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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:45 PM
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I have a big 'What if' scenario with the DoJ and DADT
I always thought that it would be our judiciary branch that will finally give people the civil rights they demand. Just like with Abortion 40 years ago it probably will be the same with gay rights.

What if the DoJ challenges this last ruling and they lose? Wouldn't that ultimately strengthen the court's decision on allowing same-sex marriage/repealing DADT to ultimately happen. If our government tries and fails it's going to be alot more difficult for right-wing fanatics to fight these battles and make the changes. I know this sounds bizarre but to me, it's almost like the DoJ is challenging this case and will ultimately lose it thus making it even harder (and way more expensive) for the right-wing fringe to mount their battles.

I know Obama has been a disappointment when it comes to civil rights - to me he's sitting there on the fence trying to make everyone happy but ultimately not making anyone happy. I have to think that personally he supports civil rights, I mean if it wasn't for the civil rights movement back in the 60's I doubt Obama would even be president today. But Obama plays both sides of the fence with this issue and well, it's not helping his cause if you ask me.

I know it's crazy but I just can't see the DoJ winning this one and honestly, I think they know that too. But their losing it would cross a major hurdle in making this the law of the lands.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:50 PM
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1. Haven't they already lost?
Therefore, why are they trying to "win" now?

:shrug:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:51 PM
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2. Until it hits the Supreme Court there is always a way to overturn stuff
which is one of the downfalls.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:53 PM
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3. What makes you think he personally supports civil rights?
He repeatedly voices his opposition to them.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 12:57 PM
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4. Honestly we don't have that answer at all
but what someone believes personally might not be what they do as an elected person. Obama was elected to represent everyone, not just us progressives. I mean in the last 40 years it doesn't seem like that but really that is what the office of President is all about.

So to be honest - either one of us could be right when it comes to Obama's personal thoughts versus public ones.
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