lgbtiq folk -- do you accept valerie jarrett's apology?

[xchrom]

[Catherina]

1. Just to be clear on who is voting in this poll. I voted no. n/t

[terrya]

2. I'll be honest....it's very tough for me.

The words "lifestyle choice" are truly reprehensible to me.

[xchrom]

3. i understand -- you can be undecided or in my poll other. nt

[terrya]

4. Thanks.

I don't think Valerie Jarrett is some rabid homophobe. But still, this is shitty. No way getting around that.

[xchrom]

5. kicking for exposure

[cwydro]

6. FUCK NO.

This administration, just when I think it can no longer disappoint me anymore...rises to the challenge.

Sickening.

[Lucky 13]

7. I forgive... but never forget.

I am one of those "if anyone was offended" people. I'm glad she's saying she's sorry. And, person to person, I forgive her, as much as I forgive other ignorant, heterocentric people I encounter on a daily basis. Not because I tolerate this view point, but because refusing to forgive someone just damages your soul... not theirs.

But I am not, nor will I ever, forget. This is just one more moment in a long string of moments that this administration has offended, disregarded, disparaged, fought against, and generally marginalized gay people. They have made me feel like an "other" quite frequently.

Policy wise, regarding marriage, the best we can hope for from them is separate but equal. Never just EQUAL. Marriage is out of the question.

We might get DADT overturned, but only because of a courageous judge and after they have polled military personnel and families to quantify just how much they will be creeped out by have to serve side by side with fags and dykes.

We are constantly told we need to be patient. After all, think of all the other pressing issues he has to deal with. I mean, he needs to fix the economy, end all wars, balance the budget, and thousands of other "more important" things! But once he does all that some ten, twenty, a hundred years from now... then he'll get right on it! Right? Just be patient! Right?

It was a sad sad day for me when I saw the LOG CABIN REPUBLICANS doing more for my civil rights than this administration has. I don't even know what to do with that. But I know enough to recognize that this administration is not on "my side". They are not working for my interests. They do not want to hear my opinion. They don't want me to express displeasure when they drift rightward. They want us to sit down, shut up, quit complaining, and like what we're given. Sounds familiar. What a bunch of silly queers we were to expect anything different.

[xchrom]

8. i understand where you are coming from and appreciate your thoughts.

i find valerie a little too experienced for making this kind of 'mistake'.

and if i connect to marriage equality and the rest -- well -- it's all really a little hard to take.

[Ratty]

9. If it was an acquaintance or even a friend, I'd fogive completely

Ms. Jarrett should know better considering her standing and position in the administration. At the worst it was a deliberate slur, at best it was oblivious. I don't think it was deliberate but considering how the administration has pandered to the religious right coupled with Obama's very clear public religous-based distaste for gay marriage, I don't *know* that it wasn't either. That it might be oblivious is certainly no surprise to those of us who have been paying attention every since McClurkin and Warren. Gays have absolutely NO priority in Obama's agenda.

[xchrom]

10. for me it all coincidentally lines up too well.

from obama to others -- this kind of ignorance keeps showing up.

[alc]

15. ignorance is too kind

The phrase is well enough known that nobody would accidently say it. Either she believes it to be at least partially true or she's trying to make points with some group.

If she believes it, I don't consider that ignorance (though I guess it technically is). I consider it to be an intentional conclusion she come to and she cannot claim ignorance.

[xchrom]

17. i am trying to be a little temperate. but i do think your point

about making points with some group to be on point.

[Ratty]

21. Agreed

When I was thinking deliberate I meant less a slur and more a shoutout.

[Rhythm]

11. I'm more than hesitant to accept her apology...

Anyone who prefaces a so-called apology as being given toward anyone "who hase taken offense" gets a 'fuck you, too' from me. It's the same thing as one who, having been caught stealing, is not so much sorry to have committed the deed, but rather being sorry to have been caught. In her case, she said what she really thought, got called on it, and now had no choice but to apologize whether she means it or not.

I also think it's telling that someone who made this gross error is a senior advisor to our 'fierce advocate'.

:eyes:

[xchrom]

12. yes. her 'apology' has a slime factor to it. nt

[Behind the Aegis]

13. Not as bad, but....

Mel Gibson apologize publicly to the Jews (Family Guy you-tube video)

[xchrom]

14. LOL!!! ewww -- oh god! nt

[joeybee12]

16. I voted no, but if anyone can show me where and when she ever came out and did

or even said something very, very very supportive of lgbtiq people, I might change my mind.

[Laughing Mirror]

18. I always accept an apology

Even if it comes from the White House. Nothing they say I ever take seriously anymore.

I just wonder where this "lifestyle choice" business comes from. Is that the way they talk about us when they're sitting around the White House wondering what to do with us?

[foxfeet]

19. I voted "no."

If I give her the benefit of the doubt and put the most benign possible face on her original mis-use of the term "lifestyle choice," I'm still left with the fact that she gave a half-assed, tepid apology. Offense was given (as is so often the case) NOT taken. A more vigorous, heartfelt apology could actually have done some good in terms of seizing a teachable moment for the "ignorant" (many, but not all of them willfully so) out there.

[xchrom]

20. indeed. the teachable -- if there was any -- has slipped away.

like that slippery apology.

[racaulk]

22. I see a bunch of "No" responses in the replies, but 14 people so far have voted "Yes."

Methinks this poll is being freeped by non-LGBTIQ folk.

:tinfoilhat:

For the record, I voted "No."

[Ratty]

23. I voted no but I think reasonable people can disagree

[Fire1]

24. Thought PO was so big on vetting folks! He dropped the ball

there! She stepped in deep doo-doo!

[NMMNG]

25. No

Terms like that don't fall out of a person's mouth by mistake. She meant what she said.