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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:58 PM Original message |
No cost-of-living hike for Social Security again |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
1. And to think they dare to speak of tax cuts for the wealthy. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. But it's expensive to be rich and so cheap to be poor. |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. The wealthy are not getting an increase in SS either |
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Stargazer99 (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. For most of the wealthy SS amount will not make or break them |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
43. SS is pocket change to the wealthy. For the average elderly |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
52. Right. They are really going to miss it. You're just joking .... right? |
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demosincebirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. They have no shame! |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Did anyone get a raise over the last 2 years? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Not me. n/t |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Not only no raises but many got cuts in pay |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:11 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. No |
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discocrisco01 (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. I Did |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. You are right that only the Feds seem to have gotten raises. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. Yes, Wall St. CEOs, bailed out by the American people |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
5. COLA is based on CPI. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. They could give more one time stimulus checks to recipients |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Why? n/t |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:12 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Because the CPI is a manipulated statistic that fails to show real inflation |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Precisely |
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discocrisco01 (524 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. CPI |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. CPI includes both cost of energy and medical services. |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Thanks for setting the record straight. n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
50. Why not? They had no problem bailing out Wall St. and letting |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Not really. Congress can vote to give Social Security recipients a special cost-of-living payment |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
31. Which seems to be ignoring food price inflation! |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. Tell that to Congress. For two of the past four years, |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
18. This is not the surprise people are making it out to be. This was in |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I remember that, and I wondered how they can know the inflation that far out |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
20. Perception is everything. |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. So, are you saying |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Call it what you want, |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:53 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. And disabled people like myself who get SSI. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. If seniors and folks like yourself |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. +1 |
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Stargazer99 (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Don't you think it is about time to think about those |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Re-read my post. |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. This SS recipient is taking care of an adult unemployed son |
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corpseratemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. +millions of votes |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
22. That is considered okay here. No problem. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:08 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. The "I get along okay; screw those that can't" posts are reprehensible. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
51. Absolutely reprehensible. What has happened to this |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. If the CPI went up (and therefore SS checks went up), that just means each dollar of the check would |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I didn't say they hate them, I said many of them |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. The COLA increase would be 0, because the COL as defined by the CPI did not increase. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. the COL as defined by the CPI did not increase |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Why? |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. You dont shop, do you? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Hardly |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Take gasoline for example. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Easily debunked falsehood. energy, food, and medical services are ALL in CPI |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Your quoting the CPI-U, SS is based on the CPI-W |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Here (link to CPI-W) |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. We use the CPI-W to annually adjust benefits paid to Social Security beneficiaries |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. Yeah and notice CPI-W peak in 2008. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Are are you opposed to Congress voting for a special COLA increase for Social Security? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. There is something special about it. As you yourself point out |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. There is nothing special about this year. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. You are angry because Obama can't produce inflation??? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. Third year in a row, they have cut SS benefits, for no reason |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. What SS cuts? n/t |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
47. Refusing to give seniors a cost of living wage which they are |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. SS |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Nobody on SS is "entitled" to a raise. Nobody. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. SS benefits CAN be raised, and should be considering |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Couple points: |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. I know it wouldn't be a cola increase. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
42. What SS cuts. There has been no SS increase but there also has been no SS decrease. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Actually Medicare payments are taken out of SS, they have gone up. |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
53. There has been a decrease. Inflation has made those benefits |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 07:23 AM Response to Reply #53 |
77. Relative to two years ago there has been deflation. |
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dark forest (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
26. No offense to Obama |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Bad timing. Very bad timing. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:52 PM Response to Original message |
30. No COLA? Have they saw my fucking grocery bill? |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
36. For seniors like me it really does not matter. Every year I got the |
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Stargazer99 (943 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 06:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Thanks for enlightening the average person |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
69. Are you surprised? |
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BlueCheese (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-10-10 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
76. I generally agree... |
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