Rubicon

[montanacowboy]

Series final last night - this is such an excellent well done show. But what it shows us is that manipulation of intelligence is done to start illegal wars and enrich the few - when the analyst finds proof of all this against his boss a Cheney-like like creature, the creature says...so what - print all your proof, go ahead and print it, and you know what??????

No one will give a shit!!! and that really says it all, no one gives a shit.
No matter what comes out, what proof of treason or torture or murder, no one gives a shit because nothing ever comes of it.

It will be interesting to see next season how Will deals with this.

[still_one]

1. unfortunately Spangler is right. My question is the neighbor across the hall to be trusted? /nt

[Demoiselle]

5. No, she's not to be trusted.

And why in hell didn't Will pick up the dvd when it fell out of Ms. Rhumor's hands? AND I expected Spengler to jump off that roof right in front of Will. Isn't that the message the clover sends...That it's your turn, buddy, to sacrifice for the cause?
My my my I have come to really like the series.

[WhiteTara]

7. yeah, my question.

Why didn't he pick up the dvd? I thought that was horrible. She died and it meant nothing.

[left coaster]

10. WhiteTara, that part really drove me nuts, too! grrrr... nt

[Demoiselle]

11. The actor who plays Spengler is very interesting...

He's also a playwright...an award winning playwright, the Pulitzer Prize for a play called Shadow Box, among others. He's a director too .
His creepy Spengler is really very fine, lots of nice tics and twitches. I also love the guy with the short grey hair who cleaned up the attempted murder scene for Will.
Of course, he is completely without twitches, which makes him a nice contrast.

[still_one]

12. I thought he was going to jump off the building in front of Will also /nt

[Duer 157099]

15. I think Spangler was considering jumping, but his talk with Will convinced him that it wasn't

necessary.

Will not picking up the DVD also bugged me, in the same way that Katherine could have told will what David said when they were on the phone.

I think season 2 will show us what we already know: they don't need to hide anymore, they can do their evil deeds in plain sight.

[dgibby]

2. How did I miss this?

Do you have a link/channel? Any place I can catch reruns?

[Mz Pip]

3. AMC

It's on before Mad Men. You can probably get it On Demand if you have that.

I've watched it and for most of the season I kept wonder why I was watching it. It moved so slowly and was often too convoluted to follow. But it got better at the end of the season. Haven't watched the finale yet, but last week was quite an episode.

I think it also highlights just how difficult it is to get accurate intellegence.

[montanacowboy]

4. Bingo!

you can see how the analysts are pressed to come to the "right" conclusion which of course their boss the Creature desires, war with Iran. Easy to see how all this could have happened at CIA during run up to Iraq war - analysts being pressured by their bosses to come to a predetermined conclusion.

[WhiteTara]

6. the piano almost drove me nuts in the beginning

and I too wondered why, but couldn't stop watching.

And not only to get accurate intelligence, but intelligence that isn't tainted by the "powers" for their own purposes. I also, thought it showed the possibility of 9/11 being an inside job. I couldn't help thinking of the Carlyle group just down the street when it all happened.

[dgibby]

16. Thank you so much.

Hope I can catch up. Sounds good.

[EC]

8. It's slow but good...

I happen to like MI5 better in their presentation of corps and government fanatics contriving events toward outcomes collusive to the corp...i.e. wars

[left coaster]

9. Yep.. disaster capitalism.. art imitates life on Rubicon..

Read Naomi Klein's book, if you haven't already..

http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine

[SoCalDem]

13. I tried to like this show, but it lost me about episode 4

Now they have one about Zombies starting up:) I think I'll pass..

[pgodbold]

14. I'm lovin' Rubicon. I have hopes that somehow the DVD comes to him. nt