Atticus
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:34 PM
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Who else thinks "Obamacare" is a perjorative term? |
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I believe the term originated with wingnuts who intended it to be synonymous with what they viewed as the flawed and expensive "socialist" healthcare plan pushed by the President and his party.
I've heard it used by supposedly objective commentators and I've read in posts on this board. I also heard it said several times with sarcastic and mocking emphasis last evening by Sharon Angle during the debate.
I don't think "we" should be using this term anymore than we should talk about the "Democrat" party.
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:37 PM
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I was having a conversation with my right leaning father and he brought up "Obamacare" and I said, "I don't know what that is. Oh wait, are you referring to the recent health care reform passed by Congress with Republican amendments if not votes?"
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:37 PM
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2. I agree with you. It's used pejoratively, just as Hillarycare was. n/t |
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:42 PM
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3. Totally pejorative. It plays on the (totally rightwing) meme of "Obama the Messiah" |
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a title, ironically enough, given to Obama only by the rightwing - I never heard any liberal/democrat, here on DU or in real life - who ever said, "Gee, I think Obama is a/the Messiah!"
But the rightwing sure accused us of thinking it, which leads one to the only obvious conclusion that: the rightwing actually do consider their candidates (such as Shrubbie) to be messiahs, and so they project it on us as well. But since we have brains, and use them, and tend to actually be educated, we know that no human is good enough to be a Messiah, and so we might support someone as president (or other political position), but would never think of them as any kind of religious fulfillment.
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:47 PM
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4. of course it's perjorative. |
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:48 PM
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5. It is definitely a perjorative. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 09:49 PM by devilgrrl
Thank you for bringing it up.
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:51 PM
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:51 PM
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sorry, not the spelling police
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:58 PM
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10. Duh!!! My bad---thanks! nt |
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:54 PM
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I question the motives of anyone on this board who refers to health care reform with that term.
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Fri Oct-15-10 09:57 PM
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All the right does is mock and ridicule. They're like children.
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:00 PM
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....and use it to describe healthcare reform in the most glowing terms....
....the White House should even use it....we will simply de-wingnutify the term....
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:03 PM
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am really tired of hearing political ads Demonizing "government run health care". Its so sad that people can only think of themselves, and never about anyone else.
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:10 PM
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13. Well, "I Am Not A Witch" O'Donnell used it constantly during her debate. Whiny DUers use it, too. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 10:41 PM by ClarkUSA
What does that tell you?
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:15 PM
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14. Clearly, it's crafted to take the President's falling popularity |
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and tie it to the most convoluted piece of legislation that is his legacy, so far. Financial reform is difficult to understand, but most everybody finds some part of the HCR law distasteful, and it's a blanket way of tying that to Pres. Obama.
Unfortunately, it's likely to work. He did everything he could to twist this pretzel to completion, and frankly, he might have been better off with nothing at all.
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:58 PM
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I disagree with you. Obama started a change, change is never perfect but change does get refined as time goes by. So those who do not like the so called Obamacare you have little knowledge in management or leading a group of people. Why do they call this Obamacare when it was the Congress and the Senate especially the republicans who tore this apart to make it what it is today.
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Sun Oct-17-10 12:56 PM
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31. Being as the Republicons voted against it as a bloc |
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it's pretty difficult to hang any part of the HCR bill on them, and they planned it that way.
The way this was crafted was quite ugly, and ran totally counter to the promises the President made to keep the process open and transparent. At the end, it was clear that he was willing to sign any piece of paper that said "Health Care Reform" on top of it, without regard to what was in it. That's what's sinking this President and his party, and that's what's going to produce the consequences we will see in the next couple of weeks.
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:21 PM
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It was used repeatedly by the teabagger at a debate I just attended. It caused his supporter to go wild.
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:52 PM
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17. Obamacare is meant to be |
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:51 PM
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It pisses me of whenever I hear it.
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:57 PM
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18. I better get some before the tea party tries to repeal it |
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As they outsource jobs and bring back the good 'ole Bush politics.
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:58 PM
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20. At the senate candidate debate on Monday, |
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Scott McAdams said that Obamacare could more accurately be described as Mitch McConnellcare, given the number of Republican amendments and compromises that were put into the bill. I thought that was quite clever and too true.
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Fri Oct-15-10 10:58 PM
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It's meant to be associated with "that socialist n*****r".
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Fri Oct-15-10 11:00 PM
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22. I think it is universally understood as a pejorative term. n/t |
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Fri Oct-15-10 11:02 PM
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23. Definitely pejorative IMHO |
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I wince every time I hear it. :puke:
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Fri Oct-15-10 11:07 PM
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24. It won't be in five years |
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I know how much I like my subsidized insurance. I know how much I like my free preventive screenings. I am thrilled that they won't be able to boot me off of my insurance, or prevent me from getting new insurance, ever again. People are going to be much happier with "Obamacare" than our current mess. So even though it is pejorative, I say go with it so they can never forget a Dem President has pushed through every good social program there is.
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Fri Oct-15-10 11:46 PM
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26. I'll quite possibly be dead by then but... |
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Fri Oct-15-10 11:44 PM
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25. Yes, that is how it is meant and used. |
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Sat Oct-16-10 12:18 AM
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27. It IS a pejorative. I don't think that's an opinion. I think that's a fact. |
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It means, I guess, a comparison to Medicare...a sort of universal care for all, where the taxpayers pay for the deadbeats' health care.
There is no such program or plan or bill or health care act. That doesn't exist.
So, no...it's not just a neutral description.
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Sat Oct-16-10 04:19 PM
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28. Whenever I hear Obamacare, much like "the democrat party," |
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I consider the person who uttered it a foe.
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Sat Oct-16-10 04:36 PM
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29. OBAMACARE PERJORATIVE? |
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Sat Oct-16-10 04:38 PM
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I really wish Thom Hartmann would refrain from using it. I agree with his stance on HCR, but picking up on a RW meme doesn't make things any better. :shrug:
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Sun Oct-17-10 03:53 PM
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32. I do, without a doubt... |
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It is a right wing term and should be treated as such, imo.
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Sun Oct-17-10 04:24 PM
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But, nowhere near as sick as I am of the grossly people like to spout that term.
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Sun Oct-17-10 04:26 PM
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34. It infers that Barrack Obama himself is hiding under your hospital bed. |
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Absolutely, it is a perjorative term, no matter what you have to say about the changes in the health care system.
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