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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:04 PM
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While clapping the rescue of the miners - please remember these points.
Edited on Tue Oct-12-10 09:14 PM by TheBigotBasher
The miners stuck underground are likely to be denied to be their wages.

http://www.care2.com/causes/human-rights/blog/trapped-chilean-miners-docked-pay-while-undeground/

The workers families are suing because of the failure of the mining company to meet the very minimum safety standards that they were already required to meet by court order.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/chile/7966590/Families-of-trapped-Chilean-miners-to-sue-mining-firm.html

While the trapped miners have been underground, the other shift miners have not been paid and they have protested about being left with no pay.

http://www.icem.org/en/78-ICEM-InBrief/?date=2010-09-20



If the tv cameras of the World were not looking - there would not be a rescue.

Finally remember - this is the type of employment that a future Senator Paul or Senator O'Donnell would want.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:07 PM
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1. And you know these facts how?
Psst! Links would help support your personal opinion.

:hi:

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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:17 PM
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4. Added.
The last two points are my opinion but there are many many other sources to back up the points I made. Google is a friend.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:21 PM
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5. Thanks!
My deepest respects for taking the time.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:11 PM
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2. O'Donnell has a policy on mining wages?
That's a new one to me.
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:15 PM
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3. libertarian nut job to go in the senate.
Yep - get rid of employee safety rules.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:26 PM
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9. Yeah, I guess that's true
She won't be friend of Labor, that's for sure.
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:24 PM
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6. Even so, I will celebrate this rescue.
Many issues need to be resolved, but these men are literally returning to the land of the living. I am glad. This is good news, whatever the cause.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:24 PM
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7. Oh GODAMMIT!
Can we not have a moment of JOY?

Jesus f'ing crist on a pogo stick!

These guys are being fucking saved right now...lay OFF!
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:30 PM
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11. I said while clapping the rescue.
please remember those points.

I think it is important to remember that this is the fault of a company that failed to meet the very minimum safety standards that they were required to meet. I also think that it is important to remember the other miners who because of that legal failure are going without any pay and who therefore felt it necessary to take to the streets.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:52 PM
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18. godamn... for anyone who may forgot?
ofcourse we know why they are there!

Can we atleast celebrate a moment of rescue?
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:42 PM
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15. Of course we should forget the poor
employment standards that got them trapped in the first place and learn nothing from it.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:25 PM
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8. Let's get them out of the mine first
THEN start kicking ass & taking names on this other shit.

dg
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:26 PM
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10. You're wrong. Their paychecks have been being deposited in the bank for them.
Edited on Tue Oct-12-10 09:28 PM by Tx4obama
Accounts were set up for each of them and only they can access them.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:30 PM
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12. I wouldn't worry too much about these miners:
This, plus what the above poster stated.

"Oct. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Chile’s 33 trapped miners are preparing to swap their underground shelter for the international spotlight as offers from media and moviemakers are set to match their current annual wages.

Chile’s government has trained the men on handling the media frenzy after they’re pulled out from today. Classes were conducted over phone lines threaded through drill holes almost half a mile underground where they’ve been stranded since Aug. 5 when a tunnel caved in at the San Jose copper and gold mine.

Family members camping out in the Atacama desert have obtained lawyers and received book and film offers, said Arnoldo Plaza Vega, 46, whose cousin is among the men trapped inside the mine. For some, life after the rescue may be difficult to handle, said Ana Maria Aron, who heads a post-traumatic stress unit at Chile’s Catholic University.

“It’s hard to grasp how strange it is to come out of a black hole in the ground for weeks or months into this sort of media frenzy,” said Jeff Goodell, whose book about nine Pennsylvania miners trapped for 77 hours was a New York Times bestseller. “The shock of coming into this media spotlight is almost bigger than the shock of being trapped underground..."

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-10-12/trapped-miners-in-chile-prepare-for-book-movie-deals.html
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:33 PM
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14. Agreed. There are however another 100 miners
who are now out of work and who were working in conditions that were even illegal in Chile. I do think that they need to be remembered.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:44 PM
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16. I think I read somewhere that these other miners were being paid also...
I'll try to find a link.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:32 PM
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13. Massey Energy Upper Big Branch Mine disaster. 'nuff said. n/t
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TheBigotBasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-12-10 09:51 PM
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17. I don't know what that skeleton like thing is
in the wall by the miners but it does look kind of creepy.
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