HEY HOLDER: RESIGN EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, YOU DUMBASS!

[Hawkeye-X]

Wasting taxpayer $$$ on potsmokers when you should be focusing on the electioneering and Republicans monkeying with the system. Rove is ripe for a big, fat indictment. War criminals Bush and Cheney are also awaiting indictments and having their citizenship revoked and sent off to the Hague. That's an appropriate use of taxpayer money. Going after potsmokers or MMJ dealers or even legal dealers are complete waste of time and effort. Hell, there's the Siegelman case that is GAGGING for a big fat indictment on Leura Canary and that fascist judge. Get on with it, Holder. The people of the United States are waiting for you to do your job instead of wasting time with stupid shit.

Thank you.
A concerned taxpayer.

[msongs]

1. he could get the daily double - gays in the military who also smoke pot nt

[RainDog]

6. LOLOLOL!!

honestly, don't you just get sick of the bullshit that is American political life?

commit war crimes and you walk away. grow cannabis for a cancer patient and go to jail.

fuck this shit.

[glitch]

33. War criminals don't walk away, they make obscene profit at the taxpayer trough.

You better believe their still around.

[jaxx]

2. I guess people got so used to the BushCo DOJ not upholding the laws

that they think it's the way things should be done. Wrong. Unless we're going to mob rule, the law is the law.

[TheKentuckian]

3. Skip the sanctimony, the law is a suggestion list at most for certain persons

The law? What a lame crock of tired bullshit.

[jaxx]

4. HaHaHa

What a silly remark.

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[RainDog]

13. honestly. it's pitiful to observe n/t

[rucky]

You don't think there's selective enforcement going on?

Wall Street crooks are getting bonuses.

[rucky]

7. You don't think there's selective enforcement going on?

Wall Street crooks are getting bonuses.

[RainDog]

8. with your pov, we'd still have slavery and Obama would've never been prez

so, yeah, stick with that argument and see how well that plays out when looking at American history.

[jaxx]

9. That's the funniest remark yet.

I get a kick out of how the subject wanders to try to make a point. You don't like the laws, get them repealed.

[RainDog]

11. are you really so uninformed?

do you not know about the struggles for changes in laws that occurred at the state level before they occurred at the federal level? (the enfranchisement of women, for instance.)

do you know that states ignored prohibition laws and the federal govt simply declined to enforce the law there? (NY state, for instance.)

California is working to change the law in this same way.

For you to pretend this is somehow changing the subject is a joke. This IS working to repeal stupid and bad laws...at the state level.

[BootinUp]

19. Correct, but

I do find it a little humorous that a large contingent of the left is going to throw a fit over the fed governments response. The change CA is looking for here is another long fight, and there are people on the other side who feel just as strongly about it. The alcohol prohibition was nothing compared to this one imho. That is all.

[RainDog]

22. It's not just California. 14 states and DC have med mj laws on the books

And the govt. (at both the state and federal level, depending on the place) has tried to thwart the will of the people over and over when the people have voted in favor of this "quasi-legal" introduction of cannabis into their states.

This isn't new. Legislation to decriminalize was introduced in the 1970s in CA. Medical mj was made "legal" in the 1990s.

So, the left has worked against stupid federal and state prohibition for decades.

Alcohol prohibition was not as difficult b/c it only existed for 13 years, rather than the 70 years of outright lies by the federal govt. In spite of those lies, however, or maybe because of them, more people use cannabis in the U.S. than in ANY OTHER western nation. So, if the goal is to do away with cannabis use, they have failed SPECTACULARLY. They have wasted BILLIONS of dollars on this massive failure. This massive failure is worse than any war enacted against people of another nation because this war is against the people of THIS nation. And, even so, it has been nothing but a failure from start to finish.

Intelligent people are able to look at such a failure of policy and decide to correct it. The federal govt can look at tens of thousands of studies that dispute drug war lies. They can look at Portugal and The Netherlands to see the benefit of decriminalization, at the least, and a move toward harm reduction (which Obama stated was his goal - but he's not acting on that in this case.)

So, yeah, there are some who are firmly entrenched on the other side because they refuse to accept reality. The reality is that decriminalization reduces use, saves money, saves lives wasted in prison for victimless crimes...

to me, at this point, attempts to continue the drug war are like people who insist that creationism is a valid pov. It's just not, no matter how much someone wants to claim it is because the bulk of evidence does not support such a view.

The same is true with the current war on drugs if you look at all available evidence.

[girl gone mad]

14. What tripe.

They are selectively upholding laws, and we all know which class is expected to comply with every last letter and which class is allowed to ignore the law altogether.

[EFerrari]

17. Then surely Barack Obama will have Condi arrested at their meet & greet.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4576879&mesg_id=4576879

[RainDog]

26. LOL

yes we can - arrest war criminals (but no, we won't)

[Bluebear]

27. Here.

You may as well talk to this:

[liberation]

39. No it is not the same, talking to plants...

... is actually a good thing.

:-)

[dflprincess]

23. Apparently the law is not the law for member of the last administration

who committed war crimes. They don't even have to worry about being investigated...But legalize pot - now that's a crime worth going after. I suppose there is concern that legalizing it might cut into CIA fundraising.

[glitch]

34. b i n g o "concern that legalizing it might cut into CIA fundraising"

I'd lol but it's not funny, it's sick.

[Oldenuff]

42. CIA fundraising..

I was more of the opinion that they pretty much stayed with cocaine smuggling,but hey,a buck is a buck right?

[sabrina 1]

37. Yes, the law IS the law. We have laws against war crimes.

Care to explain why we were told that when it comes to war crimes, like torture eg, we are to forget about those crimes and start 'looking forward'?

I remember being told to 'forget about impeachment until after we get the Dems a majority'. We did that! We were lied to, they never intended to enforce and restore the rule of law as we found out.

If Holder can ignore War Crimes, I am certain no one would lose sleep at night if CA passed Prop 19 and he takes the president's advice and does the same he is doing regarding war crimes.

Mob rule? We HAD 'mob' rule for eight long criminal years. People have some say in how their government works and acts is now mob rule?

Threatening the voters of CA with prosecution for exercising their right to vote for what they believe is right for their state, is pretty disturbing.

[Canuckistanian]

5. Amen to that

Especially for the Siegelman case. i thought that would be taken care of within HOURS of Holder taking office.

For shame, Eric Holder. From appealing every major judgement in the name of justice and REFUSING to prosecute those who harm society MOST, you've let us all down.

Be gone, sir. And let someone more principled take your place.

[Scruffy1]

12. I'll second that.

In the past week we had John Yoo speak locally for a big fee. Last fall war criminal Rice at a synagogue raking in the shekels. Meanwhile the fucking FBI is raiding and stealing the possessions of peace activists. FUCK THESE GODDAM NAZIS!

[Subdivisions]

15. Or, FFS!, do something about dicks like this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=9325148&mesg_id=9325148

[EFerrari]

18. How many families did that asshole push into homelessness illegally?

Oh, but POT SMOKERS? Holder will be all over that. :puke:

[defendandprotect]

41. We've had 7,500 troops and 46 battle ships off Costa Rica monitoring drug war there ...

and plans to expand these kinds of "aid" programs --

MIC is heavily involved in this crap --

Would be very helpful if Prop 19 happened -- !!!

[Catherina]

16. Rec'd. I'm sick of this. n/t

[CaliforniaPeggy]

20. I"m sick of it too.

Why aren't they hearing us?

Maybe it's the corporations that are afraid. They might see legalizing pot as the gateway for hemp's becoming the fiber of choice instead of polyesters etc.

:wtf:

[Mimosa]

21. When Obama appointed Rahm and Holder my heart sunk. n/t

[democracy1st]

28. Have to say I agree!

[taught_me_patience]

24. He should go after bankers that have perpetuated fraud on the public

Why are none of them in jail?

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

25. Had to log on to recommend this

and give it a kick. Thanks for that.

[The Uncola]

29. k&r

[scentopine]

30. He's attacking peace activists and liberals, wall street criminals walk free. -nt

[glitch]

31. Not to mention all the white collar fraud the FBI should be focusing on rather than peace groups.

But perhaps that fruit doesn't hang low enough.

[glitch]

32. Not to mention all the white collar fraud the FBI should be focusing on rather than peace groups.

But perhaps that fruit doesn't hang low enough.

[pleah]

35. K&R

[Swamp Rat]

36. Like Alberto Gonzales, I suppose Eric Holder condones torture,

among other heinous crimes committed over the last decade.

[SalviaBlue]

38. K and R

There's something really wrong with this.

[defendandprotect]

40. But how terrifying if the right wing says Holder is "soft on drugs" .... ?????!!!!!

Holder has been SOFT on everything that counts --- and now he

wants to attack marijuana for medical purposes and waste his time

trying to keep pot use criminal!!????

Obama should separate himself from this idiocy!!

Even Schwartzenegger knows which way the political wind is blowing!!