Joe Miller (R-AK) has reporter arrested or asking questions in 'public' building

[Tx4obama]

Joe Miller looks to Eastern Bloc countries for examples of how to keep illegal immigrants out of our country. Update: Miller's hired goons "arrest" reporter.

Update: Teabagger Joe's "security staff" placed the founder of the Alaska Dispatch under arrest!

Full article w/ full update here --> http://theimmoralminority.blogspot.com/2010/10/joe-miller-looks-to-eastern-bloc.html

[Historic NY]

1. He should file a false imprisonment suit.

[cascadiance]

50. It seems that one could claim Miller's people MISUSED public property in renting it!

Or the custodian of said public property didn't properly attach conditions on how it was rented. I think if I was a taxpayer, I'd be pretty upset if a group of private individuals were allowed to "take over" public property and start assaulting those who were trying to use it. It seems that there should be some form of required language when a group "rents" something that normally is the public right of way before they can start "arresting" people.

Also, private citizens usually aren't allowed to do a "citizen's arrest" unless the other person is committing a felony. That's why shoplifting in so many states is a felony and not a misdemeanor, to allow those in stores to arrest and detain those they catch stealing stuff. For misdemeanors, in most states, a private citizen is only allowed to arrest another citizen if a police officer is present and directs him/her to do so. The cops in this case were not telling these guys to "assault" other reporters. They should all sue these thugs!

[dimbear]

2. Joe Miller: master of public relations..........

way to win over the press, Joe! Kidnap 'em.

[dimbear]

3. Joe Miller: master of public relations..........

way to win over the press, Joe! Kidnap 'em.

[Hawkeye-X]

4. Will Alaska newspaper or media report this?

We report, you decide..

[Tx4obama]

6. It's the top story front page of Anchorage Daily News right now.. link below

http://www.adn.com/

[breadandwine]

23. Curious hairdo on those Miller security guards ---

http://www.adn.com/2010/10/17/1506223/miller-security-guards-handcuff.html



http://www.adn.com/2010/10/17/v-gallery/1506223/miller-security-guards-handcuff.html







Skin heads make FINE leaders! The security guys are from Drop Zone Security, a VERY AUTHORITATIVE POLICE ORGANIZATION

~ AND ~

ARMY NAVY STORE. ---


http://www.manta.com/c/mm54pcb/drop-zone-security


SO YOU KNOW THEY'RE LEGIT.

[nmbluesky]

27. Photo. Hitler youth and brown shirts?

did you noticed?

[Tx4obama]

12. Now Channel 2 News (Alaska) is reporting the story....

Channel 2 News (Alaska)
http://www.ktuu.com/news/ktuu-2010elect-miller-security-hopfinger-arrest-101710,0,2454854.story

[Blue_In_AK]

47. Alaska media is all over it.

Actually, Alaska media has been all over Joe Miller since the primary which is why he's so touchy about reporters. He's hiding some big secrets about his former employment with the Alaska North Star Borough, and to the media's credit, they're trying to expose those secrets to the light of day BEFORE the election, unlike how they handled Palin in 2006.

[Canuckistanian]

5. Interesting to hear what the Anchorage police think of this

Can you REALLY detain an accredited reporter in handcuffs for 30 minutes until the police arrive?

[Hawkeye-X]

7. No, and I'm sure plans are underway for a very fat lawsuit against Mr. Joe Miller and Red Dropzone

Security for millions.

Joe, I hope you enjoy being known as the scumbag of Alaska.

Hawkeye-X

[Angry Dragon]

9. That is kidknapping

[breadandwine]

36. Hey, if Rand Paul can kidnap people, why not Miller?

Republicans are above the law.

[tammywammy]

8. How can "private security guards" arrest anyone?!?!?!

Isn't that kidnapping or unlawful imprisonment? They fucking handcuffed a reporter in a public building!

[cascadiance]

51. They can ONLY arrest those they observe comitting a FELONY! NOT a misdemeanor!

A police officer present needs to direct them to conduct an arrest for them to be able to arrest someone legally for a misdemeanor violation or anything else that's not a felony, not the other way around.

[Cognitive_Resonance]

10. K&R nt

[Ramulux]

11. This is big news

What the security guards did was totally illegal. It is now very likely that this guy is going to sue. This is insane shit, I am pretty much positive that this just sunk his campaign.

[frazzled]

13. Do you see a pattern here?

Just a few weeks ago, NY Republican governor candidate Carl Paladino's security staff (henchmen) surrounded and physically threatened the NY Daily News reporter asking questions, at which point Paladino vowed to "take him out."

Now, another Republican candidate has his goons handcuff (handcuff!) a reporter trying to ask questions.

In both cases, when the candidate doesn't want to answer questions, he has his squad intimidate the press, then turn the situation around to suggest the reporter was "pushing" or somehow in the wrong.

I hope this reporter sues for false imprisonment.
I hope the media cares that serious reporters are being treated in this manner.

[Cognitive_Resonance]

16. These characters must be working from the same script. nt

[gratuitous]

22. Well, why shouldn't Republican candidates do that?

I mean, for damn near 10 years the media rolled over like puppies and piddled themselves in their excitement to be abused by the Bush cabal. Impertinent questions were "noted in the building," and nobody had the intestinal fortitude to ask substantive questions when Bush sent the military out to invade another nation that hadn't done anything to us. Cheney shot a man in the face, then retired to the dining room for the evening repast, for fuck's sake. Nobody said "boo," and the victim even apologized publicly to Cheney for taking a face full of bird shot.

With that kind of a record, why wouldn't Republican candidates expect the media chuckleheads to take more abuse than a Filipino flyweight? I'm in favor of the media actually rearing up on their hind legs and getting back at the Republicans. That hand isn't feeding you: Bite it!

[Tx4obama]

14. More info on link below...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4578448

[Gold Metal Flake]

15. Hm. Will the Corporate-owned "liberal media" understand?

Do they really like serving these insane right wing masters?

[Brother Buzz]

17. LOL, it's fair to say Miller doesn't like the Alaska Dispatch, what with the lawsuit, and all...

but the blowback from this event is going to bite him in the ass.

:rofl:

[breadandwine]

25. That reporter was guilty of very serious crimes ---

threatening the NEW RIGHT WING ORDER


and being


UP TO NO GOOD.


It's also certain he had a


BAD ATTITUDE.


He shouldn't have been stickin his nose in Miller's BUSINESS where it don't belong.


Miller's security guards need to get together with the Wiking (Wiking.org) Nazi reenactment group of Rich Iott who is running against Marcy Kaptur in Ohio.

Together they will RESTORE ORDER ---


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZa-dVFE0vg&feature=player_embedded#!

[breadandwine]

26. The librul media is a communist cancer that must be rooted out........

That reporter is lucky he made it out ALIVE.


NEXT TIME DON'T MESS WITH THE RIGHT WING ORDER.

[Brother Buzz]

41. Miller: "Ask me no questions and I'll tell you no lies"

:rofl:

[Tx4obama]

18. Huffington Post just put up an article regarding the inncident. Link below

Joe Miller Security Guards Handcuff & Detain 'Alaska Dispatch' Editor
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/18/joe-miller-security-guard_n_766010.html

[Tx4obama]

19. OMG !!! This story is now on the front page of HuffPo TOP HEADLINE

I emailed them when the story first broke in Alaska.
I wonder if they read my email :)

[TomCADem]

20. Absolutely Disgusting ...The Astroturf Is Starting To Show...

It is getting tough for the corporate media to portray Joe Miller as a grass roots candidate when his private security detail is roughing up local reporters. I guess he will stick to Fox News.

[breadandwine]

30. Miller's security detail company has class ----

They double as an Army Navy store ----


http://www.manta.com/c/mm54pcb/drop-zone-security

[Tx4obama]

21. The story is here to stay. The AP /Associated Press has picked it up!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_ALASKA_SENATE_EDITOR_DETAINED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2010-10-18-00-14-13

[breadandwine]

32. AP is only paying lip service. That is a very meager article.

.....

[Cognitive_Resonance]

24. This kind of thing usually strikes a nerve among the journalism community.

It will be interesting to watch the intensity of coverage. One factor will be the Miller campaign reaction. The sensible thing for them to do is contritely walk it back. If their response is an arrogant FU, look for the story to really escalate.

[Swamp Rat]

28. Joe Miller just lost the election.

:)

[Rex]

29. Can you believe how brash these arrogent pricks are getting?

Thank goodness they didn't hurt the poor guy. Hey Joe...hope you have some hobbies, because politics won't be one of them! :rofl:

[Swamp Rat]

33. Yeah, but they are fucking up big time.

Some of the teabaggers are just too 'moranic' to survive their own campaigns.... They are killing themselves and I am entertained. :popcorn: :smoke:

I hope the neighbors don't mind a little AC/CD right now. :headbang:


Inject the Venom

No mercy for the bad if they want it
No mercy for the bad if they plead
No mercy for the bad if they need it
No mercy from me
Tell no truth an' tell no lies
Cross your heart and hope to die
Never give what you can't take back
Scratch like a cat
If you inject your venom
It'll be your last attack

No mercy for the bad if they want it
No mercy for the bad if they plead
No mercy for the bad if they need it
V.e.n.o.m.

Got no heart, no feel no pain
Take your soul and leave a stain
Come choose your victim
Take him by surprise
Go in hard and get him
Right between the eyes and
Inject the venom
Inject the venom, c'mon
Inject the venom
Inject it all
Stick it in
Stick it

Inject the venom
Inject the venom

Inject the venom
Get it all
Inject the venom
Inject the venom
Inject it all

Inject the venom

[Rochester]

31. In Alaska, one does not need a CCW permit.

The reporter and his fellow reporters should take note of that and be prepared next time a so-called private guard tries to prevent them from doing their jobs in a public place.

[NBachers]

34. Ahh, the "overzealous rogue security guard" defense

but, really, who can blame these security guys?

That phony blog "journalist" had it coming to him.

It's about time.

[SoCalDem]

35. How can a hired goon "arrest" anyone legally?

They can detain someone, but as soon as the real cops show up, unless there has been a theft or a physical altercation, I cannot see how anyone gets arrested...except for maybe the persons who detained:)

[Swamp Rat]

37. Joe Miller just handcuffed his bid for the Senate to the Exxon Valdez

I will be very surprise if media do not eat him alive. :D

[breadandwine]

38. Defectors from Miller will go to Murkowski first. This still doesn't help McAdams.

....

[Swamp Rat]

40. GOOD!! 'Senator Joe Miller' would be a clear and present danger for all of us.

eom

[Blue_In_AK]

48. Again, I ask "Why are you so negative?"

Are you a Murkowski plant? True, some Republicans may turn back to Murkowski, but those who were going to, probably already have. Dems and left-leaning independents are now free to vote for the real liberal in this race. The difference between how Lisa or Joe would vote in the Senate is the difference between "No" and "Hell, no." In other words, no difference at all.

Lisa Murkowski is not a moderate. She's just not batshit crazy.

[Hannah Bell]

39. wtf?

[demmiblue]

42. K&R

:kick:

[demmiblue]

43. Partial VIDEO here:

http://palingates.blogspot.com/2010/10/breaking-news-from-sarah-palins-alaska.html

(Look under UPDATE 2)


Or, you can view the direct YouTube link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL5mNUKpN1g&feature=player_embedded



This video shows a little snippet of what went on in the hallway as the reporter was being "arrested." This is the first of many to come, I think. One person commented that there where, "a lot of videos going on."

[struggle4progress]

44. Alaska Civil Pattern Jury Instructions

http://www.courts.alaska.gov/juryins.htm

For battery,

1. An act of the defendant resulted in a harmful or disagreeable touching of the plaintiff;
2. The defendant acted with the intent to touch the plaintiff in a harmful or disagreeable way;
3. The plaintiff did not (consent) (cause the defendant to reasonably believe the plaintiff consented) to the acts of the defendant and their likely consequences.

For false imprisonment,

(1) The defendant did something or said something which resulted in the plaintiff being confined; and
(2) The defendant acted with the intend to keep the plaintiff confined; and
(3) The plaintiff knew of the confinement <or was seriously harmed by the confinement>; and
(4) The plaintiff did not <consent><and/or say anything or do anything to cause the defendant reasonably to believe the plaintiff consented> to being confined.

The false arrest instructions may also be relevant

[tblue37]

45. He can't have him "arrested." His private militia has no legal

authority to make arrests. What he did was have him kidnapped and falsely imprisoned.

[Scurrilous]

46. K & R

:thumbsup:

[Tx4obama]

49. ADN has NEW video of Joe Miller's jack booted thugs bullying OTHER journalists. Video link below

http://www.adn.com/2010/10/17/1506223/miller-security-guards-handcuff.html

[malaise]

52. This was not an arrest - it was a kidnapping

Miller's goons have no authority to arrest anyone.

I hope the journalist sues the pants off of this fascist.