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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:12 PM
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What a different world if John Lennon had lived....
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 11:19 PM by FirstLight
I am 40, so i was only a few years old when he appeared on Dick Cavett in 71 and 74(?)

watching him and yoko now on you tube.. I miss him *so* much! I let my kids listen to Imagine and Wheels... to give them the idea of what he was becoming...and Love, and Woman... the honoring, the consciousness he would have brung to the common thought process.
wouldn't it be amazing if he had lived and been a contemporary advocate for peace?
Shirley maclaine is on too...wow

I wish i had been of voting age back then...even though i know we have a more progressive chance NOW as ever before...I wish we had done this work back THEN...

30 years too late john, if it ever happens...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhDerV5QjTo&feature=related


i'm so sorry...
hope we can change it NOW...before it is too late
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:16 PM
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1. the song at 8:30 "woman is the nigger of the world"
endorsed by Ron Dellums (d-ca)


...wow...amazingly progressive for this time in history...
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:20 PM
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2. God/dess reast his wonderful soul
I wish the best for Yoko who was the love of his life.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:24 PM
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3. stop it!
:cry: watching them play together....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M52Jzlvj4qM&feature=related


interview begins again at4:26...

ahhh, luv :loveya:
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:31 PM
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4. okay, i have to admit...
Edited on Sat Oct-09-10 11:32 PM by FirstLight
i've never heard Yoko 'sing' before...certainly John was the, uh, talented one.... ;)

great lyrics tho :rock:
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-09-10 11:46 PM
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5. Let's reel in folks. He was a gifted musician and advocate. Not Jesus or Buddha.
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left coaster Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:05 AM
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10. Yes, I agree.. he was a talented musical artist, but just a human being..
..and, like all human beings, he had both good and bad qualities.. By his own admission, John described himself as a mental and physical abuser of women in his younger days.. to his credit, though, he did become a public voice for peace and tolerance later on in his life..
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:08 AM
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11. I find his interview in Sept 1980 very interesting...
He said that if he were dead, everyone would be saying how great he was...
interseting...
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:14 AM
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13. And a strong supporter of women's rights
Human rights.
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meowomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:11 AM
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12. Dear cynical one,
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 01:13 AM by meowomon
Imagine if only he'd have lived. Imagine that the "bed in for peace" had taken place before the build-up for war with Iraq? Imagine if his voice were still around to sing songs about his beautiful boy. Or that we can live in peace. Imagine any other man singing about how woman is the "n!@@er" of the world. Imagine if we all just gave peace a chance. Imagine if only violence hadn't taken this talented and wise man from us. Imagine that.

He was a great inspiration to me and along with Jesus, his politics, spirituality and activism led me to the world vision I have now.

So, no he didn't do miracles of great proportions, but he did help create a miracle in my life. His words were there to inspire me and teach me. He was able to transform his life from a self absorbed rock musician to a man who lived for peace and justice. He, with the help of his soul mate Yoko, inspired a generation of hippies and activists. Imagine.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 10:33 AM
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18. +100!
beautifilly said thanks for 'getting it'


I really would have loved to have seen his response to sept 11, especially being a new yorker. He would not have been silent about the wrongness of these wars...
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Cetacea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 08:36 AM
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15. It's ok if you don't get it. n/t
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The Uncola Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 08:59 AM
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16. John Lennon had far more influence...
... on me than any of the fictional characters in "holy" books ever did.


~~" ..and I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
and the world can live as one."
~~
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:24 AM
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6. Maybe not a buddha... but
he held a lot of the spiritual and human advocacy beliefs that progressives today aspire to hold.
he really lived it... and could have been a strong advocate for the love/peace movement


forgive me for being sentimental, but I can't help looking back 30 yrs or sio and seeing Carter, Brown, and other "peacaniks' vilified...

it sucks...because people with such a strong influence as lennon were cut down before they reached full potential..

we should all think about that..what can WE do...?
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:31 AM
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7. Of course I wish he had lived and he would have spoken out against war, etc, but...
I doubt the world would have been substantially different had John Lennon lived. After all, he didn't prevent Vietnam, MLK or RFK assassinations, Watergate or the election of Ronald Reagan.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:47 AM
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8. i know...
but can you let me wax poetic tnight at least...?

Imagine...
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lunamagica Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:32 PM
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19. I've always found funny that in the Playboy interview he made no mention of Reagan
or the election...none at all. In that interview he made it clear that he was done with fundraisers, etc. He seemed to have become totally apolitical (which was his right). Also his album had absolutely no political slant. I think he made it all clear in "Watching the Wheels"

All the people who like to think he'd be involved in fixing messes in the world are just projecting their wishes onto him. He didn't give any indication he wanted to get involved anymore. If anything, he seemed annoyed with those that expected more activism from him.
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FirstLight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 12:53 AM
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9. kick.... for the
Dreamers....
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 01:51 AM
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14. Not so sure the world would be so different
But it damn sure would be a much better world if he were still in it.

Miss, miss, miss him :-(
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 09:06 AM
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17. I miss him too, but I don't believe it would have made much difference if he'd lived.
The music would be a little richer, but the politics would be about the same.
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