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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 06:11 AM
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Surprise -- The Very Dark Side of U.S. History
Surprise -- The Very Dark Side of U.S. History
Consortium News / By Peter Dale Scott and Robert Parry
October 8, 2010 |

~snip~

Many Democrats in Congress and journalists in the Washington press corps buckled under the attacks, giving the Reagan administration much freer rein to carry out brutal "death squad" strategies in El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala and Nicaragua.

What is clear from these experiences in Indonesia, Vietnam, Central America and elsewhere is that the United States, for generations, has sustained two parallel but opposed states of mind about military atrocities and human rights: one of U.S. benevolence, generally held by the public, and the other of ends-justify-the-means brutality embraced by counterinsurgency specialists.

Normally the specialists carry out their actions in remote locations with little notice in the national press. But sometimes the two competing visions - of a just America and a ruthless one - clash in the open, as they did in Vietnam.

Or the dark side of U.S. security policy is thrown into the light by unauthorized leaks, such as the photos of abused detainees at Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq or by revelations about waterboarding and other torture authorized by George W. Bush's White House as part of the "war on terror."

Only then does the public get a glimpse of the grim reality, the bloody and brutal tactics that have been deemed "necessary" for more than two centuries in the defense of the purported "national interests."




unhappycamper comment: If you were to read this article, you would find out that School Of The Americas "training material was prepared by officers connected to the Phoenix program." In other words, the United States gave them a jump start on how to terrorize local South American populations.

Another good source of unwashed American history can be found in Howard Zinn's book, 'A People's History Of The United States'.

We have been doing this shit for a very long time.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 06:13 AM
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1. Who do you say South American populations?
South America, Central America and the Caribbean - US national interest trumps the lives of all on the planet
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 07:19 AM
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2. Funny how such programs never make the history books...
...just as the genocide against Native Americans wasn't on the radar screen two generations ago.
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 07:22 AM
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3. One of my favorite t-shirts:
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:16 AM
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7. I have that!
And this one.



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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 07:32 AM
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4. Somebody give this unhappycamper a medal, please.
k&r.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 07:38 AM
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5. An Appreciation Thread is how we generally do it here.
I'm game. He's phenomenal.

K and R
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Wounded Bear Donating Member (665 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:06 AM
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6. Not to divert from the subject....
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 08:06 AM by Wounded Bear
but Naomi Klein's excellent book, The Shock Doctrine also delineates much of the modern history of these abuses.

Most Americans are pretty naive when it comes to real history.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:23 AM
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8. Saudi citizens are currently kept in line by a US owned mercenary company called Vinnell Corporation
Wonder how those thugs treat the Saudi citizenry? Imagine living like that?

Don
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:04 PM
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12. "Vinnell Corporation is a subsidiary of Northrop Grumman Corporation."
They are also party to other joint venture companies; i.e., VBR (Vinnell-Brown & Root).

The Vinnell Corporation was mentioned in Fahrenheit 9/11 for its connections to the Carlyle Group, George W. Bush, and the Saudi Royal family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinnell_Corporation
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 08:29 AM
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9. Tom Ridge in Vietnam -
http://www.counterpunch.org/ridge2.html

ah, we (the US military) bring out the best in most folks - and Tom then got to bring his skills to Homeland Security

bleh
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:11 AM
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10. This ties in closely with another current thread on private surveillance
I just posted on that one -- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9284932

It's not just domestic propaganda that's the necessary other side of brutal counter-insurgency tactics. It's also the matter of spying on and suppressing any groups that might bring those tactics to light.

And, of course, you can toss the current fuss over WikiLeaks into the mix. Once you decide to use government-sanctioned terror as a means of political control, you are inevitably driven to turning the tactics of suppression on anyone who tries to tell the truth.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 10:01 PM
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11. Exactly. And that ushers in the corruption that hides in the shadows afforded by those tactics. (nt)
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sansatman Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:23 PM
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13.  US Military and CIA Interventions Since World War II.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:28 PM
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14. k&r nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:33 PM
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15. K&R.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:41 PM
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16. There is another great book, Empire's Workshop
by Greg Grandin, that looks at this material. He is excellent, fwiw.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/id/168873
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 05:14 AM
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17. I am currently reading "A People's History ..." (2005 edition).
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 05:15 AM by BlueMTexpat
IMO, it should be required reading for everyone who wants to understand why we are the way we are. It is an eminently readable book and is literally devastating. "You've got to be carefully taught" and distracted and split. It's the same situation over ... and over ... and over ... again. When will we ever learn?
Zinn also collaborated on a book that is a graphic presentation: "A People's History of American Empire." Yes, indeed, we've been doing "this shit" from the beginning. Think "Monroe Doctrine" and "eminent domain" for starters. We have never had problems with taking/giving away land belonging to others and appropriating it for our own purposes - no matter where in the world that land is situated.
We miss you, Howard! Very much!
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 06:51 AM
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18. This has been going on since the "founding" of our country -
you know when Europeans decided they wanted the land indigenous peoples were already living on, and then set out to drive those Native Americans off the land they "claimed".
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GETPLANING Donating Member (370 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 03:42 PM
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19. Support Consortium News
Robert Parry's site is a gold mine of information on everything from Iran-Contra to the stolen elections of 2000 and 2004. They are struggling to keep the website financed, and to see it disappear would be a great loss. Send them some $love$ if you can.
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