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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:09 PM
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The Great Financial Crisis - Three Years On
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 01:09 PM by blindpig
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Financial bubbles are invariably symptoms of deeper underlying problems. To focus simply on subprime loans, or even the housing bubble itself, as the real cause of the crisis—as most orthodox economic commentators have done—is thus to mistake the symptom for the disease. If it hadn’t been for the housing bubble in the United States, there would have been another bubble that would have likely led to essentially the same results. Since the 1970s, the economy has seen more and more “credit crunches,” with central banks each time rushing in at the first sign of trouble to bail out failing financial institutions. This, however, has contributed to the growing financial fragility, while the underlying problem of stagnation has remained unaddressed.

Three years since the onset of the Great Financial Crisis, matters have become so serious that Paul Krugman, winner of the Bank of Sweden’s Nobel Memorial Prize in the Economic Sciences, has declared that we are now in (or entering) a Third Depression, i.e., a third period of economic stagnation. This Third Depression, he suggests, resembles both the stagnation that began in Europe and the United States in the 1870s, which he labels the Long Depression, and the stagnation of the 1930s, or the Great Depression. As Krugman writes: “We are now, I fear, in the early stages of a third depression. It will probably look more like the Long Depression than the much more severe Great Depression. But the cost—to the world economy, and, above all, to the millions of lives blighted by the absence of jobs—will nonetheless be immense.” Krugman contends that “this third depression will be primarily the result of a failure of policy”—the continuation, even in a severe downturn of the neoliberal policy of austerity aimed at erasing government deficits, as opposed to adopting a strong Keynesian stimulus policy as a way out of the crisis.1

It is true that misguided neoliberal deficit-fighting economic policies during a slump will cause further damage to economic prospects. But Keynesian stimulus offers no genuine solution. The real problem, we argue, is not economic policy but capitalist development itself. Our thesis, in the briefest possible terms, is that the advanced capitalist economies are caught in a tendency to stagnation resulting from the dual processes of industrial maturation and monopolistic accumulation. Financialization (the shift in the center of gravity of the capitalist economy from production to finance) is to be regarded as a compensatory mechanism that has helped to lift the economic system under these circumstances, but at the expense of increased fragility. Capitalism is thus caught in what we call a “stagnation-financialization trap.”

All of this is connected to the class structure of monopoly-finance capital, which has produced levels of inequality without precedent in the advanced capitalist world. The so-called “Forbes 400,” the 400 richest Americans, now own about as much wealth as the bottom half of the population, some 150 million people. A number of Citigroup analysts have recently argued that the United States and other rich economies are now so top heavy from the standpoint of wealth and income distribution that they are best described as “plutonomies,” in which small class fractions control increasingly large portions of social wealth.2

http://www.monthlyreview.org/101001foster-magdoff.php

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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 02:40 PM
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1. kick
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:29 PM
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3. Rec'd n/t
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:05 PM
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2. Thanks!! K&R
let's try this again...
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:39 PM
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4. K&R -- keep up the good fight, blindpig.
Unchecked rapacious capitalism is going to be the downfall of our society.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 11:30 AM
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20. Thanks, sw

If we are not prepared to stand up to the thieves as the French are we are letting everyone down. We in the belly of the beast have a special responsibility.

This whole 'austerity' craze ain't nothin' but macro-economic bullying by the ruling class.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 05:45 PM
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21. "This whole 'austerity' craze ain't nothin' but macro-economic bullying by the ruling class." Amen!
That says it all!

:thumbsup:
sw
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:39 PM
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5. Financialization starves the reinvestment of the industrial base....
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 06:54 PM by Junkdrawer
Easy, financial services profits of 30% or more wins out over the 6% returns of investments in industry. Oh, eventually this brings the system to its knees, but what a ride while it lasts!
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:40 PM
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6. knr
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:53 PM
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7. Dear sweet Jesus, what a piece of drivel. Hasn't this crap been posted here before?
I swear I've seen this drivel posted before.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:04 PM
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10. What exactly about the article is "drivel"? Please be specific. nt
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:11 PM
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13. Why can't you just accept all the Recovery Propaganda and be happy?
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 07:12 PM by TheWatcher
Why should he have to explain what is so crystal clear, for the simple fact, that, well, that's what we're told?

It's people like you who are destroying the Economic Prospects of this country, because you won't roll over, fall down, numb out, and lick boots, and dispense with all this independent thinking and analysis.

Remember, these are the ways of Al Qaeda, and I can't imagine why you would want to appear like an American Hating Terrorist, just because you insist on looking at reality, instead of wallowing in Managed Perception.

When I lay down for sleep tonight, I will pray for your soul, and that somehow, the warm light of seeing five fingers will melt the icy block of corruption and dangerous critical thinking that has somehow consumed your mind and body.

Remember, Recovery begins with your perception.

You're either with us, or against us.

Please Wake Up, and Smell the False Paradigm before it's too late.

:sarcasm:
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:45 PM
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14. I will be going to watch "mythbusters" forthwith,
because science is very important.

People living in tents and sleeping on the streets - well they should have paid attention in science class so they could be productive citizens.
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:53 PM
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15. Now you're falling into line.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 07:55 PM by TheWatcher
I was so worried we would lose you to this dangerous cult of realism that's threatening the very foundations of this country.

You must remain vigilant though.

When you feel yourself having an independent thought or feeling, just remember:

Perception is the Gateway to Salvation.

Relax and Rest Easy, Citizen. That was a Close One. :)
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 07:56 AM
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17. Like da lady said...

care to elaborate? You should hope to 'drivel' like Foster and Magdoff.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:00 AM
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18. It's the weekly Horror Serial ... "OMG, We're All Going to Die!"
Each week we have an installment of it.

The sky is always falling.

The end is always near.

It's just a matter of time before only gold and ammo will see you through.


I suppose it should be comforting that the crazy ideas of the right and left merge around these dooms day concepts.

Let's hope the rapture gets all those consumed by this fantasy, and we can get some rest from it.
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 06:57 PM
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8. Value
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 06:58 PM by Cal Carpenter
The only thing left with value is money, it seems. Nothing tangible matters. The economy has nothing to do with what you and I need on a daily basis. And what is more valuable than what you and I need on a daily basis?

This economic system, liberal capitalism, makes no sense. It is indefensible. In practice, as in theory, it is hollow; it rewards greed and inherited wealth and screws everyone else.

K & R.
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Panaconda Donating Member (672 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:04 PM
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"There is only one possible solution to this all-encompassing planetary crisis, and that is the euthanasia of capitalism, replacing it with a new economy geared to sustainable human development, ecological plenitude, and the cultivation of genuine human community. The sooner we begin to construct this qualitatively new system through our mass struggles, the better the long-term prospects for humanity and the earth will be."

K&R
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:05 PM
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11. K&R this post. nt
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 07:50 AM
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16. Ya beat me to the punch...

that is the 'money shot'.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:06 PM
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12. k & r
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:01 AM
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19. Well deserved KICK and Rec
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