School tries to clean up dirty dancing (not kidding)

[liberal N proud]

An Ohio school district is trying to put the kibosh on dirty dancing.

WTOL-TV reports that students at Sylvania Southview in northwest Ohio will have to wear bracelets to their homecoming dance this weekend to help chaperones track bumpers and grinders.

Chaperones can snip students' bracelets if they think they're dancing too close together. If a couple's caught dirty dancing a second time, they have to bid farewell to the dance floor

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39594743/ns/local_news-cleveland_oh/


I would have gotten kicked out of this dance in the first hour. If nothing else just to prove that these people are just nuts.

[Ken Burch]

1. The stupid part is, if you kick the kids out

They'll just go somewhere else and start having sex.

[JoePhilly]

2. You nailed that ... plenty of them see the dance as "foreplay" anyway ...

Kick them out, and all you did was send them to the back seat of a car, the basement of an unknowing parent, or to a motel room.

But at least prudish administrators don't have to watch kids having fun.

[Buns_of_Fire]

3. Meanwhile, over at Truman High, they're signing contracts...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9157673

[davepc]

4. The clothed dry humping that passes for 'dancing' these days is a far cry from Swayze/Grey

I've got no problems with a school telling kids to simulate sex acts on their own time at not at school events.

[seabeyond]

8. +1. basically they are telling the kids... no fuckin on the dance floor

no to outrageous of a request.

[Occulus]

25. Since they're kicking them out after violating a warning, it's more like "go fuck someplace else"

which isn't exactly the message one wants to send to hormonal teens at a school dance, primarily because they will.

Hopefully, this will backlash against the school in a really nasty way. Sorry about sounding like I'm wishing multiple parties harm, but there's a severe graveyard mentality present in morality police, and obvious, visible harm to their victims is the only way they ever learn anything. Sociopaths of a particular color, they.

Yet we keep putting them in charge. It's truly a pathetic lack of critical thinking.

[seabeyond]

30. if we are not allowing our children to fuck on the dance floor than we are morality police?

ok

you seem to think there is an issue giving kids boundaries. people on this board demand it when it comes to bullying. demand it when it comes to education. but god forbid we tell our kids not to fuck on a gym floor.

[Odin2005]

45. That is the thing, they are not ACTUALLY "fucking".

Is there any actual nudity and intercourse? No? then there is no fucking. :eyes:

[KittyWampus]

50. You think nudity and penetration are required for fucking?

[Odin2005]

54. If by "fucking" you mean sex, yes.

Or does passionate kissing and necking give you the vapors?

[KittyWampus]

64. dry humping isn't passionate kissing and necking.

[KittyWampus]

49. morality? It's called decorum. And dry-humping is inappropriate in a school setting.

[seabeyond]

53. we dont fuck on the streets. we dont fuck in veggie isle. not to much to tell kids no fuckin on gym

floor.

this is a ridiculous argument.... isnt it? lol

[JerseygirlCT]

39. Totally agree! nt

[HuckleB]

99. It could be considered dry humping, but it's another category, IMO.

Maybe call it hyper dry humping, or something. Dry humping usually has some build up to it, and it can be compared to moving from seduction to actual sex, whereas this is just the extra fast movie version of sex, where the couple comes together in less than 30 seconds from start to finish.

[TexasObserver]

5. The kids have to stop doing the Charleston ... I mean, the Twist ... I mean ....

Although I will admit the grinding they're talking about now is pretty much over the line for a chaperoned event.

Please, teens, do that when your parents and teachers are not around.

[hayu_lol]

7. How quickly people forget...

the civilized world was shocked at the waltz.

They were more shocked at the can can.

[MissB]

6. Our kids learn how to dance.

All the 7th and 8th graders at our school go to a dance school each fall to learn how to dance (waltz, tango, foxtrot, etc). It's a once a week thing, afterschool. Coordinated through, but not sponsored by the school. Suits/ties for boys, dresses and white gloves for girls. Not terribly expensive, either, and the cost is covered for those that can't afford it.

Gives them a background in dance moves. Doesn't keep them from dirty dancing, but it gives them an idea of how the heck to move on the dance floor. Without that, they'd probably all be dirty dancing, lol.

[MineralMan]

21. When I was in junior high in 1957, one day a week in

PE class was dancing instruction. It was great, although a lot of the boys hated it. I decided that dancing was a good way to get close to girls, so I paid attention and learned how to do it. It worked out just great.

[Odin2005]

9. Stupid fucking prudes.

[seabeyond]

11. cause really, a girl on all four and a guy simulating fucking from behind is.... dancing.

rollin eyes

fuckin prudes

wait... or her on her knees, his crotch in face, pretending to be sucking dick as hip gyrate

just fuckin dancin

[Odin2005]

13. People were similarly scandalized by "suggestive" dancing in the 50s.

Just patronizing "kids these days" nonsense.

[seabeyond]

16. .

[Taitertots]

20. Do you honestly think "suggestive" dancing of the 50's is comparable to dirty dancing today?

Because Elvis was dry humping girls faces and dry humping them as they bent over in front of him.

You must have not seen dancing from today, or the 50's.

[Odin2005]

26. Who cares?

Let them do it, they will be laughing at themselves about it when they get older.

Oh, and our society needs to quit being so hung up on sex. :eyes:

[seabeyond]

31. ya. with all this hangup with sex, we cannot find it ANYWHERE in our society

it is so hidden and covered up.

[Odin2005]

44. Our society is highly spit-brained when it comes to sexuality.

Teens are bombarded with sexual images in the media, but yet in everyday society people are really hung up about sex. The stereotype is the hick dad that threatens to shoot a BF if he has sex with his 16yo daughter.

[seabeyond]

48. two extremes, both do damage. we acknowledge one extreme

we focus on one extreme. we challenge one extreme

on du

two extremes

the obsessiveness.... sex all the time, everywhere, no boundaries....

the sex is a sin, abstinence.

both are unhealthy

[Taitertots]

93. A good parent would

Who is talking about sex? I'm talking about dry humping to music being passed off as dancing.

Those hangups you claim other people have go to the other extreme as well. Thinking children should be allowed to dry hump each other sounds like a pretty big hang up to me. As opposed to actually building relationships and having sex, something that is totally reasonable.

[blueamy66]

97. I'm with ya...

what is this "dancing" these days?

[PeaceNikki]

59. Agree 100%

[Recovered Repug]

10. So what's the penalty for putting Baby in the corner? nt

[AzNick]

12. Meanwhile, teen comedies get raunchier...

Superbad, Sex Drive, Harold and Kumar (and the infamous bottomless pool party)...

[erinlough]

14. Here is my take as a chaperon for the last 36 years.

You are a class sponsor and are chaperoning the dance and the other chaperons are volunteer parents. The kids start dancing and inevitably one of the parents is incensed at how immoral the kids are dancing. If you ignore it, even though the rest of the parents don't see a problem, That parent will complain loudly to all of her friends that Mr. _________ did nothing to stop it! So, you try to come up with a way to let students have fun, but appease the loudest, most conservative, parent and their support group, usually a church in my area. It is funny to me that the most opinionated parents I have ever encountered are in their mid thirties to early forties. Yoo Hoo parents, I also taught you.......remember head-banging, glam rock, black clothes, drugs????? I remember you. When did you get so conservative?

[liberal N proud]

15. There lies the hypocrisy

Many of these parents were most likely bumping and grinding in the 80's & 90's.

[TexasObserver]

18. It's the Tyranny of the Tight Asses!

In any event, the tightest ass there will control the level of indignation for allegedly "moral" reasons.

Of course, it's really the biggest hypocrite who is the tighest ass at any event.

"I swear, I'm gettin' the vapors from all this embar-sin dancin'!"

[pinboy3niner]

17. Maybe they should just stop playing Barry White

:evilgrin:

[HuckleB]

98. I don't think they'd know what to do if they played Barry White. -eom-

[Taitertots]

19. Kids shouldn't be dry humping each other at school dances

It is perverted that anyone would think it is acceptable.

[Doremus]

22. I think you just like typing the words 'dry humping'

:evilgrin:

[WestSeattle2]

24. You'd be hard-pressed, no pun intended, to find anyone more

libertarian when it comes to sex than me. That said, I believe simulated sex acts on the dance floor of a public school event crosses the line. The kids who enjoy that should do it off school property - end of controversy. I'm sure many kids are not allowed to attend school dances just because of that behavior, which is a shame. School dances are for everyone. If incorporating simulated sex acts into dancing is cool with some parents, they should open a private dance club.

[immoderate]

47. All dancing is simulated sex.

Some of the dancers know it, some don't. How do you codify what you can and can't do? OK to move feet, but not hips? Lateral, but not axial? No getting on knees? Ever see Zorba? Sexual? Is the Tango too hot?

Kids will always test the limits with the previous generation, some of whom can be counted on to react hypocritically. Students should be taught other, perhaps less graphic moves, to give them some choices. If they get too hot, maybe a cool down area. But I wouldn't throw them out. They certainly should be told what's appropriate for school events, but be aware, this is a parting shot. At my high school graduation rehearsal, they had us march out to the "Marine's Hymn." And they very clearly told us several times, "Do not sing!" Now what do you think we did?

--imm

[seabeyond]

51. we are a clever enough people to recognize a girl on all four being fucked behind is not dancing

and it is arguments like yours that make schools have to spell it out like this school

it is stupid that the school has to spell it out

but then with people (kids) coming up with this arguemtn, they now have to

then we have a board like du say.... look at these prudes.

it is just dancing. all kids do it. generation after generation.....

[immoderate]

65. Maybe I'm not that clever. I'm a dancer.

It's hard to tell from your post whether you are referring to real sex where penetration is taking place, or a simulation. Or does that distinction pose no difference to you?

I think schools should spell it out, but maybe deal with it differently. We are probably in agreement that actual sexual intercourse on the dance floor is "over the line" even for liberals like myself.

--imm

[seabeyond]

67. Students Fouling High School Dance Floors with Their "Bodily Fluids"

here is the head line with one highschools

maybe that might be our line, i dunno.....

[immoderate]

78. Saw that.

Apparently, they fixed the problem with some management.

They never identified the bodily fluids. Someone mentioned spit. But maybe they were jerking off. That's inappropriate for a school dance. They should do that somewhere else. You seem shocked that teen age kids are sexual. I think most of them are. It's always been like that. Should we neuter them? :shrug:

--imm

[seabeyond]

79. do i really seem shocked? is that really what you get out of my posts

that i am shocked that kids have sex?

maybe you ought not be so naive

[immoderate]

82. You're not shocked? OK, I stand corrected.

Never mind, then.

--imm

[Odin2005]

71. She doesn't seem to understand the difference.

It's all "fucking" to her.

[seabeyond]

73. i know enough about fucking to recognize sperm on the dance floor isnt dancing.....

it becomes slippin and slidin

[Odin2005]

76. Simulated sex does not lead to bodily fluids on the floor.

:eyes:

[seabeyond]

77. bah hahahah. they are kids. they have not learned about going thru the baseball line up.

http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Students-Fouling-High-School-Dance-Floors-with-Their-Bodily-Fluids-Dirty-Dancing-2624916.html

[Odin2005]

80. Oh, wow, once incident. MORAL PANIC everyone!

:eyes:

[thelordofhell]

83. The song almost writes itself

Get yo' sperm on the dance flo'---YOOOOOO!!
Get yo' sperm on the dance flo'---YOOOOOO!!
Get yo' sperm on the dance flo'---YOOOOOO!!
Get yo' sperm on the dance flo'

Get it goin' on
Getcha freakin' on
gonna leave it on
'till the break 'o dawn

Everybody leave the sticky stuff Uhhh
The white gellin', illin' sticky stuff Uhhh
Everybody can't get enough Uhhh
Of the baby daddy sticky stuff Uhhh

AAAAAAAAAAA

(Repeat Chorus)



Copyright 2010 stupidrapmusic

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[Odin2005]

27. Such anti-sex moralism belongs on Free Republic, not on a Progressive site.

These are not "kids", they are teens, young adults.

[WinkyDink]

29. Well, maybe they should just quit playing at being a dependent on Mom and Dad, and leave school, too

[JerseygirlCT]

40. They *are* still kids

And they still live with parents for a reason. They may be biologically adult, but they are not emotionally or socially ready to deal with what their hormones are drawing them into. The adults in their lives are there to guide them, not to be "cool" by allowing them to do whatever they think they want to do.

It's not anti-sex to think that teenagers are much better off waiting until the rest of them has caught up to the hormones. Sex has consequences: physical, emotional, social - kids don't often want to see that, and are not always ready to bear those consequences.

[Odin2005]

42. I have always thought that notion was nonsense, if people were too mentally immature...

...to have sex at 16 we would not have evolved to become sexually mature at 14. In most traditional societies you are considered an adult at 14 or 15. I consider Sr. High age teens to be young adults, not children. The infantilizing of teens (and even college-age people, helicopter parenting and all the BS), is ridiculous.

Moving out when you are 18 is a wholly western phenomenon, most societies have multi-generational homes.

[JerseygirlCT]

46. That's the society we live in.

Is biology the all of it? Is biology destiny?

I don't know if you have kids, or work with them. I'm a parent - one is in his very early 20s now, one is just on the cusp of being a teen. I've BTDT for real. There are pressures on kids to "grow up" too fast - not in responsibility, mind you, but sexually. They're messing with fire, most often. And there is nothing wrong at all with giving them the space to make those choices with thoughtfulness, not peer pressure and hormones.

I told my son that if he decided to have sex, he'd best be ready to be a father. Because stuff happens. And he'd better be ready to handle the situation emotionally - both his own and his partner's emotions. It's not a decision to be made without consideration and thoughtfulness.

[Odin2005]

52. I have no kids, but I, like all adults, was a teen once.

I first had sex at 15, she was 14. Nothing bad happened to us and we were not messed up by it, we were not 'emotionally traumatized" or whatever the popular psychobabble is that is, IMO, reactionary "wait before marriage" ideology though the back door.

[seabeyond]

55. did ya do it on the park bench? nt

[Odin2005]

56. No, but were pretty raunchy at HS dances.

:eyes:

[seabeyond]

68. there is no reason highschool should not be considered "public"

maybe that is where a kid lacks understanding. and need help from school to be educated on exactly what "public" is.

[JerseygirlCT]

84. You might have had a problem

I imagine, if she had found herself pregnant. Or despairing when your relationship ended. Or sick. Do you think at 15 you were ready to deal with those eventualities on your own?

I know I wasn't.

I'm also guessing, but this relationship wasn't consummated under the eyes of the adults in your lives, was it?

[NashVegas]

102. Who's Even To Say It's Hormones, When You're Talking About 7 Year Olds

It's all play.

Normalizing it publicly, as some people are trying to do, brings us into "Brave New World" territory, as someone else in this thread pointed out.

Privately, parents should be explaining to their kids that it's inappropriate; unfortunately, most of those who understand *why* it's inappropriate are too freaked out by the behavior to be rational about it and not bring in their own baggage.

I won't be surprised, I might even be relieved, if and when the internet starts getting more censored in some areas. It's not just this, it's all kinds of corruption-for-profit. Too many people are working too hard to normalize behavior that's societally destructive, and too many of those who understand why it's destructive are hiding in their ivory towers.

[JerseygirlCT]

103. It absolutely comes down to the parents

But there's not much you can do when other parents either don't or won't talk to their kids about these things...

And yes, the sexualization - especially of little girls - is getting really creepy.

[NashVegas]

41. Who Died and Named You Dr. Ruth?

Or Skinner, Earl or Elad, for that matter?

[Odin2005]

43. sex prudishness is not progressive.

[theHandpuppet]

105. Apparently basic manners and respect aren't "progressive" either

:eyes:

[KittyWampus]

58. funny how easily some DU'ers switch from "they're just KIDS" to "but they're young ADULTS" when it

suits their argument.

[NashVegas]

101. Haha

Yeah, true.

[uncommon]

107. They ARE kids - they are NOT adults. They should not be treated like adults. A young adult, imo,

is between ages 18 and about 24.

These are children at a school sponsored, chaperoned event - they should show some level of decorum. This is something we have taught our kids for eons.

There is a way to act in public, and this isn't it.

[Lucian]

62. It's not perverted.

The kids are going to do it anyways, so why not let them?

Fuck I hate puritans.

[Taitertots]

94. Your argument is irrational

They are going to have sex anyway? Should they be allowed to have sex during school events?
Many are going to drink alcohol. Should they be allowed to binge drink during school events?

"The kids are going to do it anyways, so why not let them?"
The basis of your position is meaningless.

[JerseygirlCT]

104. Kids are going to want to do any number of stupid things

Would you be more content if parents didn't exist?

[MineralMan]

23. My high school days were from 1959-63. There was lots of

rubbing of parts together during the slow dances back then. Chaperones used to come around and tell us to "break it up." Then, they'd go away and we'd resume our mating rituals. Now that I'm old and feeble, I remember it all too well. :rofl:

[WinkyDink]

28. Really? You think a SCHOOL needs to allow this behavior? In loco parentis: check into it.

[MindPilot]

32. In my high school days nobody cool enough to actually have sex and do drugs

would be caught dead at a school dance. School dances were just a clique-building exercise for the socialites and jocks.

[JVS]

33. I think there only needs to be one rule: requests to cut in are to be respected.

[dionysus]

34. .

:rofl:

[seabeyond]

35. so as one guy is fucking her from behind, another guy can simply tap the shoulder

and get his turn?

[JVS]

37. The possibility of such a thing happening would likely alter the teens' perception of what...

kind of dancing is appropriate.

[seabeyond]

38. lol, maybe, but then again.... maybe not.

so many different places i could take this.

[KittyWampus]

60. you literally made me LOL!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

36. "We remarked with pain that the indecent foreign dance called the Waltz....

"We remarked with pain that the indecent foreign dance called the Waltz was introduced (we believe for the first time) at the English court on Friday last ... it is quite sufficient to cast one's eyes on the voluptuous intertwining of the limbs and close compressure on the bodies in their dance, to see that it is indeed far removed from the modest reserve which has hitherto been considered distinctive of English females. So long as this obscene display was confined to prostitutes and adulteresses, we did not think it deserving of notice; but now that it is attempted to be forced on the respectable classes of society by the civil examples of their superiors, we feel it a duty to warn every parent against exposing his daughter to so fatal a contagion." - July, 1816

[immoderate]

57. Excellent! I said above, "all dancing is simulated sex."

Think of the tight asses in history that condemned the Tango, Lambada, Jitterbug, Twist, Charleston. The ballet was the soft porn of the 19th century.

--imm

[KittyWampus]

63. None of those dances was literally dry humping.

[immoderate]

69. Right. We saved that for the "slow dance."

Discovered that in the 6th grade. :)

--imm

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

72. Every generation finds it shocking that their children love shocking their parents.

And, (gasp!) enjoy sex.

[Odin2005]

75. Yup.

:banghead:

[Lucian]

61. If they have to leave, then that's a good opportunity to fuck.

Geez, these people are stupid.

[seabeyond]

70. if they want to fuck.... they can leave. geez the sex obsessed stupid. nt

[seabeyond]

66. i am not good at googlin. here is the first one i came to on google. argue just dancing, watch

http://tv.gawker.com/5549754/kids-gone-wild-dirty-dancing-video-will-shock-awe-and-nauseate

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/875745/

Students Fouling High School Dance Floors with Their "Bodily Fluids"

http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Students-Fouling-High-School-Dance-Floors-with-Their-Bodily-Fluids-Dirty-Dancing-2624916.html

______________________-

ok, just bad at finding this shit. i hvae seen videos in past. cant find them. horrible at googlin

[zalinda]

91. Did anyone actually go to the above link?

These are young, like 5 to 8 year olds "dancing". This wasn't dance by any stretch of the imagination. This was fucking with your clothes on, by little kids. And before you think this is innocent fun, take a look at the longer video on this page http://tv.gawker.com/5549754/kids-gone-wild-dirty-dancing-video-will-shock-awe-and-nauseate adults were getting into the act.

I could see pedophiles getting really turned on by this stuff. Where would the line be? Would the kids even know? This is disturbing on so many levels.

zalinda

[Odin2005]

74. The school probably agrees with this RW garbage:

"Pot Smoking Radicals Are Using the Internet to Turn America Into a Socialist Sex Utopia" :rofl:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9286224

[proud2BlibKansan]

81. I'd be the kid who deliberately tried to lose my bracelet

Just sayin ... :evilgrin:

[Lucian]

85. So would I.

But of course, I'm a social deviant.

[Name removed]

86. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[TexasObserver]

87. This would make a great film. Maybe call it FOOTLOOSE!

[SoCalDem]

88. Maybe the time for "school dances" has just jumped the shark

School dances used to be events that allowed kids to meet & greet in a safe place. Kids did not always have access to cars and in many communities kids were not allowed to date until they were 16 , so a a school dance gave them an excuse to have a "date" that Mom & Dad would have a hard time saying NO to, since it was a school event.

Kids in times-past were not as overtly sexual with each other. There was always sex going on, but it was more private.. When I was in high school (at the height of the sexual revolution) hand-holding at school was still a principal-worthy offense.

[frogmarch]

89. What prudes. I see nothing

wrong with kids dancing dirty.

Actually, I do.

Video:

http://www.parentfail.com/kids-dirty-dancing/

[seabeyond]

90. ya, isnt it a hoot watching parents laughing at their little 6 yr old simulating screwin. nt

[uppityperson]

92. Indeed. Here's a vid for you. Parents seem ok with it. Love the sneakers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg_ruv8s8xc

[pipi_k]

95. I don't see anything sexual about belly dancing really

Done by this child, it's a little jerky and awkward.

Done by an adult, it's sensual as opposed to being sexual


Plus it's a solitary dance. Not the same as two people simulating a sex act.

[uppityperson]

96. Ever seen Fat Chance Belly Dance?

It isn't always solitary and, unfortunately, many see it as OMG sexual!!!1111 vs sensual.

I do like this kid.

[donco6]

100. I've chaperoned a lot of dances in 15 years.

And things can and do get out of hand if you don't keep an eye on it. We had one kid with both hands down the back of his girlfriends' skirt at Homecoming, dancing in the middle of the floor. He got a "Ok, Chris, hands over the clothes, please." No more problems that night.

But the dancing is certainly way more . . . suggestive than when I was in school in the late 70s. If you get a chance, help out sometime and you can see for yourself. It's not the "Dirty Dancing" movie - lol! That's Lawrence Welk in comparison. This is pretty much sex with clothes on. We've had girls slither down to their partner's crotch and . . . well, that got a warning, too. If that's prudish, I guess I'm a prude. But I have to be in loco parentis - and somehow I don't think either one of them has a parent who would think that was OK at school.

[uncommon]

106. Well the school should be encouraging classy behavior - but kicking them out seems like

a bad idea unless they are calling their parents to pick them up.

[uncommon]

108. The story you cited doesn't give nearly enough information for us to know if this

is reasonable or not. If these kids are doing the kind of "dancing" I see in adult clubs, then this is reasonable. If this is a "leave room for the Holy Ghost" situation, then it isn't reasonable.