Wow..... just WOW

[hlthe2b]

Mutilated Afghan Woman Gets Award, Reveals Prosthetic Nose




'Bibi' Ayesha, Mutilated Afghan Woman, Receives 'Enduring Heart Award'

After having her nose and ears cut off by her husband as a punishment handed down by Taliban elders, "Bibi" Ayesha was left for dead. The courageous young woman found her way to an American military hospital where she was treated for her wounds.

In August, Ayesha traveled to California to begin an intensive eight-month facial reconstruction.

Ayesha attended the event wearing the prosthetic nose that has been made for her by California doctors.

a bit more at the link...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/12/bibi-ayesha-mutilated-afg_n_759780.html

[Curmudgeoness]

1. Can I say it too many times, that I am so grateful to have been

born in the US? It isn't that something like this could not happen here, because there are sick individuals everywhere. But at least it isn't sanctioned punishment here. This woman is beautiful and I cannot imagine what she has gone through.

[Scuba]

4. Don't count you chickens before they've hatched....

...while the Citizens United ruling stands, women are at risk.

[Liberal Veteran]

9. As long Citizens United stands, everyone born via sperm and egg are at risk.

On the other hand, if one was born via Articles of Incorporation, you have unquestioned liberty.

[Scuba]

10. Exactly, and women especially so.

[whathehell]

11. She is quite beautiful....I hope that she can stay here.

Beyond that, I agree with you...Mutilating people will NEVER be sanctioned here or, IMO, in any area of the civilized world.

[The Doctor.]

15. There are forces here that are very much working to undo civilization.

Do not take what we've had as granted.

[whathehell]

16. That certainly sounds ominous..

Could you be more specific?

[The Doctor.]

20. "Mutilating people will never be sanctioned here"

You do not understand where we are right now. Torture is already accepted by our master media. Do not for one instant believe that your fellow countrymen will outright reject that gays and liberals do not deserve deformation.

After all... it's not killing, right?

[whathehell]

21. I'm sorry,

I simply do not agree.

Is it possible?..Of course. Anything is theoretically possible. Is it at all likely?...I think not. Again, there are sick individuals everywhere, but state "sanctioning"?..That would indicate a level of "change" in the state of western democracies that would not only be "unprecedented", it would be the cultural equivalent of a nuclear meltdown.

[The Doctor.]

47. Our government has sanctioned torture.

That was also supposed to 'never' happen.

[whathehell]

48. and that was horrible

but it was in the theater of war, not everyday domestic policy -- big difference.

[Daemonaquila]

29. Hear, hear.

It would be a travesty to send this lovely young woman back to the people who oppressed, disfigured, and tried to murder her.

I would love to see a new immigration policy - refugee status and education for any woman in a country where sharia law is practiced, and/or where women do not have full human status.

[whathehell]

42. Yes...My spouse and I have been saying that for a long time. n/t

[Citizen Worker]

26. Excuse me, but what does this woman's beauty have to with the vicious act committed against her?

Would people feel different were she "ugly?"

[Mad_Dem_X]

30. +1 Good question.

[Curmudgeoness]

37. Absolutely not what I was saying. My comment was about the

picture of her with the prosthetic nose and how great it looked, but I can see how this could be misread. You are right, it was a vicious act and my post was intended to comment on how this kind of punishment is not acceptable here. And hopefully, one day, it will be unacceptable worldwide.

[Le Taz Hot]

43. That one struck me too. n/t

[11 Bravo]

44. The disfigurement perpetrated on this woman was aimed at her physical appearance.

The fact that said appearance has today been restored to what would probably be considered "attractive" is certainly germane to the discussion. You're trying WAY too hard to take offense at an innocuous comment.

[whathehell]

46. +10 n/t

[rox63]

2. I hope she will be allowed to stay here permanently, if she wants to

She certainly can't go back where she came from.

[hlthe2b]

3. It is hard to imagine more obvious justification for asylum... n/t

[RKP5637]

12. +1000 +++ n/t

[Scurrilous]

5. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Liberal_in_LA]

6. K&R

[Arugula Latte]

7. I'm glad she got good treatment, but

it's such a strange thing to think about the small number of Iraqis who have been helped by the U.S. versus all the thousands we've maimed or blown to bits.

[Codeine]

18. Afghan, actually. nt

[Arugula Latte]

27. Oops. Apparently I've lost my reading comprehension.

But, the point still stands, I think.

[KoKo]

23. Agree...while it's a heartwarming story...there's a propaganda angle to it that

is disheartening. All the maimed children and adults who will never be "poster people" for reconstruction. The birth defects from depleted uranium, the psychological scars.

A poster girl is fine, but one person is hardly a reason to invade a country and cause the destruction we have done.

[Lorien]

24. I know that one census said that U.S. forces murdered over 1 million Iraqi

citizens. How many Afghans have been killed? How many maimed? How many have lost a loved one? Yes, the Taliban are awful and should be driven from power, but that's not what we're doing over there.

[Skittles]

8. she's a beauty

lovely gal

[Roon]

13. I wonder if she got to pick her new nose eom

[HomerRamone]

33. when it's stuffy--sorry couldn't resist nt

[Roon]

14. dupe

[scheming daemons]

17. American science to the rescue... sometimes we CAN be a force for good..

...

[defendandprotect]

19. Who ever said religion was good for mental health ...???? What a beautiful young girl ....!!!

Trust she's not going back?

Obviously, in US' ALMOST 10 YEARS IN AFGHANISTAN -- we've changed little !!!

Especially re equality for females there!!

[seabeyond]

22. we had that times magazine on our dining room table for a while. kids need to see this picture

i had quite a few people, lots of kids, stop with that photo and take the time to read the article. they all need to see what was accomplished. they felt so much empathy for this woman.

thanks for the photo

[bc3000]

25. It's a shame this country doesn;t care as much about the Afghanis mutilated in our name.

[Stumbler]

28. A touching story indeed, but I've got a quick question

Who funded that "intensive eight-month facial reconstruction?" The military? Volunteers with the expertise? As a donation from our insurance industry? Or will she get a whopping bill at some point?

I didn't watch the video at the link, so if it's explained there, I apologize for being lazy...

[SoCalDem]

32. Usually those types of surgery are sponsored by wealthy people

with doctors donating their services.

[Stumbler]

41. Ok, that makes sense. Thanks

[Dreamer Tatum]

31. The smile on her face and the experiences she must have had

more than make up for the usual tongue-clucking bullshit spewed on feel-good threads.

Good on her and on the people who helped her, period, paragraph.

[sulphurdunn]

34. It is a marvelous thing that has been done

for this poor woman. Would she have been as fortunate had she been a poor, uninsured American woman who had suffered the same fate? I hope the answer is yes.

[librechik]

35. "The Grossman Burn Foundation is the organization providing Ayesha's reconstructive surgeries."

I'm sure they are open to donations.

[lunatica]

36. Watching her smile with such happiness choked me up

Between this and the rescue of the miners in Chile I'm a basketcase with my tears of happiness

[Uncle Joe]

38. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, hlthe.:thumbsup:

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[handmade34]

40. wonderful story

and so happy for her...

[trotsky]

45. A most encouraging and happy development!

However what saddens me at the same time is not just the foul religionists who hurt her in the first place, but also that millions of like-minded Afghans are the opposite of elated over this news. They will have viewed what we evil secular Americans have done as an affront to their god and Sharia law.

I say fuck 'em. But it gives a telling glimpse into what we're up against.