Grown2Hate
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:15 PM
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A thought just occurred to me... if Osama Bin Laden HIMSELF wanted to |
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help a certain Senator, Governor, or Congressman to be elected here in America, he could spend unlimited amounts of money to do so, and we wouldn't even be allowed to find out from where the donation came (correct me if I'm wrong). Citizens United indeed.
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:16 PM
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1. Pandora's box - unleashed. |
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I hadn't thought of that.
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:19 PM
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5. Yeah. Rachel is talking about it right now, and that popped in my head. It's not even just |
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a good talking point... it's an undeniable fact. And it doesn't even scare me as much as it PISSES me off.
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:16 PM
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2. I don't think you're wrong. But this system sure the fuck is. nt |
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:18 PM
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Been saying that. We all need to keep saying that louder and Louder and LOUDER!
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:19 PM
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:23 PM
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6. Bahrain would help him do it, wouldn't it? |
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:24 PM
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7. Hell, how 'bout the US (sic) Chamber of Commerce? NT |
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:28 PM
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:28 PM
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8. The company I retired from is a US subsidiary |
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owned by a Russian company. One Russian billionaire owns more than 95% of the stock of the Russian company. I assume he could pay unlimited amounts of money to influence our elections through his US subsidiary. Doesn't sound right to me.
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:33 PM
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10. Exactly. Realistically, substitute any horrible person's name with lots of money for |
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the same chilling result. Lather, rinse, vomit.
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:35 PM
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11. Yup. No doubt. Feel free to use that as a talking point, because it applies. |
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Although the Pakistani ISI, the Chinese (whatever they call their intelligence agency), etc., would be more realistic.
PB
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:36 PM
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12. Exactly.........Al Queda themselves could be contributing |
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to the repukes through the Chamber of Commerce.
Everybody knows that the repukes enact policies that create more terrorists!
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:36 PM
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13. Yep, this brings a whole new level of definition as to how F'ed up the US is anymore. n/t |
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:38 PM
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14. BUT there is a law that it is illegal for foreign nationals and |
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companies to contribute to our elections. If, and there is an if, it could be found out, people accepting this money could be prosecuted. Look at how they prosecuted banks for funneling money to the Middle East. Now we need to find the money funneled from the Middle East to places like the Chamber of Commerce.
And the reason they do this, is because they know our government will not make a fuss. They are too busy going after people who smoke pot. People who make speeches about wanting peace. The FBI has it's priorities and Mueller is going to be bothered about real crime such as this.
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:57 PM
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17. Take any huge conglomerate like GE for example a US |
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company but I am sure they have stockholders all over the world. GE could spend any amount they wanted influencing our elections while a large portion of the company may be owned by people in other countries. Take the company I worked for it is owned by a Russian company. The Russian company is 95% owned by one Russian billionaire but if some of the other 5% is owned by Americans couldn't that company also give unlimited amounts of money? What about these American companies that are chartered in the Caribbean or somewhere to avoid taxes?
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Sat Oct-09-10 08:20 PM
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41. Money laundering is easy |
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Any big, important flows of cash would be cleaned up.
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:40 PM
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15. I remember when the SCOTUS made their decision there |
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Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 08:42 PM by doc03
were many here on DU that agreed with them.
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Fri Oct-08-10 08:51 PM
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16. Seriously? I thought at the time, "Wow, this decision could ACTUALLY destroy this democracy once |
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and for all". And it appears to be taking shape...
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Sat Oct-09-10 09:59 AM
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29. Wow, I really, really don't remember too many who agreed |
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There were a handful but the vast majority of us who could still pick our collective jaws up off of the floor and continue to type were quite, quite horrified. Still am.
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Sat Oct-09-10 12:07 PM
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I don't remember any DUers agreeing with that decision.
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Fri Oct-08-10 09:04 PM
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18. If Osama Bin Laden Actually Ran As A Candidate............... |
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He would be for small government, the intertwining of religion and government, the abolition of abortion, the abolition of women's rights, gay rights, and the rights of pretty much every minority, he would abandon science for superstition, he'd be for a huge military and preemptive war, he'd be dead-set against free speech and gun control, he would make reinstituting "moral values" a top priority of his candidacy, etc., etc., etc.
Soooooooo.........if Osama Bin Laden showed up in America and decided to run for elected office.............which Party do you think he'd be a member of??????
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Fri Oct-08-10 09:09 PM
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19. Sounds like the ultimate Teabagger n/t |
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Fri Oct-08-10 09:16 PM
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21. Teabaggers would make perfect recruits |
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They are angry, gullible and full of hate. If it wasn't for the fact that most of them are over 50, there would probably be even more violence here.
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Fri Oct-08-10 09:44 PM
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23. Wow... how do I recommend a reply? ::applauds:: |
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Fri Oct-08-10 09:11 PM
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20. Makes one wonder about the competency of SCOTUS, doesn't it... n/t |
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Sat Oct-09-10 10:00 AM
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30. Nope, I haven't seen a lot to recommend it since the year 2000 |
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Sat Oct-09-10 12:22 PM
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34. Yep, excellent point!!! n/t |
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Fri Oct-08-10 09:26 PM
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22. Correct. How long has his family been in business with the Bush's? |
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Fri Oct-08-10 09:46 PM
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24. wait until the tea baggers finally extrapolate all of this. |
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Right now they are all slapping themselves on the backs for being able to get all this funding in sectret. Just wait, when they start worrying about where the Dems funding will be coming from. You don't think Angle and her ilk will be jumping on the Moslem Al Q donation diatribe?
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Fri Oct-08-10 10:11 PM
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25. No one here is going to correctly correct you on that. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-08-10 10:12 PM by lonestarnot
Creepy as the dude in the nazi suit.
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Sat Oct-09-10 01:28 AM
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Sat Oct-09-10 03:58 AM
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27. hmm, Dino Rossi had a sudden mysterious influx |
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and the race with Murray is very close.
Always wondered about that knife like scar on his face...
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Sat Oct-09-10 10:02 AM
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31. Yep, that's what is finally getting this really disgruntled Dem back in the trenches |
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I want Dino Rossi to have to crawl back under that rock he came out from under.
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Sat Oct-09-10 09:57 AM
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28. Except for the being dead thing, you are absolutely right |
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I wish that had been the framing from the day "Citizens United" was birthed.
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Sat Oct-09-10 12:03 PM
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32. Yeah, dead guys are probably about the ONLY ones not contributing to Repukes this year... |
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and even then, I've heard crazier things. Zombies for Rossi. Another good reason to work to keep at least slim majorities in both houses (and to be sure we hold the White House in 2012)... one of those five traitors has to drop eventually, and we don't need another fucking Roberts or Scalito hybrid holding a seat for 40 years...
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Sat Oct-09-10 01:01 PM
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Dead people contribute to............and vote for............Republicans in OVERWHELMING numbers. Invisible people too. Just like that entire apartment building in St. Louis. Remember that? I can't remember if it was 2000 or 2004, but apparently someone noticed that every resident (and there were hundreds) of a huge apartment building in St. Louis voted for Bush, so they decided to go to that building and interview some of the people to find out why everyone in the building voted the same way. Guess what they found when they got there. Go ahead and say it, you know the answer. A vacant lot.
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Sat Oct-09-10 05:26 PM
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36. I don't doubt at ALL that something like this could/would happen, but how did someone know |
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form whom all those people were voting (it being a private ballot and all)?
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Sat Oct-09-10 06:33 PM
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37. Alito thinks you're wrong. |
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Sat Oct-09-10 06:41 PM
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38. And that my friend is an Epiphany |
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That's what we have been saying. And it gets worse. If News Corp is controlled by Saudi, and it is, and Faux News is controlled by News Corp, guess who is feeding all this bull shit to the American people that just can't seem to change the channel.
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Sat Oct-09-10 06:44 PM
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39. I think the Bin Laden family has already |
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helped fund one our recent Presidents. Osama's brother helped Dubya start his first business, but even with the Bin Laden money behind him, he managed to fail.
And wasn't it revealed during the 9/11 Hearings that many in Congress were doing business with the Bin Ladens? Many of them were living here at the time, probably still are. I wouldn't be surprised if Bin Laden money has backed a few Republicans already.
Sorry, just remembered that. The whole thing, the terror war, the wars, the fear, the 'patriot games', it's all so phony, and only for the little people. The Rich have no qualms doing business with the 'enemy' so long as it makes them money.
But yes, it is conceivable that Bin Laden could donate money to candidates here. He was happy when Bush won after all.
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Sat Oct-09-10 08:19 PM
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40. Ever wonder why John Ashcroft blocked investigation into al Qaeda's finances? |
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Sat Oct-09-10 08:32 PM
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42. Bin Laden is dead. eom |
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Sat Oct-09-10 10:22 PM
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43. Use it as a "fill in the blank" talking point and replace Bin Laden with ANY other well funded |
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boogieman that would clearly NOT have America's interest first and foremost as a priority. And SPREAD the word.
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