Is "MAN UP" and "Put your man pants on" sexist?

[itsrobert]

How should a man react to those comments from a woman? Get the old club out?

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[Touchdown]

2. Club wouldn't work. She's always got the rolling pin.

Tell him to turn gay. We don't pull that shit. It is a "Lifestyle Choice" after all.:evilgrin:

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[Glorfindel]

4. Of course those are sexist statements.

A man should respond with a withering glare and icy silence.

[thelordofhell]

5. I'd say

"O.K., get me my beer, bitch."

:toast: :spank:

[Radical Activist]

17. lol

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[thelordofhell]

25. You're assuming I'm talking about women

I'd say that to anyone who told me to "Man up" like those stupid beer commercials. Chill out.

[rug]

6. Don't get your panties in a knot.

[AnnieBW]

7. I dunno about sexist

But low-class, yeah.

[joeybee12]

8. It's homophobic, IMO, sexist also...as if there is a certain way to

act like a man...Angle is a whore...two can play this game.

[blondeatlast]

9. "This isn't about gender and my parents raised me to be a gentleman, so

I'll not respond,": followed by an icy glance over the glasses (a look this spec-wearer knows is quite effective).

Seriously, all male Democratic contenders should start wearing glasses and practice the response.

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[blondeatlast]

11. You again. nt

[KingFlorez]

12. It is

Of course, most wouldn't view it like that, but when it comes down to it, it really is.

[lunatica]

13. Only if "You aren't acting very lady like" is also sexist

I'm being sarcastic. But in all seriousness a woman who says that to a man in a public forum while debating shouldn't then turn around and act like a victim when someone calls her a whore.

But I'd love to see a man rejoinder with "I put my man pants on every morning ma'am. One foot at a time like everyone else" because the audience will laugh and he'll win that point and she'll know she just lost a point.

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[emulatorloo]

15. If you think about it, it is anti-Woman. Female Teabag Candidates are a nutty bunch.

[demmiblue]

34. I agree on both counts. n/t

[Radical Activist]

16. The only time I've heard a women say it

was to shame a man into doing something that was exclusively to her benefit.
A woman I was dating once said it to me. For a variety of reasons, that relationship did not last long.

[Canuckistanian]

18. I would get very angry if a woman used those lines on me

I consider them more of a man-to-man kind of slight. Not exactly what you'd call an insult.

But from a woman, I'd question her motives. She WOULD be trying to insult me.

[femrap]

23. So if a man says this to

you, it's OK...but if a woman says it, you're pissed. Do you see the double standard? The sexism of that comment?

I'm amazed at how touchy the dudes get just over a simple 'Man up.' To me that just means, 'Take responsibility for your actions.

Just on this tread, I've read about 'go get a tampon' (:wtf: ) and 'Bitch.'

Tell me to 'Woman Up.' All it means to me is...'Be responsible for your deeds.'

Just one more thing so I can really get on the Leftie boyz nerves....Don't you find it amazing how the repugnants stand up for their women candidates???? Even big fat ugly Karl Rove got spanked the day after Angle was elected in the primary. He had called her a joke and the next day, after he got the memo, he apologized and has stood strong by her. This is an observation that many political analysts have made and noted.

Many of the Leftie boyz like to call their Dem women, bitches....just look back at the Primary of '08. And 'bitch' is relatively 'kind.'

Gee, I wonder how many more I can add to my Ignore List.

[Canuckistanian]

42. OK, not all men - about 80%

And NO, the statement doe NOT mean 'Take responsibility for your actions'

It means 'Act more macho. Do stupid things and treat women like dirt'.

I forgive you, though. You obviously don't spend much time in the company of large numbers of men who think that they are out of earshot of women.

[femrap]

43. No, I try to keep my distance from

large groups of dudes.

Then why in the hell would Angle say 'Man Up?' Well, I've often said she is a Self-Hating Misogynist. Guess I was right.

When I get pissy, I say to myself....'Be a Woman.' And I get what has to be done, done.

Each generation changes the meanings of words/phrases, I guess.

[lumberjack_jeff]

53. Even that depends

Coming from a wife, close female friend or sister, it's probably constructive criticism.

[spanone]

19. fuckin' a it is. pendulum swings both ways

stay classy....

[JVS]

21. Is it using gender norms to dictate someone else's behavior?

[timtom]

22. No. Not "sexist."

I use the phrase, "Put your big-boy panties on" for men and "Put your big-girl panties on" for women. Equal time for those who need to step up to the plate, suck it up, etc.

[Bigmack]

28. You better be close to those people... friends...

If my boss or co-worker said that shit, I would be very much up in their grill, physically and legally. Friends are one thing. This was a political debate.

What next... calling somebody a "pussy" in a national debate? That's what "man up" means... be a man. Reid is a man.... whether you like his actions or not.

If Reid had responded by telling her she was just PMSing, it would have been on the same level.

[timtom]

30. The OP gave no indication of the back story.

I thought it was a question about modern culture.

[Froward69]

24. IF "panties in a wad" or "who lit your tampon fuse" are sexist

so is "Man up" and "man pants."

[Touchdown]

33. As are "fuck me shorts" and "wife beaters"

:hi:

[proteus_lives]

26. "Ok, you lug this box up three flights of stairs."

[WinkyDink]

27. Tell her you could never be as manly as she.

[Bigmack]

29. Reid should have...

said... in a rising volumn... "Did you just say that.... did you just say that in a debate leading to a US Senatorial election? You are totally inappropriate and I demand an apology before we go any farther in this debate."

[DemocracyInaction]

31. Ahh, ya think she was rehearsed to say that?

These broads (I'm female)are told to do this to get a reaction and then they can play the poor, little girl who gets so upset by the mean old man. By the way, when bimbo asked Biden if she could call him Joe, he should have said "no--I'm not familiar with you".

[blondeatlast]

39. Definitely. nt

[dancingme]

32. and Palin saying Obama doesn't have "cajones"

it's implying that he is not man enough for her. A dig at his manhood because she cannot debate him on the issues.

[SharonAnn]

57. She even got the word wrong. It's spelled "cojones".

[Zax2me]

35. I guess so, yea

Maybe not on the level of something you go to war over.
I get it from women (friends) sometimes but it is always in a non-abrasive way so I take it as such.

[kwassa]

36. It is a manipulation tactic, and an attempt to shut down rational argument.

Implying a lack of manhood if the man does not agree to do what this particular woman wants.

I wouldn't call it sexist, I would call it manipulative.

[HuckleB]

37. Probably. It's certainly juvenile. -eom-

[JoePhilly]

38. He should have said ...

That if we man up and return to the version of the Constitution she prefers, she, and every other woman, wouldn't even be able to vote.

[SoCalDem]

40. Can a male candidate say.."Put on your big lady bra"?

It's sexist, but clever because they know the male candidate dare not respond.. It's Rovian at its "best".

[wisteria]

41. Yes. n/t

[rucky]

44. It's a gender-specific insult.

So yes.

[AnnieBW]

45. It makes the woman sound like every guy's first wife

Or nagging mother-in-law. Seriously. I'm all for women being equal to men, and I'd scream like hell if a male politician told a woman he was running against to "put on her big-girl panties". But, for a woman to say that to a man sounds castrating. Which is, of course, the point. But it does more damage to the woman than to the man.

[seabeyond]

46. it sounds about as bad as blaming the "first wife" bullshit... i hear ya. nt

[pgodbold]

47. When Ann Coulter says it get the club out.

[Jim Lane]

48. Plenty of DUers have said that Reid should "grow a pair".

I'd put that in the same category -- using gender-specific language to refer to something (courage, fortitude, gumption, whatever) that's not specific to one gender.

Other DUers have made the same point just as well by urging Reid to show some backbone. After all, it's easy enough to say that Reid and Pelosi should both have more backbone in dealing with the Republicans, but it would be jarring to urge them both to grow a pair.

I suppose "Man up" is shorter and punchier than "Take responsibility" or "Act like a leader" but I'd still prefer to avoid unnecessarily gender-specific language.

[Sparkly]

49. Yes, I think it is -- and in both directions.

Especially from a woman to a man, it's "emasculating."

However, it's all based on the old idea that being strong in any way is all about being masculine -- having "a pair," having "balls," not being a "pussy," etc...

[blondeatlast]

50. +1. nt

[JitterbugPerfume]

51. yes they are sexist

and when one of these "mean girl" candidates say it the men should call them out on it

[lumberjack_jeff]

52. Usually no.

Used in the way it was directed toward Reid, maybe.

[REP]

54. Is telling myself 'time to nut up or shut up' sexist or confusing, since I'm a chick?

A chick and an Early Cuyler fan.

[Buns_of_Fire]

55. She wants him. Badly. I can tell.

In that context, it's like the girl in the third grade who used to hit me every time I came within striking distance. I never said anything, because she was bigger than I was.

[Synicus Maximus]

56. No. I've been told to man up my whole life,althought I can't

remember a female saying it. As far as "put your man pants on" I've never heard that before, but It doesn't sound sexist to me.

[Obamanaut]

58. The reaction should be to 'man up' and 'put his pants on.' nt