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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:12 PM
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Jennifer Petkov Apologizes for Taunting Terminally Ill Child
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 06:14 PM by RamboLiberal
Jennifer Petkov quickly became one of the most hated villains on the Internet last week after she told television news crews that she had no qualms about taunting the family of Kathleen Edward, her seven-year-old neighbor dying of Huntington's Disease.

But after becoming the target of an Internet hate campaign and receiving death threats from strangers, Jennifer Petkov, 33, has apologized, for comments that have left many of her Detroit neighbors dumbfounded.

“What I did was ignorant and wrong and I would walk right across this street now and apologize, if it weren’t for the PPO (personal protection order issued against her earlier by a court),” Jennifer Petkov told the Detroit News on Friday. “I’m not proud of myself because this went from a neighborhood dispute to a huge thing.”

The apology came after Jennifer's husband, Scott Petkov, was placed on leave from his job as a forklift repairman. He is currently in danger of losing his job over the tasteless incident.

http://www.zimbio.com/Jennifer+Petkov/articles/YkLScX3wsIp/Jennifer+Petkov+Apologizes+Taunting+Terminally

Jennifer Petkov told FOX 2 Friday night that she never really meant any ill wishes towards Kathleen Edward or her family.

Scott and Jennifer Petkov even went so far as to display a lighted candle on their porch at the same time dozens of strangers were gathering across the street in front of Kathleen's home.

"If I had to do it all over again, I wouldn't do it," Jennifer Petkov told Ronnie Dahl. "And to that little girl, I apologize if you've been hurt. There's not much more I can say. And hopefully we can live our lives peacefully from now on."

Scott Petkov also said he was sorry earlier Friday. "We apologize for our actions and stupidity. It was an ignorant thing that we did and it was basically in retaliation about things that were said about my house and my wife."

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news/local/Trenton-Woman-Who-Taunted-Dying-Girl-Now-Offers-Apology

She has to be one of the vilest human beings I've ever seen who wasn't a mass murderer or Ann Coulter. Hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes of fame you vile %*#%#.



This link has the images this POS posted on her Facebook page. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319276/Scott-Jennifer-Petkovs-cruel-taunts-dying-Kathleen-Edwards-7.html
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:13 PM
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1. This person is repulsive.
She is evil.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:15 PM
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2. I figured that once the Petkovs' hateful TV interview came out, they'd
get shunned in their community and might even lose their jobs. Looks like that's happening--who wants to be associated with such odious people?
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Cid_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:41 PM
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86. No word on the wife...
... but the husband has "supposedly" been suspended with pay at his job as a forklift operator. Watch him get canned and then proceed to sue...
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:33 AM
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108. /b/ was pretty damned sure they'd got her job too.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:15 PM
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3. Boo-fucking-hoo. You made your bed, now rot in the toxic waste of your hate, Mrs. P. nt
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:16 PM
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4. "she never really meant any ill wishes " Really??
This woman makes me sick.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:19 PM
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5. The only thing she's sorry for is getting her hatred exposed.
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 06:20 PM by Ikonoklast
If this never hit the national media, she'd still be having her little hatefest going.

They are only sorry when they have to face the consequences of their vile actions.

Despicable thing that she is, I hope all good things in life come to her.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:28 PM
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12. Very right.
She's just doing damage control now.

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:20 PM
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6. As apologies go, this one isn't bad
If I were the one wronged, I'd be willing to accept it. I don't know that I'd immediately becomes Ms. Petkov's BFF, but this is definitely not the "I'm sorry if you were offended" strain of apology. Whatever this woman feels or doesn't feel in her heart really has no bearing on the 7-year-old's health for good or ill. Pick up and move on. Work more on building the community rather than tearing it down, and the Petkovs are part of the community, too.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:24 PM
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9. IMHO she has further to go after the first interview I saw with her
I can't judge her heart. I just hope she and her hubby learned a lesson after becoming hated world wide.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:27 PM
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10. i tend to agree. and this: "basically in retaliation about things that were said about my house &
my wife" makes me suspect there's some backstory.

which doesn't excuse what they did, but points out that in such cases things are rarely entirely one-sided.

if both sides could let it go from here they could at least live in peace.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:34 PM
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14. This is how it was supposed to have started
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 06:36 PM by RamboLiberal
Another story said they had a bouncy house in the yard for a birthday party that Jennifer's kid wanted to come over and play in. And excuse me, yeah there are neighbor feuds but adults should keep the damn feud confined to living adults and not take it to kids. She's a mother of a kid as well. Makes me shudder what these cretins are teaching their kid(s). I hope they can grow beyond their parent's childish hatred.

Kathleen’s stepmother, Gabrielle Edward, said the feud started two years ago.

‘Kathleen’s grandmother had a birthday party, and Jennifer sent a message asking if her kids could come over to play,' she said.

But the grandmother, Rebecca Rose, did not respond to the text quickly enough, she said. 'That's where it all started.'

Asked why she escalated the ugly feud, Jennifer Petkov said it was for 'personal satisfaction' and 'because it burns Rebecca Rose's a** raw.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319276/Scott-Jennifer-Petkovs-cruel-taunts-dying-Kathleen-Edwards-7.html#ixzz12HidUgcK
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:38 PM
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20. being as that story presents only one side's version, not sure it's 100% credible.
doesn't include "stories about my house & my wife".

i don't know what the truth is, but my experience is that there's usually some cause for grievance on both sides, even though one side may take it further than the other.

which this family obviously did when they started making fun of children.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:45 PM
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28. The child is 7 years old with a terminal disease for which there is
no cure.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:46 PM
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31. i'm not sure why you feel obliged to tell me that. nothing i said in any way supports what these
people did.

but your post is yet another demonstration of how these things can escalate.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:47 PM
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32. Because I am trying to understand what kind of backstory
do you think can justify this woman's behavior?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:51 PM
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35. i did not say there was any backstory which justified it. just that there was probably a backstory.
& the backstory was probably some incident in which the now victims, purposefully or accidentally, offended their persecutors.

i make no argument that the persecutor was therefore "justified". nothing justifies what they did.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:35 PM
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15. Right. We need to hear *both* sides of the story.
While this woman doctored up and posted photos of a woman who died of Huntington's disease, showing her in the arms of the Grim Reaper, and posted a photo of her 7 year old daughter, another Huntington Disease victim, showing her face in the center of a skull and crossbones, there are always two sides to every story, and there could be a perfectly innocent explanation. :eyes:
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:42 PM
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26. i didn't say anything like that. your post is a perfect example of how these things escalate.
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 06:44 PM by Hannah Bell
here's what i said:

makes me suspect there's some backstory.

which doesn't excuse what they did, but points out that in such cases things are rarely entirely one-sided.

if both sides could let it go from here they could at least live in peace.


now how you got, from that:

"we need to hear both sides of the story" and
"there could be a perfectly innocent explanation"

i don't know.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:41 PM
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46. Even with
"back story" and an affront to the family, nothing can justify the taunting of a 7 year old dying child. It's insane behavior, and only a sick individual would partake in such behavior.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:48 PM
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72. since i already agreed that nothing justifies it, not sure why you felt it necessary to make this
post.

but again, it does show us how conflicts can escalate.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:25 AM
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96. Because you've repeated
multiple times that there is probably a back-story here.

I'm not conflating anything. I'm reiterating that nothing justifies that woman's vile behavior toward a 7 year old child. (A child who, no matter what her grand-mother or father might have said to this woman, really could have had no part in escalating the issue.) I understand why you don't like that insinuation that your words justify the behavior of this woman; what she did was awful. No matter what was said to her and by whom it was said.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:52 PM
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62. The point is, there is *no* possible "backstory" that could in any way mitigate what that monster
did to that child. None whatsoever. So why even raise the possibility of a "backstory" here?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:49 PM
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74. because there likely was one. nothing was said about justifying what was done to the child.
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 09:49 PM by Hannah Bell
in fact, i specifically said the backstory *didn't* justify it. that *nothing* justified it.

why do you feel it necessary to make the same post 4 other people have already made?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:44 PM
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27. True - there's something happening here
Still, there had been plenty of public confrontation in the past. Police said they visited the two homes on several occasions, as the families had been feuding for years.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_162-20019377-10391704.html

But it doesn't always have to be two-sided. You can get the neighbors from hell as well and any grievance turns in to a confrontation.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:45 PM
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29. yes, there are some cases where there's no discernable cause,
but i think it's rare.

there's typically some incident which justifies the escalation, at least in someone's mind.

good example right on this thread:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:30 PM
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50. Indeed, and Petkov appears to be dealing with some serious mental health issues.
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 08:33 PM by HuckleB
This could be mostly one sided.

The crap she posted online makes me think it very well may be one sided. I mean, she does not have the ability to see how absolutely bizarre those things are. She is in dire need of help.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:35 PM
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52. and the hubby. no they are just trash..
being an asshole is not in the book of psychiatric disorders. It will get your life jacked up on the internet.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:36 PM
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53. There is often a psychiatric disorder underlying the asshole behavior.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:43 PM
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56. Both of them need some lithium or zoloft?
no they are just fucking scum and are only showing regret because they are now on the radar. Diagnosing mood disorders is not an online activity, diagnosing assholes is pretty easy.

They are all over every board that does allow addresses to be posted. Actions have consequences.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:51 PM
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77. I don't know what they need, but they need some serious help.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:19 PM
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81. I think they need to live the rest of their lives with this albatross
hanging around their necks. They are both scum. this is not one event, it was many weeks of action.

So in return they can enjoy their new found and permanent fame.

The help they need is out of their house and into a place surrounded with human feces like them. Change of address may be in order.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:32 PM
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84. Yes, but their personality disorders won't allow that, unless they get treated.
That's an interesting conundrum, isn't it?
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:30 AM
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97. How do I agree with this?
I can't imagine that there is nothing wrong with her mentally. This behavior toward another family with a 7 year old dying is sociopathic. Her apology seems (to me) to be self-serving. It's so bizarre.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:32 PM
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51. The backstory may not be worth having your address and life on /b
and people in Detroit considering burning you home to the ground. She crossed a line.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:51 PM
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78. of course not. i didn't suggest it did.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:36 PM
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16. The apology seemed fairly sincere, but it should have come a lot sooner.
If she and her husband had shown a little remorse immediately afterward, then it would be sort of forgiveable, maybe. But I can't even imagine an adult doing that to someone's child. A dying child. That is so sick, and so vile. Those people should never have children of their own.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:38 PM
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21. Too late - according to what I've read they have kids
And the whole thing started when they texted Jennifer's grandmother if their kid(s) could come over and play in a rented bouncy house and grandma wasn't quick enough to text them back.
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:46 PM
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30. Her apology is conditional and flippant
"And to that little girl, I apologize if you've been hurt."

She doesn't know the dying child's name? She doesn't believe that her actions have inflicted pain on an already suffering child? She is devoid of empathy IMO. Dana ; )
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:22 PM
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44. "I apologize IF you've been hurt" - not so good
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:45 PM
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58. i am sorry IF i hurt you. a simple, sorry i hurt you. no if's about it. i posted below just now
then saw yours.

and this was a neighborhood thing, but it got bigger. what? if it stayed a neighborhood think she would not have come to the realization her behavior was wrong? i thought it a wimpy apology
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 03:48 AM
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92. That's a surprising take on her "apology."
What she did was utterly vile, but at least a genuine apology could be taken for what little it's worth. What she states, though, is she isn't proud of herself "because this went from a neighborhood dispute to a huge thing." It was ok as a neighborhood dispute?
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:20 PM
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7. Good. I hope their horrible behavior stops.
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:23 PM
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8. Why, I wonder, do I question this woman's sincerity?
God Almighty!! If it took being ostracized by the whole community and the threat of her husband losing his job to get this witch to cease and desist, something tells me that her too-little-too-late apology is way more about self-preservation than sincere regret for her despicable actions. I personally hope that she doesn't have a single friend left.......permanently.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:28 PM
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11. Of course, she's apologizing because the rest of us know about it, not because it's wrong. (nt)
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:37 PM
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17. Of course!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:03 PM
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36. how do you think people learn, then?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:18 PM
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41. Big boys and girls don't need national headlines to know something like this is wrong. (nt)
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:24 PM
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47. way to dodge the question. people don't need headlines to know lots of things are wrong -- but
they do them every day.

george bush is responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands, for example.

yet you deny this woman is capable of learning & repentance.

i don't know the truth of the matter, but i do know

denial of forgiveness is one of the reasons the cycle of violence goes on.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:40 PM
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54. George bush will not burn that womans house down...
seriously, she crossed a blatant line and forgiveness is between god and his flock. There is none from the real world for people who do things like this.

They are trash and picking on people who will not lay them to waste. They always pick on people who will not call them out, or burn their house down.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:47 PM
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59. the woman's house got burnt down? i didn't catch that part, can you link me?
as for the rest of your post, not sure what it has to do with anything i said.

the family apologized. maybe it's sincere, maybe not. but it wouldn't hurt anyone to assume it is & go from there. rather than assume it's not & continue the feud.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #59
60. Not yet, but I would not be all that surprised..
hence "will not" as in future tense. There are some things an apology does not cover. This would be one of them.

They are both trash and hopefully people will continue to work on fucking up their lives, employment, and home, diligently.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:57 PM
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65. so her house didn't get burnt down, it's just your speculation that it might?
yes, they deserve to suffer for the rest of their lives. the deepest corner of hell on earth is reserved for white trash who cross the line, in the mind of popular culture.

george bush, on the other hand -- will live in the lap of luxury to the end of his days.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:05 PM
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69. bush is not relevant in context of every asshole
George bush is not relevant to the people who ran their cancer survivor kid through a wood chipper, not relevant to the girl in NJ who pimped her 7 year old sister.

Some people are just scum, and while they may arrange with what ever voodoo god they believe in to forgive them they can not expect the real world to extend them that.

People who taunt a dying child whose mother already died from a degenerative painful disease will see no forgiveness from me.

While I will not burn their house down or brand them for life by calling their jobs, and making sure every search engine pulls this up for the rest of time, someone will.

I will be happy to post every bit of public record on them in /b. Maybe I already have. Nature will take its course.

And I will not feel to bad about any of that, because they have it coming.

Your obsession with an irrelevant topic and failure to establish frame of reference could be classified as a mental disorder.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:56 PM
Response to Reply #69
79. bush is very relevant. what this woman did was awful, but it didn't result in any damage
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 10:03 PM by Hannah Bell
to life, limb, or property.

it was harrassment, harrassment which included a small, sick child -- that's morally repellent.

on the other hand, the harrassers are now being harrassed in return, by a lot more people. some have suggested even that someone will take it so far as to attack them or their children or burn their house down.

so the harrassers are getting more back (at least in terms of the number of attackers) than they gave.

i.e. public opinion can discipline individuals & families who cross the bounds of community decency.

but it can't discipline the powerful who do ten times, one hundred times, one thousand times worse damage.

your labeling of perspectives which diverge from your own as "mental disorder" is itself some kind of mental disorder.

as is your insistence that people with different perspectives must have some kind of "problem" which makes them different from you (the assumed "normal").

and i tell you why i make these kind of posts:

because here at du, a great deal of space is devoted to calling out individuals like this, as well as other kinds of deviant individuals -- the fat, the unemployed, the underclass, the criminal, the smokers --

& a fraction of that space is devoted to calling out the rich & powerful. and for every couple of callouts, there's someone defending same, a hell of a lot more people than every defend someone like this woman. not saying she deserves much of a defense, but she is one individual whose power extended not much further than the yard next door, & my condemnation of her matters not a damn in the larger scheme of things -- her punishment is already greater than george bush will ever see in his entire life.

seems to me there's a disconnect.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:17 PM
Response to Reply #79
80. bush string theory, I patent it...
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 10:25 PM by Pavulon
where like the real string theory all events are linked and share relevance.. Only in your mind..

No Bush is not relevant to this thread or subject. Mixing them makes you unstable and illogical.

If your frame of reference is bush, in all things, you become like the person afraid to go to the grocery store. it is a disabling way to think.

Bush will be judged by history for his actions in Iraq. He will not be judged kindly. Reality is that he will not go to the Hague or some such silliness.

However that is not the point of this thread, nor is hitler, pol pot, chairman mao or stalin. My little pony, also not the point. sorry.

Being an asshole is not an underclass, not about fat or criminal, it is a pure choice. She made it, so did her trashy husband.

So fuck them, as long as they are not injured, they get what they get. People should think more before they do horrible shit like they did.

If someone burned their house down its only possession, not even close to the mental impact on a dying child of mocking their dead mother.

Short of an event that makes them ponder their own death, a mock execution, they are not on parity. That will not happen.

What will happen is that these "people" will forever be tied to their actions, and will not escape them. That is fair.

They only show remorse now out of shame not true regret.


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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 11:50 PM
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88. you completely miss the point. oh well.
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 11:52 PM by Hannah Bell
bush isn't suffering. his neighbors aren't going to tar & feather him. they're his peeps.

yet he murdered hundreds of thousands of people, & orphaned & made refugees of many more.

what is his "reputation" in history books after he dies to the fact that he profits from his crimes while he lives?

glad you have your priorities straight.

much more important to beat up on this family, deny that any repentance could possibly be enough, even if sincere, & wish them hell on earth for the rest of their lives.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:24 AM
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101. So - to sum up
Nobody can be outraged, everybody who does anything loathsome should get a pass because Bush was/is an asshole. Is that really what you're arguing in a thread that has absolutely nothing to do with bush?
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:05 AM
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94. +1
spot on
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:34 AM
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98. What does George Bush
have to do with this couple?

I imagine everyone here would love to see him go on trial for war crimes and be jailed for the rest of his life.

It also seems that the majority here think that what this woman did was hateful.

Not sure how either of those thing connect or why his life has any bearing on what type of punishment that this woman should get.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:42 AM
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100. of course it was hateful. my observation has to do with the amount of space & venom expended on
this & similar cases v. the amount expended on global-scale criminals.

i think the proportions are precisely backwards, & one is in effect substitutionary for the other.

because they are in the larger scheme of things pretty powerless.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:10 AM
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104. That's probably true
I think that human interest stories (stories like this, the Chilean miners, and anything involving breast feeding on DU) tend to get much more traffic. They generally pique our interest in a way that presidential politics do not. It's a sad statement that we are more concerned with smaller stories, but we can relate to these stories much more easily, and it's human nature to care more about what we can relate to.

Having said that, this will peter out soon enough while anger and disgust with George Bush will live on.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:44 PM
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87. I do if she specifies nationwide embarrassment as the reason she "apologized," yes. (nt)
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:32 PM
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13. She only apolgized if the girl had been hurt and after her husband was put on leave
This was pre-meditated, senseless and vile. She is a horrid person and her husband is horrid as well as an imbecile for apologizing for his wife's "brutal honesty"? Slime. You people are slime.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:51 PM
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61. "If I've hurt you" = not an apology nt
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:46 PM
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70. No kidding. Conditional at best. And that's being kind on my part.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 08:58 AM
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103. It's the kind of shit apology I used to get from management where I used to work
all men, of course. So I started using the same language whenever they got pissed off at me (for really bizarre reasons). Man, you should have seen the heads jerk back when I did it, which only encouraged me to keep doing it. :evilgrin:

dg
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:37 PM
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18. wow a vile human being she is
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SmileyRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:37 PM
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19. As soon as the heat cools off she'll start her bully shit up again.
I could be wrong on this one but I've yet to see a bully reform.
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:39 PM
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22. Indeed
and they usually blame their victim for any negative consequences of their bullying.
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:41 PM
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23. don't forget her dear husband
who drove the truck around the neighborhood pulling a coffin.

He's as disgusting as she is. They deserve each other. I hope he does lose his job.

What a pair of fucktards getting all bent out of shape over an effing birthday party invite?!? Evil scum. Pathetic losers.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:42 PM
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24. "I apologize *if* you were hurt." IF?!
What an asshole. Oh, and love that husband, too: "(I)t was basically in retaliation about things that were said about my house and my wife." So, because things were said about your house, it's okay to taunt a child? One with a terminal illness? Insane. Just sickening.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:47 PM
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33. Yeah that's what gets me - taunting the kid
Edited on Wed Oct-13-10 06:48 PM by RamboLiberal
If you're having a neighborhood feud keep it to the living adults, kids should be out-of-bounds to taunt.

And remember this isn't the first case we've seen of an adult taunting a child. Remember the idiot who made up a fake boyfriend interested in a young girl and when the girl found out she had been the victim of a cruel hoax hung herself?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:42 PM
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25. There is no rule that says an apology has to be accepted
And I have chosen to decline her apology.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:11 PM
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37. don't think why you think you're part of the picture at all.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 06:50 PM
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:14 PM
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38. what about saying "I've learned my lesson" is that so hard?
that is the sentence I would look for in an apology.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:17 PM
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39. glad she apologized
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Cleanelec Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:18 PM
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40. These "people" (I use the term loosely)
Are evil personified.

I don't believe her apology is sincere. She's only sorry her cruelty backfired on her.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:28 PM
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49. She is human.
She is obviously sick, but she is human.

We cannot depersonalize others, and help move toward peace, IMO.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:54 PM
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63. Biologically she may be human. But she is still a monster (nt)
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Cleanelec Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:55 PM
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64. Human, just an extremely evil human
Anyone that would torment a child, much less a terminally ill child, doesn't rank real high on my list.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:49 PM
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75. Nor mine.
The point is that the brain is biological, and it can suffer maladies just like the rest of the body.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:22 PM
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82. Asshole-ism, nature or nurture? Upcoming JAMA article..
these people are dog shit, the suffering the deserve is to be shunned by decent people. They made their choice, now they can live with it.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:31 PM
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83. If only the brain were that simple on any level.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:20 PM
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42. Wow. I wonder if years of therapy would even help someone that stupid and cruel...
hard to say. Sick, sad people.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:22 PM
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43. OMG I just saw the interview that started all this. I hope that bitch catches fire.
Fuck her, what a fucking sick...sick...sick thing to do.

Holy shit.

Really. Holy shit. Is there no bottom in some people?

PB
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Bosso 63 Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 07:41 PM
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45. personality disorder
She ain't right in the head.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:27 PM
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48. Absolutely. -eom-
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TK421 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:40 PM
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55. Miz Petkov, you and your miserable excuse for a family will certainly get whats coming to you
and your apology is absolutely worthless...just like you and your miserable family is worthless; not serving any particular function in society so get the FUCK OUT!!
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:50 PM
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76. I hope you are not wishing ill upon her poor children.
Can you imagine growing up with those parents?
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:38 AM
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99. That is punishment
Her kids are innocent. They may grow up to be assholes (like their mom), but they are kids now and should be exempt from blame for the mother's actions. I just feel sorry for them that they are raised by this hateful person. Imagine the treatment that they get at home?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:44 PM
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57. why cant people just say i am sorry i hurt you, instead of i am sorry IF i hurt you. that is
such bullshit. call it what it is. she hurt people. gonna apologize, do it, all the way.

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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 10:36 PM
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85. b/c that phrases lets the victimizer continue to blame the victim
I work with kids, and they do this all the time when being forced to give an apology that they do not yet "own" up to their fault. Example of the unspoken words behind such an apology: "I am sorry if you took offense at my actions, but they weren't intended to cause you to think what you did (ya sure), so if you took offense... sorry for that" (your taking offense, not my action.) It is generally a clear indicator that there is no real apology, as it is narrowed to the person taking offense or being hurt, rather than ownership of the action that caused such offense/pain.

It's a non-apology - and a self-serving means of maintaining the righteousness of one's original actions.

There is no real remorse that I read in this woman's words. Only an effort to further self-serve (by trying to lighten the heat now pointed upon her for her actions.)

I would have no room in my life for this person if she were a friend, acquaintance or relative. Clearly she is cruel as h*ll, and certainly she will continue to be so - per her non apology.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 06:20 AM
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95. i agree with you. nt
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Freetradesucks Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 08:59 PM
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66. That sick sorry excuse for a human is not sorry for what she did,
she is sorry for herself for the repercussions she is facing. Truly a gross person.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:01 PM
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67. I think the term "human garbage" applies particularly well here.
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Freetradesucks Donating Member (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:01 PM
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68. Really a gross person.
She is concerned for herself now, that's it.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:48 PM
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71. Shame...
It actually works with some people!
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 09:49 PM
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73. Dingleberries !
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 11:52 PM
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89. Why hasn't anyone figured out how closely she is related to Christine O'Donnell? -eom-
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-13-10 11:55 PM
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90. "But after becoming the target of an Internet hate campaign and receiving death threats"
I know this might sound horrible, but Good!

"He is currently in danger of losing his job over the tasteless incident." Good!!!
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 12:09 AM
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91. I really hope the shame and fear really has caused her to feel true remorse.
And i hope that little Kathleen has some increasing light in her young life.

According to one friend of Kathleen's family Mrs Petkov would pull the truck with the coffin up to the yard the young girl was playing in and call out to her, "I can’t wait until you die."

Just sick.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319276/Scott-Jennifer-Petkovs-cruel-taunts-dying-Kathleen-Edwards-7.html
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 03:59 AM
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93. They should sue the Petkovs in civil court.
Intentional infliction of emotional distress, for starters. These people knew EXACTLY what they were doing in their cruelty.

If they have a restraining order against them, they've already filed criminal charges, probably.

Down here they would call it a Temporary Restraining Order.

Sue 'em -- that's all that the cruel bastards will understand.

That's my free legal advice for the day.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-14-10 07:26 AM
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102. Apologizing AGAIN?
:shrug:

I don't believe it.
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uncommon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:18 AM
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105. "I'm sorry I got caught and my husband might lost his job because we are terrible people."
That is not a real apology. I don't usually wish people ill, but this woman deserves bad things to happen to her.
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:24 AM
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106. Some people never grow up
They are permanently stuck in a high school mindset of uncaring, immature, cruelty.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:31 AM
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107. This goes beyond immaturity.
There is real pathology here.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:36 AM
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109. She is SLIME!
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 08:50 AM
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110. 'if you were hurt...' seeing a lot of that kind of non apology
Apology going around.
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