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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:33 AM
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Piers Morgan: I Want To Model Myself On O'Reilly And Beck

In an interview with the Post over the weekend, Morgan said that this strategy has guided him throughout his long and varied media career in Britain, where he was a tabloid editor and currently hosts another talk show.

Morgan said he wants to emulate the provocative--yet successful--model set by Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck:

"I just saw some survey that asked people which cable news anchor they liked the most," he says. "Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck were one and two. Then, there was a list of who people disliked the most -- Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck were the top of that list, too. That's when you know you're a success -- half the people love you and half think you're a douche bag."
Morgan takes over from departing host Larry King in January.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/11/piers-morgan-i-want-to-mo_n_758079.html

I certainly hope this isn't another right wing nutball on the air.

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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:35 AM
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1. self-delete. My bad. I believed Larry King.
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:50 AM by Pathwalker
With a sordid past.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:36 AM
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3. Ew, really?
I haven't heard that on the news. What suck.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:37 AM
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4. Wow, I didn't know that. He's replacing Larry King on CNN.
:puke:
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:42 AM
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6. self delete
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:49 AM by Pathwalker
My bad.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:46 AM
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9. Repeat: NEVER was:
Morgan married Marion Shalloe in July 1991 in Hampshire. They have three sons: Spencer William (born in 1993), Stanley Christopher (born in 1997) and Albert Douglas (Bertie) (born in 2000).<44> Morgan and Shalloe divorced in 2008. He was linked romantically to The Guardian columnist Marina Hyde, and his current wife is The Daily Telegraph's gossip columnist, Celia Walden,<45> who is the daughter of the former Conservative MP George Walden.<46>
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:45 AM
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8. NO, HE IS NOT. Never was. Once worked for RM. Links:
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:54 AM by WinkyDink
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:48 AM
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11. And his past is still sordid.
I corrected my earlier mistake - it was Larry King who said he was married to RM's daughter. Like it was a good thing. My bad for believing him. And he's still creepy.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:55 AM
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12. King is a lazy ignoramus. Piers began in tabloids; he doesn't exactly hide that fact.
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:56 AM by WinkyDink
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:59 AM
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13. O'Reilly began his career on a tabloid TV show. Can't remember
the name of it, but I remember him being one of the "journalist" covering Hollywood gossip and titillating crime stories.
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RockaFowler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 01:00 PM
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18. Inside Edition
Check out his flip-out on the show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tJjNVVwRCY

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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:36 AM
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2. beck sets a low bar
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:37 AM
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5. The Fux Ministry of Propaganda: you will think what we tell you to think - or else!
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:45 AM
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7. The deteriorization continues.
This man appears to be quite a punk, with very little actual experience in anything that would remotely resemble genuine journalism.

Probably not so much right wing nutball as classless, arrogant prick.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:14 PM
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15. "deterioration." And Piers has immense journalism bona fides. Moreover, he is not "right-wing."
DOESN'T ANYBODY HERE KNOW ABOUT GOOGLE??
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 03:36 PM
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23. "immense journalism bona fides" - no, but he isn't right wing
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 04:04 PM by muriel_volestrangler
Morgan's career in journalism has been controversial. He rose in UK tabloid newspapers in the showbiz gossip side - popular stories, pretty unreliable, but it doesn't really matter when they are. He became editor of the News of the World (UK Murdoch tabloid), then the Daily Mirror - a popular, leftish, tabloid. There, he was involved in a fraudulent share pushing scandal - he got the tips the paper was going to publish early, so he could buy them before his readers pushed up the price. Amazingly, he got off with no more than a slapped wrist.

Then he had to resign, when the Mirror published pictures supposedly showing British soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners, and it turned out they were faked (and many people had worked that out very quickly, indicating the paper hadn't tried to verify them). Since then, he has inexplicably become popular as an interviewer. He's smarmy and egotistical, but sucks up to the right people. His biggest coup was to get Gordon Brown to talk, and cry, about the death of his baby, on television.

His record in journalism might well be compared to Bill O'Reilly, but being on the left (or willing to be on the left - he did work for Murdoch too, after all). The one thing I will say for him is that he opposed the invasion of Iraq, and kept the Mirror saying so.

On edit: looking up O'Reilly's career, Morgan doesn't have as good a record as O'Reilly, after all. I didn't realise O'Reilly did quite a bit of serious journalism before 'Inside Edition'. And I doubt Morgan could ever have got a Master's degree in anything. Morgan is widely known as 'Piers Moron' for a reason.
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Guilded Lilly Donating Member (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:35 PM
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24. Yeah, Winky Dink
I did google him and have googled him in the past when he was an arrogant prick then as well.

I don't consider his background with UK tabloids as serious journalism. His dubious records abusing the powers given him in his tabloid editor positions make him an even more shady character. My definition of "bona fide" obviously isn't from the same dictionary as yours.

If your reading were as thorough as your capitalization skills you would notice I said he was not so much right wing as he was arrogant. That statement stands.

And I don't care if you quote my miss-spelling of the word deterioration.

He's a lousy replacement.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 11:47 AM
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10. so that's the standard? "Provocative yet successful?"
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 11:48 AM by provis99
Well, Goebbels was provocative, yet successful, too.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:11 PM
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14. More revealing quotes:
Edited on Mon Oct-11-10 12:16 PM by WinkyDink
~~"I'd love to do President Obama. I like what he's done to the reputation of America abroad, which I'm not sure many Americans fully understand...."
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/09/09/larry_king_replacement_piers_morgan_obama_has_increased_reputation_of_america.html

~~"chatting with Elisabeth Murdoch (“Tell your old man I’m taking him on again—and he’s going down!”),"
http://www.vogue.com/magazine/article/piers-morgan-the-man-who-would-be-king/

~~And the POINT of his comment, re: Beck, et al:
"For his part, Morgan insists that he won’t bring any political bias to CNN, and his own politics are much less clear cut than O’Reilly’s, with an enthusiasm, on the one hand, for Bill Clinton and, on the other, for Ronald Reagan. It’s not their politics he admires, Morgan says, but the fact they are “strong, charismatic, and polarizing.” (ibid.)

~~"he moved to the Daily Mirror, where he stayed for a decade and to which he gave a strong antiwar voice." (ibid.)
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:43 PM
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16. You left out his fake soldier photo scandal:
Link:http://www.fancast.com/people/Piers-Morgan/284940/biography/about

Morgan left News of the World in 1995 to become editor of an even bigger tabloid, The Daily Mirror, which became one of England's top-selling mass-market papers, due its highly sensationalized coverage of pop culture, politics and celebrities. Under Morgan's leadership, the paper ran numerous front-page stories denouncing the Iraq war and the presidency of George W. Bush. As an editor, Morgan made the headlines as often as he wrote them. He was widely criticized in 1996 for allowing the headline "Achtung! Surrender" one day before England's match with Germany in the semi-finals of the Euro '96 football championships. But the controversy did not end with that incident. In 2004, Morgan was held accountable and ultimately fired from his position when the paper featured fake photos of British soldiers abusing alleged Iraqi prisoners at an unknown location in Iraq. The Daily Mirror later issued a public apology and stated that the photos were the subject of a "calculated and malicious hoax." His sensationalist approach towards the news seemed to have taken a new turn in 2006 when he launched First News, a weekly paper that aimed to educate children about political and social issues in a language they could understand. While Morgan touted his new venture as "Britain's first national newspaper for children," others were not easily impressed and his propensity for infusing the paper with stories featuring celebrities did not help the matter.

It's even in his Wiki bio. Not gonna watch him.
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 01:07 PM
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19. Will not be on my watch list.
This will be a deterioration in quality for CNN. Surely they could have found someone better than this. Guess that's what they want.
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political_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 12:55 PM
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17. If he does, he will set a new low for television as well as political news.
I can't think of two worse people from the media to emulate.
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 02:24 PM
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20. Great line from Steven Fry: " The definition of 'countryside'?"
"That's killing Piers Morgan, isn't it?"
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 03:13 PM
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21. ROFL!!!
..(you have to think about it)..
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 03:21 PM
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22. CNN must want to stay at the bottom
as awful as LK is/was, at least he was never as bad as the two who inspire this new guy, whoever he is.. never heard of him, and will not watch him ( don't watch LK either...or CNN, for that matter)
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-11-10 10:38 PM
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25. So, he wants to completely jump the shark?
Larry may have had some issues about his style and depth, but he was no crackpot.

OOOOhh, boy!
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DemocraticPilgrim Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 01:00 AM
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26. I'm guessing he doesn't know why they are disliked, Morgan opposed Iraq.
Edited on Tue Oct-12-10 01:01 AM by DemocraticPilgrim
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