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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:34 PM
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Eric Holder is merely deeply concerned for the health and well being
of the for-profit prison industry.

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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:37 PM
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1. He's mainly deeply concerned....
..that California is about to pass a law under which the state will sell licenses to commit a Federal felony.

There's little else he can do under the circumstances....
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:39 PM
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2. Ridiculous.
Little else he can do?

I suppose that's why he continued enforcing the medical MJ raids same as the Bush administration did, hmm?

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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:41 PM
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4. The medical marijuana situation..
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 11:41 PM by Davis_X_Machina
...and Prop 19 are distinguishable at law.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:48 PM
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8. Treaty issues, the states normal purview, and cheaper prices.
That's what I'm reading there. I don't see what any of that has to do with the Justice Department deciding on how high a priority either issue need to be.

Frankly, I'd rather he concentrate more resources on election fraud rather than a recreational drug that the President frequently enjoyed in his youth.
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:52 PM
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11. Attorney General Bates...
...and Lincoln's best friend Ward Lamon, as US Marshall for the District of Columbia, both continued to enforce the federal Fugitive Slave Law after the start of the Civil War....
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:56 PM
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12. Moved...
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 11:56 PM by Davis_X_Machina
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:57 PM
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14. Is that supposed to be an example of a GOOD thing? nt
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:58 PM
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15. It's an example...
...of taking care that the laws are faithfully executed, as per oath of office.
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:05 AM
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16. They are capable of putting it either high or low on the priority list
A bombastic refutation prior to the vote is an example of what he considers a very high priority.

My question is simply, why?
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:07 AM
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17. Why do the same thing...
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 12:07 AM by Davis_X_Machina
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:49 PM
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9. Eric Holder is only rsponsible for the good things Justice does.
The bad stuff is all the work of his evil twin Skippy.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:41 PM
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3. Yeah.
His hands are tied, right?
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Yeshuah Ben Joseph Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:45 PM
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5. It's really kind of pathetic when the top law enforcement official in the nation
Refuses to admit when a law is corrupt and should be abolished, and until that happens, unenforced.

Federal prohibition of marijuana was a direct result of corporate lobbyists who made an enemy of ALL Cannabis (Hemp) plants.

I take personal offense at this because My Dad & I thought We gave you mortals a great little plant with multiple uses, and the real crime is not using it. For any of them.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:15 AM
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22. Hey YBJ...
you are kinda growing on me, dude (but I still don't believe in you :) )
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:46 PM
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6. C'mon Holder has to uphold Federal Laws. That is his job.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:48 PM
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7. Fine.
There's this criminal in Texas named George W. Bush. He should go and arrest him right away.

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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:17 AM
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23. Take it off the schedule 1 listing...
if it is a misdemeanor instead of a felony, then law enforcement will act accordingly.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 11:21 AM
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27. Total Bullshit
When did Holder enforce the federal laws and treaties banning torture? Don't make me laugh.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:52 PM
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10. Or the CIA's next drugs for guns operation n/t
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-15-10 11:57 PM
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13. Distinguish the California case....
Edited on Fri Oct-15-10 11:57 PM by Davis_X_Machina
...and this case.

"I like dope, and hate Brewer" doesn't count.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 12:21 AM
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18. Wow - that's a little far-fetched, ya think?
:crazy:
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DaveinJapan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:09 AM
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20. Why do you think it's far fetched?
A few facts...

* The U.S.has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world.

* Around a quarter of those jailed are on drug offenses.

* Incarceration has skyrocketed since 1980 (war on drugs begins).



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States



Add to that the fact that the modern for-profit prison industry is another product of the war on drugs, and it makes perfect sense why this is so important to the Justice Department.



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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:03 AM
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19. Holder is legally obligated to uphold federal law, even when federal law is stupid.
For that matter, even if it's federal law he vehemently disagreed with. THAT. IS. HIS. JOB. He does not have the legal discretion to not defend a law, unless PRIOR PRECEDENT renders that law unconstitutional.

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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:11 AM
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21. Isn't lying a nation into war breaking a federal law?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:30 AM
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25. and torturing humans
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 11:27 AM
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29. Has nothing to do with this
FAIL.
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_ed_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 05:59 PM
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30. Then he should be fired
for not enforcing the prohibitions in federal code and in our treaties against torture.

Or are you just making shit up to defend Obama?
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:27 AM
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24. Hehe.
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:58 AM
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26. What's the alternative?
For him to say, no I will not uphold the federal laws?

I think some are trying to put a play on words about this.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 11:26 AM
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28. Unrec'd for outrageous leap
Even if you don't like his stance on the issue.

A state passing a law does not invalidate federal laws, in fact federal laws have Supremacy. Expecting the DOJ to just ignore federal law is just silly.
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