Poll: Many 2008 Obama supporters defecting to GOP. This anger has reached the pt. of self-destruct,

[Cal33]

it seems. What's left of democracy in our nation isn't much, but voting Democratic
in two weeks would at least prolong its life -- and where there's life, there's hope.

But voting GOP would definitely bring back the days of Bush. He did destroy
a portion of the Constitution of the United States, and the next Neocon president
would definitely try to finish the job altogether. This would mean the death of
democracy, and we could be living in a land controlled by the rich -- a land of the
rich, by the rich, and for the rich. The rest of us would be their servants.

I hope DU members will do what they can to dissuade any people they know of from
switching. This would be cutting off one's own nose to spite one's own face!

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2010/10/poll_many_obama_2008_supporters_defecting_to_gop.php?ref=fpa

[Vincardog]

1. OK I want a show of everyone who plans to vote GOP in Nov. IF no one chimes in can we STFU

about this meme?

[stray cat]

8. The only 2008 Obama supporters in the US are currently posting on DU today?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

10. Well, of course, the ones who stay home and don't vote at all = vote for Republicans...n/t

[LAGC]

11. Well, I plan on voting GOP in Nov.

I'm so sick of those uppity gays trying to assert themselves in the military and trying to convert straight men and women to their homosexual lifestyle choice! What ever happened to decency in the Armed Forces?

We need to quit punishing the producers in this society, if they got wealthy off the backs of middle-class and the working poor, well its not like those poor people didn't CHOOSE to work for them in the first place! Everyone knows poor people don't provide jobs for anyone!

And I'd hate to think the minimum wage might be raised again -- we need to get rid of it and allow the FREE MARKET to decide what a living wage is, like maybe $2/hr. so people can't even afford to buy food, let alone pay rent.

Yeah, I plan on voting for the GOP next month. I'm so sick of the Democrats' liberalism and socialism!

[Cal33]

17. I did not have DU members in mind with my post about Obama

supporters switching to the GOP. But I was asking DU members to try to dissuade
them from switching, should the DU members come across any.

I also think your sarcasm is misplaced, since one DU member does know of someone
who is switching. Please read Post #6 in this thread. And if one member writes
about knowing someone switching, the chances are that there are others who are
switching. I am just putting my 2 cents in trying to help.

[anthroguy101]

2. Quote

"Yet in a reflection of broad dissatisfaction with politics, just as many people who backed Republican presidential nominee John McCain are either supporting Democrats now or still considering how to vote."

[old mark]

3. Total bullshit. There MIGHT be s few non voters, but NO ONE with

any intelligence would vote Republican.

mark

[dkf]

6. My sister says her co worker who works in the public schools has decided to vote Republican

Because she is sick of how things work now.

She doesn't think mainstreaming problem students is good for the classroom and holds back everyone. She thinks it is "liberal" ideas that have messed up education. She sends her kids to private school because she says the current structure does not allow smart kids to excel. Sigh.

[old mark]

22. Well, I went to private schools in the '50's and 60's...They did not really allow smart kids

to excell, either - they just jammed you into classes with more homework.

mark

[Vincardog]

27. As did the public schools, the 'accelerated classes' just lumped us all together so the curve would

higher for us and not so hi for all the mainstreamed children.

[cap]

26. let her coworker go work in the private schools

and forgo all those lovely union benefits like pensions and good salary and benefits. Let her join the ranks take the pittance paid by those upstanding teachers in the private school. Pensions, great health insurance and good pay are very bad things.

[Cal33]

9. I sure hope you are right. But would you, all the same, try to

persuade people from switching to the GOP, if you should come across any?
If we should retain both the House and the Senate, it would be by the
slimmest of margins. Just think of the Republican-made electronic voting
machines that are still being used, and all of their other dirty tricks.
We are not dealing with normal human beings. We are dealing with sickos.

[ProSense]

4. Actually

the headline is complete bullshit. From the AP article:

Among the survey's key findings:

_73 percent of Obama voters now approve of how he's doing his job, 13 percent don't approve and 13 percent have mixed feelings. Nearly half have a very favorable impression of the president, down from two years ago, when two-thirds felt that way.

_40 percent say they're frustrated by his presidency, 20 percent say they're excited, and 26 percent say they are proud — a marked turnaround from Election Day 2008. Still, 59 percent say they remain hopeful — a reason for optimism as Obama gets ready for his likely re-election campaign.

_30 percent of Obama voters say he is living up to his promises to change Washington, while 19 percent say he's breaking those promises. Half think it's too soon to tell.

_76 percent of Obama voters say they will support the Democrat in their House district, while 8 percent plan to back the Republican and the rest are undecided.

_71 percent of McCain voters say they will vote for the Republican in their House district, while 9 percent plan to get behind Democrats and 20 percent haven't chosen a candidate.

Breaking: More Republicans are defecting to the Democratic Party.

Guess what: Not only is 8 percent not a quarter, but also the 8 percent and 9 percent are consistent with the crossover votes in the 2008 Presidential election, meaning that those voters are likely Democrats and Republicans who voted for the other Party. They also didn't specify if these voters are Independents.

As the election draws near, expect the GOP shill media to show their true colors.

[NYCGirl]

5. Liz Sidoti? Really?

AP writer rips Obama, gives McCain doughnuts (true story)

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/ap-scribe-who-s.html

Liz Sidoti at Media Matters:

http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/liz_sidoti

[rainlillie]

7. WOW! it's as if these people didn't live through the Bush years. SMH.

[Cal33]

14. There are some people who become unreasonably vindictive

when things don't go their way. And the longer the provoking situation goes on,
the more vindictive they become, until they lose all sense of proportion.

This is the situation we are dealing with now. Obama isn't able to correct all
of Bush's doing in two years. I don't think anybody can. And Obama, being a
human being, also has made some mistakes of his own.

Two years is a long wait. Some just can't take it any more. They just yield
to their disappointment.

[pinto]

12. Ths actual stats in this poll paint a slightly different picture than being spun in the media -

_76 percent of Obama voters say they will support the Democrat in their House district, while 8 percent plan to back the Republican and the rest (16%) are undecided.

_71 percent of McCain voters say they will vote for the Republican in their House district, while 9 percent plan to get behind Democrats and 20 percent haven't chosen a candidate.

:hi:

:kick:

[still_one]

13. This is pure propaganda. I can understand people who voted for Obama disappointed in the progress

of things, and perhaps not voting, but for those people to say they are now voting with the GOP is either a LIE, or these people are complete idiots and have no understanding on what they are voting on

The poll that is being touted around is an AP poll which has very questionable elements to it. This is NOT an accurate poll, but pure distortion to demoralize and keep progressives home from voting

What it should do is make progressives even more angry

[Historic NY]

19. Exactly all probably KKKRoves designs...to get AP stories out.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

15. this is a load of nonsense

[Champion Jack]

16. Oh look! another doom and gloom post from a new poster

yawn

[mitchtv]

18. with no profile

heh

[and-justice-for-all]

20. I will never defect to the dark side...

and I think that 'poll' is horse shit.

[ThomWV]

21. Wait a minute here - did you all read the whole thing?

How can it be bad when this is hidden in there near the bottom

"_76 percent of Obama voters say they will support the Democrat in their House district, while 8 percent plan to back the Republican and the rest are undecided.

_71 percent of McCain voters say they will vote for the Republican in their House district, while 9 percent plan to get behind Democrats and 20 percent haven't chosen a candidate."

If one presumes there were about an equal number of Obama and McCain voters in the poll this means we are winning among those most likely to vote (those who have recently voted).

[Cal33]

23. I guess you're right. It did escape me. As for the 8% who plan

to back the Republican candidate in their House district, do they expect to have more
"change" with the Republicans now? Most of them backed Obama in 2008 because of the
promised change, did they not? It is the Republicans who are blocking and filibustering
any and every effort of Obama to make changes. It doesn't make sense. I think they
are letting their vengeful anger get the better of them.

[Lilith Velkor]

24. Many 2008 Obama supporters defected *from* the GOP, so it's no surprise.

[cap]

25. where are these people????

Not in my corner of PA! Maybe I am missing something. I keep asking myself, maybe I am wrong but I don't see the switch. I work in the swing area of the swing county of PA and our Democrats are holding firm. We don't have anybody on the rolls who said they switched registration. Less then 10% are undecided and nobody is saying they switched... Even in our opponent's district where he was born, there are only a handful who say they are democrat but voting for him.

Does anybody have any good ideas about where to find these renegade Democrats? Our base is swearing to me that they will vote and they are vehement. Maybe I am not looking in the right spot.