Proof Obama Goes to DC and turns into a Freakin Centrist

[democracy1st]

He's responsible for all his conservative,centrist,Goldman Sachs hack jobs.


Government had been warned for months about troubles in mortgage servicer industry


Consumer advocates and lawyers warned federal officials in recent years that the U.S. foreclosure system was designed to seize people's homes as fast as possible, often without regard to the rights of homeowners.

In recent days, amid reports that major lenders have used improper procedures and fraudulent paperwork to seize properties, some Obama administration officials have acknowledged they had been aware of flaws in how the mortgage industry pursues foreclosures.

But the officials said they could take only limited action to address the danger. In part, this was because they wanted lenders' help carrying out federal programs to modify mortgages that had fallen into default or were poised to do so.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/10/09/AR2010100904125.html

[Zax2me]

1. Rec for your post but I don't agree

Don't agree that Obama turned into a centrist.
Rec because he does have to answer to not his base but everyone that voted him into office. He ran on a progressive agenda that so far has many shortfalls.

But I believe he is a reasonable man of sound principal and isn't sacrificing his values as a progressive for personal gain, profit, or just phoning it in, taking the path of least resistance.
What is slowing his pace? Why do many things appear status quo? I don't know, maybe it isn't any one thing. Inherited a mess, constant rep opposition standing in his way, global financial problems slowing progress, and even fellow dems waffling on this or that issue. Additionally he didn't have a lot of experience generally speaking, heading into office. He is a young guy.
I'd vote for him again and don't believe he is a centrist, but looking for much better results, real change in the months ahead?
Sure, no doubt. Anxiously so, with watchdog fervor.

[WVRICK13]

3. I Agree He Hasn't

turned into a centrist. He was always slightly right of center. I voted for Hillary in the primaries and Obama in the regular election because he was the better of the choices. Unfortunately, the center has been reset. What is now center used to be the right and the old center position is considered radical leftist. Before the reset I was a radical leftist so I guess I am totally off the charts now. The change has been gradual. Much in the same way we don't see ourselves aging in the mirror we fail to noticed subtle changes in the political structure. The real test is to look at politics 20 years ago compared to today, the difference is astounding. We have adjusted to being right of center and we now fight to maintain that right of center position.

[Motown_Johnny]

4. you think he was always right of center? and now you complain that he turned into a centrist?

wouldn't that be a move to the left for him and therefore be something to be happy about?



I think he was always a left leaning moderate, that is why I supported him in the primaries.

[NYC Liberal]

10. Good point!

"you think he was always right of center? and now you complain that he turned into a centrist? wouldn't that be a move to the left for him and therefore be something to be happy about?"

In fact, he has always been left of center though. Maybe not as much as some here want him to be, but just because you're to the left of a candidate doesn't make that candidate "conservative."

[WVRICK13]

25. Once Again

You didn't read my post. I said I agree he hasn't turned into a centrist.

[WVRICK13]

24. Read My Post Again

I said he hasn't turned into a centrist. See you have had your scale reset. You think he is left of center and that is really frightening. How many other Democrats now rally to get us to a center that used to be Republican?

[pnwmom]

2. So Obama was holding off on going after the mortgage industry

while he worked to get them to agree on measures that would help millions of struggling homeowners keep their houses.

How awful. What a centrist.

:sarcasm:

[seabeyond]

5. serious? did you listen to his campaign. he is no different than campaign. cluein...

hillary was no different.

those were our choices.

trying to think who ran that was left

had a little more in kerry. but not seeing a left candidate in all the people last election

[democracy1st]

13. you're telling a outright lie!

[seabeyond]

21. no. i can remember during primary i was saying this was gonna happen on du. nt

[sabrina 1]

19. Really? I think it is you who needs to go back and take a look

at what he campaigned, quite passionately on.

1)Offshore drilling. Attacked McCain for supporting it in debates.

2) Mandated Insurance. Attacked Hillary and McCain for supporting it.

3) Deficit Commission. Mocked McCain for suggesting Commissions, calling them a 'stealth way to bypass Congress and that he would never use them, but do everything out in the open.

4) Repeal DADT.

5) Close Guantanamo Bay

6) Education. Promised teachers he 'would be on their side'. Need I say more?

7) Would protect SS from Republican attempts to cut benefits and privatise it. Now rumored to have made a deal on SS cuts in exchange for Tax cuts for the wealthy, but AFTER the election.

8) Restore the rule of law, instead has gone further than Bush claiming 'state secrets' protection and ordering assassinations of U.S. citizens without trial or conviction.

I could go on, but he sure sounded like a real Democrat in the Campaign, especially compared to McCain and Hillary, which is why I supported him over Hillary, based on 'Mandated (Romneycare) Insurance and Commissions to avoid Congressional revue.

What happened to change his mind on so many of the issues he campaigned on? HE says 'my thinking has evolved'. What do you say?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

6. "Turns into a Centrist"? What is it going to take for us to accept that Obama was NEVER

a Leftie?!?! He is not and never was a liberal. Why the shock?

Stop projecting on this man what you what him to be. HE NEVER WAS!!

[seabeyond]

7. i guess it is buying into the repugs saying he is the MOST flamin liberal ever. wait, socialist

no, communist. oh oh.... marxist

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

9. Exactly! We have to stop projecting onto him. The Righties do such a phenomenal

job of getting us to believe their bullshit. He never was liberal. Even his record as a state senator proved that.

[democracy1st]

12. I'm not going to make a list on what he ran on to win the election!

you can make that comparison yourself.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

15. Despite what he ran on, the bottom line is that it is your fault if you

didn't go beyond the rhetoric and studied the man's record. Maybe it's because I live in D.C. I don't take anything anyone says at face value. I don't make voting decisions based on campaign rhetoric. I must prefer to rely on the actual record.

As besides, he told you that he supports charter schools. He told you that he was going to Afghanistan. These positions don't necessarily reflect someone who's liberal. That's why I supported Kucinich. Obama was never running as a liberal. Just because he was *slightly* to the left of Hilary Clinton, doesn't make him liberal. And just because he may have told you that he supported several progressive ideas, it doesn't mean that he was/is a liberal.

Again, it's your mistake if you couldn't see beyond the clouds before you voted for him. You can't get mad now. He's still miles above his former competition, and I will vote for him again and again...

[democracy1st]

14. You quit projecting it's not whether or not people want him to be left of center,it's about what

approach toward solving problems should be taken. If you're happy with the way this admin has handled the foreclosure mess then good for you.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

17. Your "logic" doesn't make sense. Because he's not the liberal that you wanted him to be,

it's somehow MY fault and I'm projecting onto you and others?

The bottom line is that it is your responsibility to know what these candidates stand for. If you got confused then it is YOUR fault, not mine.

For some reason, it is very difficult for many--not most--liberals to accept who Barack Obama is. He is not and never was a liberal. Sorry, but he wasn't. Attacking me won't change this fact.

[democracy1st]

18. Who has said they want him to be a liberal ? What has been said is that many of the problems

facing the nation right now doesn't need a conservative/centrist/corp approach.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

22. Now *that* I do agree with you on, but too many of us are angry

for the very reason that I stated. Much of that anger is legitimate, but I still believe that the guy told us exactly who he was. Very little difference between him and the Democratic Leadership Council, which amazes me when people now assert that they should have voted for Hillary. Hillary is to the right of him. But there's very little difference between the two. He's merely continuing many of Bill Clinton's DLC policies. For some reason, that just doesn't surprise me.

[QC]

8. He was always a centrist, at best.

The Cesar Chavez slogans and other progressive trappings might have convinced some people otherwise, but anyone who paid close attention knew that Obama was no liberal.

[Greyhound]

11. K&R for another "nobody could've predicted" event.

[VMI Dem]

16. Meh. The man has always been a centrist.

[LWolf]

20. He was center-right when he was nominated. nt

[alfredo]

23. Bush's "Ownership Society" was taken to mean that we

the people would own a stake in society by being home owners. Little did we know that it actually meant we were owned by the banks.