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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:18 PM
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Holder in 2009 said they would not go against state laws on medical marijuana
so why in the world would they go after pot smokers if California does indeed legalize marijuana in November? The excuse I hear alot is that they need to uphold federal law no matter what. But in 2009 the department of justice said that they would no longer go after medical marijuana dispensaries that abided by state laws eventhough they broke federal laws.

So what logical explaination is there for them to not abide by the state laws when it comes to legalization? This is the most harmless drug in the world that could do wonders for our economy. And the majority of the population wants to see it legal. I know that Obama knows better, and what Holder http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/10/16/2010-10-16_attorney_general_eric_holder_federal_laws_enforced_even_if_marijuana_bill_in_cal.html">said about this really upsets me.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:23 PM
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1. and why do war criminals walk around freely...?
:nuke:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:25 PM
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2. That is the $64,000 question.
:nuke:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:42 PM
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4. Worse than that -- why hasn't Habeas Corpus been restored? nt
:thumbsdown:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:42 PM
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3. No doubt because all the corporate interests -- Big Pharma, the Liquor Lobby, the Prison Industry --
Edited on Sat Oct-16-10 06:43 PM by scarletwoman
who hold every branch of our government by the short hairs.

Who keeps the failed "War on Drugs" dragging on decade after decade? Those who profit splendidly from the Drug War aren't going down without a fight. And those who hold profit as sacred above all elese are the ones who control our government.

All our government institutions were long ago taken over to serve the moneyed interests above all.

sw
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:44 PM
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5. Sadly so.
At this point we can't enthusiastically pretend there's any doubt about it.
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dark forest Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:47 PM
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6. Does there have to be one?
A logical reason, I mean.

For God's sakes man, there is an election going on ;-)
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:01 PM
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8. What does an election have to do with this?
The majority of the country supports legalization. The administration didn't even need to comment on this, they chose to.

So yes, I would like a reason.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:05 PM
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11. No shit!
This issue is no longer political suicide.

There's no excuse for Obama to wimp out on prop 19.
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dark forest Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 08:00 PM
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21. This administration has
commented on a number of issues where they could hace kept their mouths dhut.

I suspect political reasons for this. If you do not, well, who is to say that you are wrong?
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 06:52 PM
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7. What about torture? The theft of our national treasury? Monopolies (Anti-Trust suits), etc.?...
Where the fuck is our Attorney General and why isn't he doing his job?



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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:04 PM
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10. What the Ruling Class does is off limits. It's only the proles who must be subject to
the Rule of Law.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:17 PM
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13. "Sod the proles!"
:D



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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:28 PM
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15. Wow! That's an amazing graphic, Swampy!
Someday, these bastards are going to be in for a surprise from the proles...
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:03 PM
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9. And you want logic from a politician??
Good luck with that
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:15 PM
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12. Try here ...
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no limit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 07:21 PM
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14. I get 2 answers from that article, explain them to me
First is that they don't want the price of marijuana to drop to $40 an ounce. Why is this an issue?

Second, they seem to imply international law is far more important than federal law. Because they are saying you can break federal law if you abide by state law but you can't follow state law if it breaks international law. Do you honestly not see how laughable this claim is considering all the shit they pull in the name of national security that clearly not only violates international law but also violates federal law?
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 02:51 PM
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18. One thing is for sure:
This puts an end to the contention that legalization must happen on the state level first.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 05:16 PM
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20. no it doesnt
they said the same shit about persecuting medical cannabis back when prop 215 was being voted on, now over a dozen states have medical cannabis and you can buy it in stores in michigan, colorado, montana, california etc..

full legalization will come about in the same manner

the feds dont have enough agents to prosecute the medical cannabis stores how will they suddenly have the money to go after ten times as many legal cannabis outlets?
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-16-10 08:43 PM
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16. Show us facts, Holder
What health damage does consuming cannabis cause?

How exactly is it more dangerous than tobacco or alcohol?

How has the "war on drugs" been successful?

Why does keeping it illegal benefit drug cartels and gang warfare?

You got nothin' but behind-the-times propaganda, man. Get with it.
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The Uncola Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 10:53 AM
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17. Having been on the frontline..
.. of this battle for going on 5 decades, there is little the "law and order" sociopaths do that surprises me. This is just another example of it. Besides, there's huge profits to be made by exploiting those "dangerous" potsmokers. How dare you question the All American Profit Over People Motive.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 09:30 PM
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22. Indeed...
When I joined Lemar in 1966, we figured 10 years max till we could show folks that the laws are based on lies and propaganda, fueled by greed.

I've been at it ever since as well. I worked hard for CA prop 215, as well as the successful Marin County medical initiative that preceded it.

Thanks for fighting for the miracle plant we aren't allowed to use! :hi:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-17-10 03:01 PM
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19. recommend
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