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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:25 AM
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The Obama signed health bill made sure...
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 07:46 AM by SHRED

...that corporate profit margins would be sustained in our health care system. That capitalism would write the rules.

No public option.
No single-payer.
Not even a 55+ Medicare option.

And yet the Tea Bag freaks/Repubs insist it is a "marxist", "socialist", and "communist" bill.

What are these freaks drinking for breakfast?

:crazy:
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:26 AM
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I don't know what they're drinking
but, I wish it was Drano.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:26 AM
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1. they don't like the massive subsidies for the poor
to buy insurance.

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:29 AM
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2. Why are you using the republican 'Obamacare' on DU?
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:32 AM
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4. I didn't realize that it....

...was used solely by the Repubs.

In fact I know I have seen it in leftwing blogs.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:43 AM
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10. It's a putdown.
If you've seen it in leftwing blogs, they're pushing the anti-health care agenda.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:34 AM
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5. no worse than you using that circle D bullshit!
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:51 AM
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17. It comes from the DNC
http://www.democrats.org/ You know, Democrats.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:56 AM
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36. You know, the ones who chased Dean out into the wilderness
That's why I use a donkey, and you can keep the circle. I'm not forgetting what it means to be a Democrat.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:28 AM
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28. How long do you think it will be before we see
the circle D on republican bumper stickers with a red slash through it? I don't accept it.I'll stick with the :dem:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 05:53 PM
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43. You and me both
:hi:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:49 AM
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40. Though it would make a nifty convenience store logo.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 10:52 AM by mmonk
"Good bye dear, I'm heading over to the Circle D."
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:36 AM
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7. You're right. Romneycare is more accurate.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 07:37 AM by ClassWarrior
NGU.

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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:49 AM
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15. The Affordable Health Care Act is accurate.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:16 AM
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23. Technically but nothing in the bill makes health CARE affordable.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:28 AM
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29. Wellllllll it will down the line, it has to all get in play.
:hi:
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:30 AM
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30. The sad thing is you actually believe that. n/t
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:59 AM
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21. I call it Obamacare. I did not know that was
republican.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:14 AM
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22. It is.
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Autumn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:24 AM
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26. I still like it. It's better than the republican
plan of NoMammacare.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:26 AM
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27. It's all yours.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:31 AM
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3. They don't really believe...
that the new health care law is socialist or Marxist....it just sounds good in order to continue the "narrative" about Obama and weaken him....the tea party folks make no sense whatsoever.....
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:22 AM
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25. they aren't paid to make sense. n/t
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Sal Minella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:30 AM
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35. Good bumpersticker.

Teabaggers:

We're not paid to make sense;
We're paid to make noise.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:36 AM
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6. "Obamacare" sounds like a republican commercial.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:38 AM
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8. It's used by...
...those on the Left also who are upset with it.

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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:44 AM
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12. No it was first used as a racist right wing meme. n/t
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:45 AM
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13. Assuming you are on the left, then it's the first I've heard it from the left.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:49 AM
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16. I have been here since '03


So that means I am not to the Left enough!

LOL
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:50 PM
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41. I did not say that you are "not to the Left enough". Read the post. I copied it here:
Assuming you are on the left, then it's the first I've heard it from the left.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:51 AM
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18. It's used by ignorant assholes of all stripes, to be sure
:eyes:
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:40 AM
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9. So what about "these freaks" on DU that love Obamacare
when it "made sure that corporate profit margins would be sustained in our health care system. That capitalism would write the rules.

No public option.
No single-payer.
Not even a 55+ Medicare option. "

Shit like this is why most people don't vote. Neither side has an ounce of credibility anymore.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:44 AM
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11. we need to purge the Democratic Party...

...of the sheep in wolve's clothing.
Vote out the DLC Blue Dogs.

In fact we need a systemic change in our election system.
Publicly financed elections.
Yeah...repealing corporate "personhood", like that is gonna happen.
Never mind.
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:55 AM
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19. 'freaks'?
Do you mean Democrats on DU?
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:56 AM
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32. that is what it says.
That would be one set of people.

THe point of my post was that the OP bashed Obamacare something protecting corporate profits and not doing shit for the public, and implied the tea party should love it (or at least not whine about it). yet isn't htat bill what dems and Obama are supposed to tout as being awesome?

Should we be proud of something we did, yet is something the tea party should be content with?

Im convinced most people don't vote because they see this type of arguing in politics and think the people involved are just shitheads looking to yell about something.
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:46 AM
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14. There...is that better?
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:56 AM
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20. It's an improvement.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:19 AM
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24. They lack an understanding of 'socialism' and 'marxism' ...
... they just like to throw foreign-sounding buzzwords around, like their heroes Beck and Limpy do, to make themselves feel intelligent.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:34 AM
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31. They know what sells. Next question?
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:05 AM
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33. The problem with triangulation, in a nutshell.

The problem for Democrats trying to defend the business-comprompised healthcare reform is that it is

1) Watered down so much in favor of business interests that most of the possible benefit is destroyed.

2) Still guaranteed to be denounced as wildly "leftist" "Marxist," etc. by Republicans / conservatives.


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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:22 AM
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37. +1
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:07 AM
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34. Guess they haven't checked their insurance premiums lately, nor have they used their "benefit."
Benefit? :puke:
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:46 AM
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38. They also insist Obama is a far left POTUS.
They're obviously stupid.
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Egalitariat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:46 AM
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39. The health bill was the first domino in a series of events that will kill the insurance industry
altogether within a decade, leaving us no choice but to go to a universal single payer system.

It is, by far, the most strategically brilliant move that Obama has made as President.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:55 PM
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42. Yep--that's what all the scrambling is about--they know their era is over,
and they are doing everything they can to wring every last drop out of the sponge while they can.
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pgodbold Donating Member (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:05 PM
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44. Elephant urine. nt
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