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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:25 PM
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Would it really surprise anyone to see Mexican drug cartels team up with Islamic terrorists to take
over the US?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:29 PM
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1. Yes. nt
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:30 PM
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2. um, yeah
because Islamic fundamentalists are extremist muslims who would consider the primarily catholic mexicans "infidels?"

wow. you're really spewing some nonsense there cowboy.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:34 PM
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4. Do you really think the cartels are concerned about religion?
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:51 PM
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19. absolutely so
google "Santa Muerte."

you truly don't understand Mexicans or Islamic fundamentalists.
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Edweird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:30 PM
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3. "take over"? Seriously?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:34 PM
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5. Only a little bit more than the sight of whales mating with hamsters.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:34 PM
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6. If it wouldn't surprise you, you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
They are fundamentally opposed to one another in so many ways the very idea is absurd. There is a much better chance that either one would team up with the U.S. military to take out the other, and that just isn't going to happen.


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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:37 PM
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7. But, both groups are basically drug dealers.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:38 PM
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8. So is DEA and CIA. And they already have a head start.
lol
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:41 PM
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9. Did you see this question on Fox?
Look, Drug Cartels are Capitalists.
They have a very profitable illegal product they need to get it to market while competing with other cartels and resisting attempts by anti-capitalistic police forces to stop the sale and distribution of their product.

Islamic terrorists are fanatical religious zealots that want to bring the world of God and stop imperialist societies in the West from controlling the lands that God gave them.

Terrorists, to fund the work of God, will work together with drug cartels on a limited basis. Cartels, to make a profit and get supplies of raw materials, will work with terrorists. But neither really wants to take over the United States in any conventional sense. Sure, Islamic terrorists would like to see an Islamic Republic come to power so we can all be as enlightened as they and worship Allah as the think God intends. Drug Cartels want to reduce the central power of the state in order to ease the flow of their product to customers desperate for their products and services.

Neither group plays well with others, and they have such opposed world views that they could not work together in a long term project to conquer and control the U.S.
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Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:43 PM
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10. Yes.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:47 PM
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14. Gotcha going there? It took your minds off the election for a few seconds, huh?
Fox? What's a Fox???
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:44 PM
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11. Take over what?
:shrug:
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:45 PM
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12. I think you've been listening to Accidental Gov. Brewer too much.
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Dreamer Tatum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:46 PM
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13. If I'm headed to see Brown Dawn at the cineplex, no
If I'm residing in a world with other sane people, no.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:47 PM
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15. there is that language thingy
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:48 PM
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16. My guess would be that neither wants to take over the US, media hype aside. And they'd
likely be at each other's throats in a month or less.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:49 PM
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17. Why would the cartels or terrorists want to take the US over?
The drug cartels just want our money in exchange for their drugs. Terrorists are the ones who want to kill us for religious reasons or ideological ones, but even they don't want to take us over
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:50 PM
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18. How do you know they haven't already..all they have to do is keeping sending the checks to the CoC
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:55 PM
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20. They have one big thing in common...
They're both armed by the U.S. - aren't we proud that we're #1 when it comes to arms sales?!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:56 PM
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21. and they are both swarthy brown types who are media bogeymen
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 02:59 PM
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22. Mexicans and Muslims are media bogeyman...
Drug cartels and terrorists have earned their reputation.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:02 PM
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23. If you're talking about Big Pharma and Black Water, I agree.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:06 PM
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24. I would include them in those categories - though they're hardly alone...
And the U.S. shouldn't be arming any of them, either with guns or the legislative protection that allows them to continue their vile practices.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:08 PM
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25. The teabaggers
would welcome it. It would give them a chance to shoot somebody. Mexicans and Muslims. If you are gay, best stay indoors. Two out of three ain't bad.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:09 PM
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26. Bobbie, are you kidding?
I was just watching James Zogby and he was talking about all the right wing nutcases that are allowed to go on television and to write columns in our major papers and spout off about how much they hate Muslins. And according to Jan Brewer, Mexicans are beheading people at the border. Which is scary except it turns out she's lying.

This is an old scare tactic of Uncle Don Rumsfeld's that was given a lot of coverage by ABC and WorldNutDaily and is still trottted out by the Heritage Foundation.


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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:23 PM
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27. Yeah, I'm kidding but I am bored and wanted to start something outrageous
with this new group of DUers. Guess I succeeded!!!!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:46 PM
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30. LOL. You're so bad.
The Heritage Foundation says Hugo Chavez sends a plane full of uranium to Iran every day. The problem is, Venezuela has no uranium mines but, that doesn't stop the wingnuts from repeating it over and over again.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:24 PM
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28. Yeah, I'm kidding but I am bored and wanted to start something outrageous
with this new group of DUers. Guess I succeeded!!!!
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Yavapai Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:47 PM
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31. They ARE beheading people just across the border.
Go read Borderland beat for a few days and learn. Our main stream media has ignored
this like nothing else I have ever seen. It is almost a full scale war going on just
250 mile south of where I live (Northern Arizona) and we are kept almost totally ignorant
on these stories.

Go to http://www.borderlandbeat.com/

Read stories like: Ambush Kills 6 Prison Task Force Officers
Tijuana: 18 Dead Since Sunday
Ambush Kills 6 Prison Task Force Officers
Falcon Lake Investigator Decapitated, Head Delivered to Mexican Army Base
8 policemen die in Sinaloa ambush
Grenade Attack Leaves 12 Wounded in Nuevo Leon
22 kidnapped in Mexican resort city of Acapulco
U.S. Citizen Shot on Texas Border
University of Texas-Brownsville freshman murdered ...
Family of Kidnapped Mexican Politician Has Paid $20 Million

These samples were just part of OCTOBER 2010, 39 stories so far .
similar stories for the rest of 2010 are as follows:


* ► September (106)

* ► August (118)

* ► July (80)

* ► June (96)

* ► May (113)

* ► April (147)

* ► March (146)

* ► February (125)

* ► January (124)

Some of these crimes are starting to spill across into southern and central Arizona. Examples are gang shootings, safe houses raided by
kidnappers and more. Give this drug Prohibition a few more years and you too will be seeing headless people hanging from an overpass near you.
Your mayors and police will be targets. I am somewhat convinced that the Mexican kidnappers will follow the money and start their very lucrative
businesses here also. Go read and see why people here are nervous!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:51 PM
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32. LOL
:applause:
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:24 PM
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29. Sounds like teabagger porn.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:52 PM
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33. Why would they want to?
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 03:54 PM
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34. Yes. Radical Islamists are not going to partner with infadel Catholics. n/t
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 04:01 PM
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35. They would be committing suicide. Really, doesn't anyone here know that
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 04:03 PM by activa8tr
we have enough well trained folks in the military to put one of them ever 60 feet between the US and Mexico all the way from California to Texas.......and then have another 2 times them to fight those that make it through the border guards.

We also have drones, planes and satellites with cameras, all sorts of ways of stopping them from getting in here.

We cannot do this forever, not while in Iraq and Afghanistan, not while fighting home grown pot growers.

But we CAN defend against the few thousands of people in Mexican drug cartels and the few hundred Islamic terrorists around the world. NO PROBLEM.

A bigger enemy would be killer bees, in the billions, coming from South and Central America, not able to be seen crossing the border, and with a well organized system of attack, well organized system of infiltration.

PLEASE, stop with the fantasies! This is the stuff Fox News puts out there to scare their viewers into watching for another hour.
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Old Troop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 05:52 PM
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36. Apparently you're talking about an off-brand version of "Red Dawn"
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:12 PM
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37. I post stories about serious problems of neglect to Native Americans in the US
and not one response. Today, I post some illogical shit about the Mexicans drug cartels and Islamic Muslims and get like 36 responses.

WOW!! All most of people, here, want to do is argue or put someone down and can't wait for the chance to do it.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:14 PM
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38. I don't think that scenario would happen. However;
The Mexican Drug Cartels should be considered terroristic organizations and we should use our military to deal with them. The cartels outgun our Border Patrol and Police departments easily.

We need to stop the so called "War on Drugs" and come up with a better plan to deal with the drugs coming across that border.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:20 PM
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39. Yes.
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