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Sun Oct-17-10 09:58 AM
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If people who voted for Obama in 2008 are now voting republican in 2010, without a doubt those folks |
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have no idea what they are doing, and have no grasp of the issues
I could have understood if they didn't vote Democratic because they were not happy with the direction, but to say they will now vote republican only exemplifies that there is something lacking in their thinking abilities
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Sun Oct-17-10 09:59 AM
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1. More than likely, they are just sitting home. |
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:00 AM
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2. Except there have been some inane polls out indicating they are voting gop, which is beyond idiotic |
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:50 AM
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15. The idea of people switching is a propoganda push |
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Sun Oct-17-10 02:15 PM
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:01 AM
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3. I don't believe Obama voters in 2008 are voting GOP this year. |
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I do believe some Obama voters in 2008 will not vote in 2010 elections. That's to be expected, even in the best of times. In a time of high unemployment, he's going to lose some of the 2008 "hope" voters.
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:03 AM
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4. The polls are bullshit. |
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x479723The the media is crowing about the latest AP poll, saying a quarter of former Obama voters are going GOP this cycle. But when you actually look at the numbers, it's only 8%. And out of former McCain voters, 9% are going Democrat - which is never part of the headline, of course.
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:07 AM
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6. "which is never part of the headline, of course" |
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Exactly, when one 'drills down' on the actual numbers the facts are often completely opposite to the headline. It is unfortunate some don't go beyond the headline and the deliberate slant therein.
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Sun Oct-17-10 12:25 PM
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22. Fascinating, The AP is in full-blown propaganda mode. |
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:05 AM
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5. Or, more likely, they liked Obama, but don't like other democrats. |
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I know of several people who vote for personalities they like, irrespective of party.
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:11 AM
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7. Even withthe republican spin on the news coming out of congress |
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and person who voted for the Democrats in 2008 who now want to vote for republicans don't know the consquences. Do they think republicans are going to pass laws to benefit them. In the recent months they voted against job bills, they voted against giving those unemployed extension of benefits, they voted against holding wall street and the banks responsible for the mess they made of the economy. These people lost their 401K retirement accounts because of the republican deregulation or lack of regulation of the banks and wall street during Bush's regime. Why do they think that now magically, with this crop of absolute crazy tea bags who are running and may win that the republicans will get a change of heart and do for the people who elected them. I know we have a group of absolute bats**t crazy people in this country but I don't think there are enough of them to elect these tea bags and republicans who will continue to pass laws and do the things that will help corporations and the super rich.
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:22 AM
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8. They just jump onto the side they perceive to be winning - like in sports. nt |
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:26 AM
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9. I know a couple of R's who voted for Obama because they wanted an end to the wars |
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and another who voted for Obama for the first time ever because of her own health care costs. None of them will be voting for him again. They have other issues on which they agree with the Republicans (like abortion or like some misperceptions about taxes).
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:51 AM
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16. yes, republicans want an end to war and socialized medicine |
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Sun Oct-17-10 11:12 AM
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19. Of course not. But obviously that's not the point. nt |
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Sun Oct-17-10 12:40 PM
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24. I know a lot of people like that. |
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they are conservative on social issues, but quite progressive on economic stuff; or the other way around.
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:40 AM
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do you think it helps to insult people?
Lots of voters are very ignorant when they goto the polls. Just look at the people who voted for me.
Seriously, in my own primary election some 20,000 Democrats voted, and the primary reason for the way they voted seems to have been - geography. I took 82% of the vote in my home county and my opponent took about the same in her home county. I took he counties to the north - close to where I live. For example, I took Atchison county with 65% of he vote, and I got clobbered in Cherokee and Labette counties which were close to where my opponent lives.
The other factor that determined how they voted (although this is harder to prove, but I strongly suspect it) - gender. Except for the women in my home county and the ones nearby, I believe many female voters voted for the candidate who is female.
Otherwise, voting looked random, with the three way race being split almost evenly.
And those are democratic primary voters.
The sad truth is that there may be 10-15% who voted for Obama just because they were told he was gonna wind and they went with the flow, jumped on the bandwagon. Now they have been told for over a year that Democrats are gonna lose, and they are gonna jump on that bandwagon, and go with that flow. They only "know" what the M$M tells them - that the stimulus was a failure, that health care reform was unpopular, but Democrats passed it anyway, and that cap and trade would wreck the economy. And that it is the year of the Republican.
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:40 AM
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One person I know of was seriously conflicted between McCain and Obama until Palin was chosen. That was the only thing that tipped the scales. (She also forwards "cute" e-mailed crap about Obama.) There probably were a small percentage of voters like this in 2008. Hopefully they have either wised up in the last two years or just won't vote this time.
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:41 AM
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12. The latest poll says they're going to vote for... |
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... Guy Lombardo and Lawrence Welk.
Polls are BS, except the one on Nov 2.
The rest just give the media a 'horse race' to report on so they don't have to do any real investigative journalism.
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:45 AM
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13. If the media said Obama voters were cannibals, we'd have 15 posts here |
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telling me to stop eating people.
Don't take their bait. :)
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:46 AM
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14. And they really don't give a flying fuck what happens to themselves or America. |
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Sun Oct-17-10 10:58 AM
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17. I wonder how many of them are actually Republicans. |
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Sun Oct-17-10 11:10 AM
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18. I honestly cannot imagine anyone who voted for Obama in 08 and would vote |
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for publicans in '10...after their disgraceful period in congress and in all levels of government. The GOP is the anti American party, and that should be obvious to anyone with any intelligence at all.
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Sun Oct-17-10 11:39 AM
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20. Or...maybe both parties have failed to articulate what they stand for |
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When that happens people are left to vote personalities
Obama's campaign was pretty clear about ending wars and 'universal' !! health care. Hope! Change!
What are the pols running on now? :shrug:
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Sun Oct-17-10 12:29 PM
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23. That or they stand for pretty much the same thing - |
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at least that is how it may appear to moderates who really aren't very involved day to day. Economy not appreciably better, war still going on, etc... It may appear to them that it doesn't really matter who's in charge so they don't bother voting.
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Sun Oct-17-10 11:40 AM
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21. Why would they be voting republican? |
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Sun Oct-17-10 02:19 PM
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26. People who voted for Obama voted Republican in 2008 in Congressional races. |
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Lots of them, too.
Obviously the Democrats have lost support, largely due to the economy. This and the above is what this is about. It means very little about Obama's prospects in 2012, Democratic prospects in 2010 (beyond what is already clear from other polling), or anything else.
:shrug:
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Sun Oct-17-10 02:21 PM
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Some people just like divided govt.
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Sun Oct-17-10 02:24 PM
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28. The same goes for the fringe left that are going to sit this one |
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out. You deserve what you get.
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Sun Oct-17-10 02:30 PM
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29. I know a few 'swing voters'. It boggles my mind, but they switch |
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back and forth between parties. They are not very committed to ideology and tend to vote based on personalities or because of one or two specific issues, without taking into consideration the full range of a party platform and what that means going forward.
The few I know are very low information voters and don't really pay attention to details of a candidate's position, but will latch onto one thing they really like or really dislike. For example, here is NY one swing voter told me he decided to vote for Cuomo instead of Paladino because of the porno emails he forwarded. As if that were the only difference between them!
Current events play heavily into their decisions and I suspect that's why we always get a few last-minute 'surprises' before an election.
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Sun Oct-17-10 04:16 PM
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30. This is just part of being setup to believe the results with the electronic touch screen |
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voting machines. That's all. Now go back to sleep everybody.
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