: It was over a birthday party
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 02:13 PM by AspenRose
Fox Detroit has updated their page, to add:

"A member of Kathleen's family says the bad blood started about two years ago after the two families had a falling out over a birthday party at the Rose house. At the party kids were using a "bounce-house" and playing games in the front yard. The source says that Jennifer Petkov texted someone in the Rose family, asking if her kids could come to the event. A response to the text did not come quickly enough and it angered Jennifer. According to the Rose family, she's been harassing them ever since."

I can see why your kids weren't invited to the party, lady....your behavior is making your kids pariahs in the neighborhood! And this crap's been going on for two years!!!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:14 PM
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133. wow. just wow. nt
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:51 PM
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141. Perhaps she could have got up off her lazy ass and walked over to ask in person?
I mean, if she was in such a goddam hurry to get an immediate answer.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:32 PM
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175. that, or may they all didnt get along so much and they really didnt want the kids there.
i mean. not seeming like a nice lady. may not have been a nice lady prior to the event, lol

i could see not answering back.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 11:01 PM
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218. unfortunately this is not an isolated case
the neighbors from hell is common place world wide. It is not easy to move away from these horrors.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:14 PM
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132. Today's Worst. Person. In The World!!!
:grr: :banghead:
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:18 PM
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134. Today's, tomorrow's, and the next day's! nt
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:19 PM
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136. To think, those sickening people will have a chance in this world....
but that beautiful little girl's time is so limited. This makes me beyond angry. :(
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 02:25 PM
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137. That TV station streams its newscasts live. Story will be updated on their 5pm newser
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Sweet Charming Dem Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:23 PM
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143. Every day I am more and more shocked by human cruelty.
Bullying, gay bashing in gay bars, letting a man's house burn down...

Just this morning, I found out one of my friends was murdered by his wife. One of the nicest men you could ever meet.

I have no faith in people anymore.

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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 03:33 PM
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145. worse thing I've ever heard
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:26 PM
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159. No.
:cry:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:28 PM
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160. Another Successful Graduate of the Fred Phelps PR and Charm School. nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:34 PM
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165. OMFG! There are no words!
:grr:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:48 PM
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168. It's upset the 4chan folks.
http://www.urlesque.com/2010/10/08/4chan-hunts-down-detroit-couple-taunting-dying-girl/

I just saw this story on the local news. That Petkov "woman" is a real piece of work. I'm trying to gauge how much I hate her.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:41 PM
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206. What do you think she's on?
n/t.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:19 PM
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210. On?
I can only judge from what I saw and what I've read. From that, I can only say she's on an ego-filled wave of hate. To attack a 7 year old child that's been given a death sentence...you've got to be a special kind of awful.
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:34 PM
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213. Yeah, but it looked like some kind of drug thing was happening in there too.
That was NOT a normal human response to anything that we saw from Ms. Petkov.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:38 PM
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214. I agree with you, it could be.
To be honest, she and her husband/boyfriend/brother/cousin look especially sketchy.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 03:39 AM
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229. "4channers Hunt Down Detroit Couple ..."
Good. It serves the Petkovs right. They'll be getting a taste of their own medicine, and how.

You have to be a special kind of asshole for the 4chan folks to deem your actions appalling enough for this kind of response.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 10:21 PM
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254. Instant Karma!
Serves the fuckers right! :grr:
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 04:59 PM
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170. And I bet they call themselves "Christians" too
Often the worse the behavior is, the more likely it is to come from a self-confessed "devout Christian."

Just more fuel for my conviction that people SUCK. I hate the human race in general and these people in particular.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:04 PM
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171. UPDATE...
There's an updated video at the link that shows the husband apologizing. They must be getting seriously harassed. GOOD. I hope they continue to pay. A simple apology is not enough, especially not from the husband. The bitch from hell needs to sincerely apologize herself on television. That would be a start.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:12 PM
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172. I don't see the apology vid, is there a link? nt
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:16 PM
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173. In the article itself, it says...
"Today Fox 2's Amy Lange is working to get more answers on why this happened and what will happen next. See her live report on Fox 2 News at 5:00 . Her video report will be added to this story immediately following."

And there is a link embedded. I must have clicked on the link exactly as they were broadcasting the live story because I just happened to catch it. Now it just seems to be a live feed of the news. However it looks like they will have a link to the story once the news is over. I'll post it here when it's up.

The hideous neighbors moved their truck and the husband says he'll repaint it. Then he apologized for their "stupidity". Stupidity doesn't even cover it buddy.

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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:39 PM
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186. somebody should repaint it with a firebomb
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:58 PM
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180. Here it is
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DeschutesRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 06:05 PM
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247. Only because he was suspended from his job, might be fired, & his eldest kid sent home from school
when others confronted him about the evil Facebook page. He said his wife's "brutal honesty" has meant this family doesn't get along with others. Isn't that just the understatement of a lifetime?

She apologized as well, saying she is the bad person, her dh is good, and "hopes he doesn't lose his job over this." They apologized because bad shit is starting to happen to them and they want it to stop.

Fat fucking chance, lady. Looks like it is only getting started, and is going world wide viral. You will now be one of the unhappy living dead for the rest of your life. I actually hope it is a long one, so that you are not at all shortchanged on the suffering end of things.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20101009/METRO01/10090373/Trenton-woman-apologizes-for-Facebook-taunts


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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:35 PM
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176. When anybody can feel safe to do this
reveals a country that has lost it's moral center, and a society that is far from functional.

Just saying.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 05:46 PM
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178. Does this qualify under the Code of Harry? If so, can Dexter fly
to Michigan or something? Just an idea.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:03 PM
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181. Link to "apology." If this is the best they can do (and the woman isn't even involved)
well, bless their hearts (spoken from my deepest Southern roots)

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/the_edge/dying-girl-taunted-by-neighbors-in-trenton
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:09 PM
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182. Why....
It doesn't matter, no answer is good enough. The couple that did these things need therapy at the very least. Something inside their heads is broken.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:18 PM
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184. Because of "things" that were said about his home and wife.
Sorry sir, that doesn't make what you did in retaliation okay. I cannot believe he brought that up in an apology for something so heinous.
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Zax2me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:14 PM
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202. Yes, what an 'apology'
What the hell could have been said? On second thought, I don't even want to know, because I think it would make me angrier.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:21 PM
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185. DetNews @ 6:27pm: Dying girl’s family gets support after alleged Facebook taunts

Last Updated: October 08. 2010 6:27PM
Dying girl’s family gets support after alleged Facebook taunts
George Hunter and Doug Guthrie / The Detroit News


Trenton — Friends and family of a terminally ill 7-year-old girl who allegedly was tormented by a neighbor say they have received an outpouring of support from across the world.

Kathleen Edward, who is the final stages of Huntington's disease, has allegedly been the target of taunts by a woman who lives across the street. The woman, Jennifer Petkov, told Fox 2 Detroit that she posted pictures on Facebook depicting the little girl's face above a set of crossbones. The page has since been removed.

Another Facebook photo shows Kathleen's mother, Laura, who died last year of Huntington's disease at age 24, in the arms of the grim reaper.

"We're aware of the situation and are looking into it," said Trenton Deputy Police Chief James Nardone. "This has been ongoing for quite some time."

Efforts to reach Petkov by phone and in person this afternoon were unsuccessful.

Michelle Yerigian, 42, a longtime friend of the family, said she alerted the media about Petkov's alleged taunts.

more...


From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20101008/METRO01/10080461/1408/LOCAL#ixzz11oH6WToB
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 06:52 PM
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188. I'll K&R this for days
It's so sickening. With all the talk about bullying...this just goes to show it exists and it's epidemic in our society. Different, gay, disabled, poor, different skin color or speaking accent...it doesn't matter, we're tossing people aside in this country. It needs to stop NOW.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:45 PM
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190. LIke I said, monkey see monkey do. Thanks Cheney, Bush, Gonzales, Rice for the roles models you
represent for our youth.  Fuckhead.s 
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:43 AM
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222. I think that there's absolutely something to that.
It's no coincidence that the level of bullying, dehumanization, and lack of empathy has increased in a country that actually had mainstream apologists for the atrocities at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere over that past 10 years.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:45 PM
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191. it does seems like that...mindless cruelty seems to be increasing
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 07:51 PM
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193. I hope those people die in a fire n/t
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:27 PM
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194. K&R
And I'll keep kicking it for the next several days.

Is this what we've come to?
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:35 PM
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196. Totally sick. This story will be botherring me for days now. eom
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 08:37 PM
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197. Whew! I'm glad that this isn't in the south...
sad, disgusting all the same.
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:27 PM
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205. Why are you glad this isn't in the South?
Why does it matter where it is?
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:47 PM
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216. because whenever it is in the South people make mention of it
especially if it's texas or Florida.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:04 PM
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201. ***For interested parties*** A fundraising page that was set up in April in
Kathleen's honor for research into finding treatment for Huntington's disease:

http://www.firstgiving.com/kathleenscrusaders
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:15 PM
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203. These people started this shit because the family of the dying girl
Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 09:22 PM by Ken Burch
didn't give them a fast enough answer over whether their kids could come over and play in the "bounce house"? TWO YEARS AGO??

I don't know which is worse...teh evil or teh stupid!

Shame on the Petkovs for being like that over nothing.

And Ms. Petkov is like an Amy Poehler "Upright Citizens Brigade" character, but without the comedy. Definitely headed for future "Faces of Meth" territory.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:18 PM
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204. Why do people like this exist?!?!
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 09:58 PM
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208. Kick! nt
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 02:25 AM
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225. Kick! nt
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jennied Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:33 PM
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212. It's the epitome of evil.
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 02:02 AM
Response to Reply #212
224. Yes.
Blood-curdling, gut-wrenching evil.
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:41 PM
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215. Apparently, the good folks over at 4chan have caught wind of this assholery...
Sarcastic comments aside, they are not amused... :)
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-08-10 10:53 PM
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217. I have akways found that the cruelest humans are the one's that
squeal the loudest when something "goes wrong" in their lives. So if this cruel family should suddenly find themselves with a parent suffering from brain cancer, they would "demand" that someone "do"" something.

If there is a hell, I will cart an extra 100# down there just to fire things up a bit...people like this dot deserve to live.

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DesertFlower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:33 AM
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220. disgusting. nt
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 12:37 AM
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221. 30 years of liberal bashing and hatred for "bleeding hearts" (a.k.a those who are
kind hearted, compassionate and empathic) and we're surprised? Once the fairness doctrine was killed all bets were off; corporations pushed the "blame the victim" mentality hard, as does the GOP. It gets them off the hook for victimizing people. This kind of evil is a symptom of all of it, and we need to start fighting hard against this kind of despicable behavior.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 05:34 AM
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231. +1000 n/t
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radhika Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 01:00 AM
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223. One Word: Kaliyuga n/t
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 02:55 AM
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227. I have heard of neighbor's disputes, but this one makes me sick.
Apology for Taunting Dying Little Girl

Scott Petkov says he's sorry. "We apologize for our actions and stupidity. It was an ignorant thing that we did and it was basically in retaliation about things that were said about my house and my wife."

Scott's wife Jennifer doctored-up and posted photos of Laura Edward, who died from Huntington's Disease, showing her wrapped in the arms of the grim reaper. She also posted a photo of Laura's 7-year-old daughter, Kathleen Edward, who is now dying from Huntington's Disease, her face becoming the center of a skull and crossbones.

---------

All this because of a neighborhood dispute? Why? Ron Savage asked Jennifer that question. She says "for personal satisfaction... because it burns Rebecca Rose's ass raw."

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/apology-for-taunting-dying-little-girl

How cruel can people be????? Watch the video. The guy is a jerk, but the wife is one sick, disturbing woman. What a disgusting person!!! She has kids of her own, I pity them.

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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 04:37 AM
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230. that's a special level of petty evil.
i wonder if it gets a special level of hell in medieval cosmology...
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 05:48 AM
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233. For what it's worth...The couple taunting the dying girl apolgizes. nt/
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:25 AM
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235. It's not really an apology at all, it's still all about THEM.
Read the "apology" from Scotty, they are STILL making excuses.

What nasty trash. :(

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:04 AM
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237. True, that....hideous, hideous.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 06:20 AM
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234. These people are the dregs of society. They personify the worst of humanity.
Hate - it will be the downfall of mankind.


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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:27 AM
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236. if i lived in the neighborhood
i would whip that pussy ass husbands fucking ass. and i have never laid a hand on a woman in my life, but if she said ONE WORD, i would make an exception and knock that cunts teeth out
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:27 AM
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238. Ha Ha, the husband has been suspended from his job!
"Scott Petkov said the fallout of the Sept. 30 photo postings on a Facebook page his wife created in retaliation resulted Friday in his suspension with pay from his job as a forklift repairman in Warren. He said his employer is considering firing him. The eldest of the Petkovs’ four children was sent home from school after getting into an argument with a classmate who confronted him about the Internet photos, said the couple."

From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/20101009/METRO01/10090373/1409/metro/Trenton-woman-apologizes-for-Facebook-taunts#ixzz11s5Zrr2x
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athenasatanjesus Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 09:33 AM
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240. At least the girl will die as a human being...
...which is more then I can say for the neighbors.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:10 AM
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242. Nevermind.
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 10:59 AM by Barack_America
There's a thread on Fark, if you're interested.
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:14 AM
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243. Folks like this usually end up fucking with the wrong people one day.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:28 AM
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244. self-delete.
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 10:59 AM by Barack_America
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:36 AM
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245. Kick for the weekend crowd. nt
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 06:21 PM
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248. Evening kick.
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littlewolf Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:42 PM
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249. there is Karma ....and it is a B*tch
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 12:44 PM by littlewolf
self delete
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Cleanelec Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:10 PM
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250. Pure fucking evil
That's all you can call those two.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 10:08 PM
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251. Pretty much.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 10:11 PM
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252. Story hits England, and the Brits are not pleased.
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