Do you think Corporate America is keeping unemployment high to hurt Obama and Democrats?

[DainBramaged]

A simple question. Only two answers. Except for kitteh...... makes three......

[sakabatou]

1. Possible, but I'm unsure

[applegrove]

34. Me too. I can't be sure. But one thing for sure...if 500 people at the top of corporations

conspired to keep a recession going then they should face rico laws.

[NNN0LHI]

2. We have DUers bragging about the imported cars they just bought around here

And then they wonder why President Obama hasn't created a job for their kids yet?

I'd say that has a lot to do with it.

Don

[Catshrink]

5. Where are the "imported cars" made?

Don't foreign car companies have plants here in the states?

[NNN0LHI]

8. Do you belong to a union?

Want me to support your union?

Don

[Catshrink]

15. I wasn't talking about unions.

Why do you bring that up?

[NNN0LHI]

31. Pretty simple why I brought it up

Because if someone chooses to not support the union I am a member of there will be little or no chance that I will support the union they belong to.

You needed to have that explained to you?

Don

[Catshrink]

33. Fine...

but I wasn't talking about unions. I don't know why you brought unions into this discussion.

[DainBramaged]

9. Do you know what percentage of Toyota's are imported?

In 2006 before they ramped up hybrid production, 46% of their vehicles were imported from Japan. Now I'll let you find which vehicles (other than the Camry which is made here) were imported.

[DainBramaged]

6. Good point.....

[RandomThoughts]

3. To answer that question.

Ask from the perspective of motive, what would profit motive dictate they do, if they felt they had a way to influence an election?

[Pathwalker]

7. CEOs admit it daily on CNBC, even brag about it.

They demand even more deregulation, and insist that only Repukes will help them in this effort. They're not exactly hiding their actions, their reasons, or their motives. They all laugh about it, in fact.

[DainBramaged]

10. That wasn't my question, a simple yes or no.

You want to micro-analyze my question, start another thread.

[RandomThoughts]

23. I answered the question, but also with a thought concept

so you could think on the mechanics of the question from my view. To say yes or no would not add any thought that might also add a comment of how I think it works also.

Why would you care about a yes or no answer from me without an explanation? Why would it mean anything?

[DainBramaged]

29. Though mechanics, is that like brain tuners?

:eyes:

[Greyhound]

4. No, they want unemployment high for the same reason as always.

To hurt workers, and thereby, further enrich themselves.

[stray cat]

11. Who exactly is Corporate America?

And how does that explain state deficits and public employee layoffs

Obama and democrats are throwing the election?

[leftstreet]

17. ^^ Good question ^^ How does that explain deficits & public emp layoffs

:shrug:

[Bitwit1234]

20. If you notice it is mostly red states laying off public employees.

[ThomWV]

24. "Corporate America" is the aggregate influence of all corporate interests on the political process

It is the representation of legal-creations as if they were living breathing human being and all the hell that representation has brought on the body politic.

[SoCalDem]

12. Do bears walk around with toilet paper stuck to their asses?

:rofl:

They even brag about it on tv..there is no shame attached to corporate treachery:grr:

[stray cat]

13. Union employees are doing great in South Africa -but an estimated 50% unemployment

For all workers nation wide? Is that due to Corpoarate America as well or the economy or unions

[rrneck]

14. No. They're keeping unemployment high to make money.

If they had their way all the work done in this country would be done by one guy: a fourth grader in China.

[Ozymanithrax]

16. They are using liquidity to pay off debt and buy back stock..

Because that is what is good for each individual companies bottom line. Kurgman tends to agree with this from an interview I heard on NPR.

This is about making the best decision for their owners/shareholders not about punishing Democrats. Make paying back debt and buying stock less fiscally attractive, and they will invest building their business by hiring people.

[moondust]

18. Did oil companies manipulate gas prices to advantage Bush?

And Reagan?

Some people think so.

It will be interesting to see if hiring picks up in the event that some Republican Tea Party candidates get elected and how it is explained away.

[old mark]

19. I believe a large percentage of it is deliberate to discredit the Democrats, Obama.

It seems few of the industries or financial institutiions are finding anything productive to do with the tons of profit thay are all making right now. The few companies that are really participating seem to be doing pretty well, but the economy is being dragged down deliberately, IMO.

mark

[rustydog]

21. Jumpin' Jesus Christ on a friggin crutch...NO!

It is about the almighty DOLLAR plain and simple. Fire people, do not replace them. You have saved millions in salary, benefits etc.

It is the 5.00 an hour slave overseas that makes it feasible for corporate america to kill the 20+ dollar an hour jobs with benefits in America, not a hatred of Obama.

they did the same fucking thing when Bush was the decider.

[GoCubsGo]

37. Yes, they DID do the same thing when Bush was the deciderer.

That's the point. He was the one who allowed them to do so. They want to continue to be able to do so. Have you been hearing any of the repugs' campaign commercials. Here, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM is campaigning for LESS REGULATION OF BUSINESSES--as if that will magically create jobs. Can't keep those horrible Democrats in office. It's their regulations that are stifling economic growth, dontcha know?

[nashville_brook]

22. absurd conspiracy theory that i've heard from Chamber-ites all week.

[TreasonousBastard]

25. Ridiculous! No company out there wants...

high unemployment, since it reduces their customer base. Their actions certainly affect employment, but that's not their goal. They bitch and moan about taxes and regulation all the time because that is what they do, not just because Democrats are in office.

Employees are hired when there is a job that needs to be done. That's all-- have something to do, hire someone to do it. The alternative some people seem to think is preferable is the old soviet style maximum employment where everyone has a job even it takes 30 people to clean one toilet.

Right now, nobody out there thinks there will be enough sales of whatever it is they make to go out and hire more people to make and sell more stuff. When they think there will be enough people buying, they will start making stuff and people will be hired.

And, besides the outsourcing that everyone's complaining about, domestic productivity is sky high thanks to all sorts of efficiencies in everything from manufacturing to warehousing and sales. It just takes a lot less people to make and sell stuff now than it used to.

[DainBramaged]

41. You all have the answers, yet, none of you sit on any corporate board

so you have ZERO first-hand knowledge of anything you speak of, only opinion.

[kentuck]

26. I think that is partly the reason...

after they found out they could buy other companies and make money on the stock market without having to sell anything or having to hire anyone...

[DainBramaged]

36. Another good point, and those layoffs are getting absurd...

[LWolf]

27. No. I think they are taking advantage of the fact that,

under a Democratic President, Democrats won't oppose them as strongly when that Democratic president is a neoliberal whose politics benefit them.

[bigwillq]

28. No (nt)

[JackRiddler]

30. No. It's capitalism. But...

They are pouring tens of millions of dollars into attack ads against Obama and the Democrats.

[RB TexLa]

32. No, companies are not hiring to save money because things could get worse or not

get better soon. I'm personally not spending money, no reason for a wise business to do so either.

[JVS]

35. No. They hire when they need work done, they fire when they need to cut costs.

There just isn't enough demand out there to motivate production.

[mmonk]

38. No. To keep their stock prices high.

That's what they do when demand is low.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

39. No, of course not, don't be so silly.

Do you really believe that a company making hiring decisions is going to be motivated by adding or subtracting 10 from the unemployment figures rather than by hiring as many or as few employees as it needs/can afford?

If so, I think you're mad.

[DainBramaged]

40. "Don't be so silly"

what a childish comeback........ to simply brush aside a post because you think it's silly is even more absurd than the premise for your response.

And since you think I'm mad, we'll part not friends....

[Donald Ian Rankin]

42. I think giving posts like this a serious response does more harm than good.

I don't think a serious rebuttal would help here - it would just make it look as though the suggestion was worth taking seriously. Dismissal and ridicule is actually the most productive form of response to this kind of idiocy, sadly.

And since we've never met, never will, and the sum total of our lifetime interaction is a few anonymously-typed sentences on an internet discussion forum, of course we won't part friends - in a few hours I'll have almost forgotten you even exist, and if you have any sense you'll do the same to me and not let me spoil your day (although I hope you'll be marginally less likely to post threads like this one in future).

[DainBramaged]

43. Snotty prick

time to join the ignore list mate. I don't cotton to folks not living here telling us how to run our lives. Bugger off.

[Xenotime]

44. Yes since corporate amerika can't vote.

[butterfly77]

45. K&R!

YES..