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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:19 PM Original message |
Transforming Columbus Day |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. For years Hawai'i called it "Discoverers' Day" |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. The "Discoverers" were the incredible voyagers who navigated the world's largest ocean |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. E ola mau ka 'olelo Hawai'i! |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm really glad you posted this. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. First Nation people and poor people are pretty much ignored by "liberals" altogether. |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. I went to the Sisters in Spirit vigil and march this year. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Could you please post an OP about that? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
3. this is a remembrance that really needs revamping. Columbus was looking for slaves. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. We anglos need to join with the Indians to protest this whole mess! |
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jaksavage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
4. Columbus was lost |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
32. Sometimes their generousity is mistaken. |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
6. Poppy Bush had 40% of Native Am women sterilized in the 70's... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. The Indians are very generous and forgiving people. They would HELP the Italians |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
9. Kicked and recommended. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Like I always say on this day.... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Ugh. That is a disgusting thought. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. What would we do without a good sense of humor! |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
14. KnR |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
15. Thanks bobbie!! |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. Any holiday that celebrates this type of assault on Native Americans is reprehensible |
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superduperfarleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Americans, just like all people, need their myths. n/t |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Thank you! Have you considered joining that organization of Italians who are against Columbus Day? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
22. Psychological Aspects of Racism |
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Panaconda (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
23. What a superb antidote |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Uncomfortable? Yes, indeed. The unreccers are out in force. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Yeah.. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. You know, that could be a workable idea. |
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Well, I ain't no artist but I can google... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. That's great... haven't seen that one before. |
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Panaconda (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
66. Excellent |
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maryf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #31 |
68. Fantastic... |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. There's absolutely zero reasons for Columbus Day... |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. National Pie Day |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
46. Yummy! |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
39. Pie contributes to obesity in this country |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
45. Please tell me |
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. I expected as much from a pie pushing fascist such as yourself |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Ha! |
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Regret My New Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:42 AM Response to Reply #50 |
73. I like you. |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
26. K&R |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Thanks! |
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Brewman_Jax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
27. K&R |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
34. k&r |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. . |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
35. K&R |
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Nambe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
36. My AIM story in short |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. What an amazing story! I have said several times today, the generosity of Indians is amazing. |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
41. the funny thing about some progressives protesting Columbus day.. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Invading a land and killing its people isn't racist? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:41 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Ya gotta wonder what boat *this* invasion came in on. |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. so Thanksgiving is racist? 4th of July?racist.. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. I could recommend a history tutor if you need one. |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. wow how original.... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Did you bother to read the OP? |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. 400 years? I think we can stop mourning.. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Thank you for your sensitivity. |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:17 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. I'm certainly caring about people currently living |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Its that kind of short-sightedness and hard-heartedness that is causing the Dems to lose |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. that doesn't make sense.... |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:46 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. I wouldn't expect you to understand. That would take more heart. |
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Nambe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. Celebrating the "discovery" of America? |
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Green_Lantern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. yes and Native Americans killed, warred, and invaded each other |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-15-10 03:45 AM Response to Reply #52 |
76. That doesn't change the fact that Columbus came here |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:00 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. You're definitely right about the guesswork. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 03:31 AM Response to Reply #41 |
70. Relative to the slaughter practiced by Europeans all over the world, yes. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:20 PM Response to Original message |
58. excellent post |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 05:31 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Well, if you read some of these DUers replies, you will find out that he really was a hero, |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 06:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Simple minded ones |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. it reall is sad to see the level of sociopathology... |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Hey, they got theirs |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 08:10 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. I'm convinced there are a number |
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TheBigotBasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-11-10 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
69. To me |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
71. kick |
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chillspike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:33 AM Response to Original message |
72. Video of the talk here: |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 06:49 AM Response to Original message |
74. Thank You |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-12-10 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
75. K&R |
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