marmar
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Fri Oct-15-10 07:21 PM
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Stephen "capitalism is more important than democracy" Moore is a f**king moron..... |
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..... I was just about to tune into to Eliot Spitzer's show for the first time, and there's his grinning protofascist mug in my face. I'm sure Spitzer will call him out, but I just can't listen anymore without losing my cookies. :puke:
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The Magistrate
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Fri Oct-15-10 07:25 PM
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1. For 'Malefactors Of Great Wealth',Sir, That Is True |
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Indeed, past a certain point the concentration of capital and democracy cannot co-exist, as the latter would certainly act to remove the former condition. All this wretch is saying is that he sides with the people who claim to own wealth the mass of people actually make, but never see...
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Fri Oct-15-10 07:30 PM
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2. capitalism can't exist without a democracy |
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Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 07:31 PM by fascisthunter
At least, that's what I think. What ends up happening to capitalism, is it gets corrupted by those fighting against any form of oversight. A democracy allows people to do that, through representation of course. When there is none, well you get the point I hope.
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Fri Oct-15-10 08:14 PM
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Two counterexamples: 1) Italy under Mussolini 2) China today Both have/had thriving capitalist systems, and no democracy.
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Fri Oct-15-10 08:51 PM
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4. Mussolini was a fascist |
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China is just entering capitalism...
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marmar
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Fri Oct-15-10 08:52 PM
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5. But I don't think fascism and capitalism are mutually exclusive..... |
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Fri Oct-15-10 08:55 PM
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6. well, there are degrees.... no country has a pure system |
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Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 08:57 PM by fascisthunter
all are somewhat hybrids... sometimes in history though, we see the extremes and they never work out in the end. I think capitalism precedes fascism, so yes, they are not exclusive.
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:29 PM
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7. It did without "democracy" in Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Franco's Spain. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 09:29 PM by Better Believe It
And it has in hundreds of military dictatorships over the past few centurys.
They have acted as the protectors of capitalism.
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Sat Oct-16-10 08:21 AM
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8. was it really capitalism at THAT point? |
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Sat Oct-16-10 08:34 AM
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10. Does it matter what label is attached to funnel all wealth and resource control to a few and use |
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all the powers and tools of a state to protect the arrangement?
Like a football offense, the terminology and some of the plays vary but the goal is exactly the same.
West coast, power I, shotgun, it doesn't matter much when the goal is to funnel the wealth in to few hands.
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Sat Oct-16-10 08:50 AM
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Sat Oct-16-10 08:25 AM
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9. Who is this 'Stephen ' you talk about |
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I know this Spitzer and Moore but not Stephen except Steven Colbert.
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Sat Oct-16-10 09:24 AM
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12. He is a RW'publican...being a moron comes with that.....nt |
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