AquaBuddhaGate UPDATE: Yarmuth (D-KY) & McCaskill (D-MO) Slam Jack Conway

[Amerigo Vespucci]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/18/conways-attack-on-paul-sl_n_767169.html



WASHINGTON -- Democrats in Kentucky and elsewhere seem ready to bail -- perhaps wholesale -- on Democrat Jack Conway for his "mocking Christianity" attack on Dr. Rand Paul.

"I wouldn't have done it," Rep. John Yarmuth, the popular Louisville Democrat who is also a member of the House leadership, told The Huffington Post. "And it looks like it's backfiring."

Yarmuth spoke to me before a planned appearance on "Hardball" with Chris Matthews, in which Matthews harshly grilled Conway about a new TV ad and debate attack. In them, Conway says that Paul "mocked Christianity" by being a member in college of a group that had been banned for its activities by school authorities.

Sen. Claire McCaskill of Missouri criticized the ad theme, and other Democrats have privately done so, but open criticism from the politically savvy Yarmuth -- on the ballot in Kentucky with Conway -- is a sign that the ad is rapidly coming to be regarded as a one-step-too-far move in a year in which nothing seems to be over the line.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/18/conways-attack-on-paul-sl_n_767169.html

[OHdem10]

1. These Democrats eat their own. They gave Tweety the permission

to go after Jack Conway in his interview.

May I remind Democrats. No matter how crazy the Republican
candidates seem when they throw garbage and I mean garbage
at our President and our candidates--The Republicans in office
remain silent. They will not give the Media permission
to go after in a big way any TeaBagger.

Matthew Dowd: The two Parties have it wrong. The Republicans
think the Media is their enemy and they are wrong. The Democrats
think the Media is their friend and they are wrong.

This is so true Mr. Dowd.

[DefenseLawyer]

2. Ewwwww we're afraid to go with you Bluto, we might get in trouble! n/t

[Fuzz]

3. I agree with them. The ad is stupid. Keep religious bullshit out of politics.

If an atheist, like me, were to run for political office I could just imagine the kind of ads if I lived somewhere else besides Jersey. What's next, calling a jew a Christ killer in a political ad?

[monmouth]

6. Yet they have no problem (Pubs) still questioning POTUS about

his religion. I guess it's okay if the pubs do it...

[Fuzz]

12. I have no idea what they have said about that, but that is fucking bullshit

as well.

[Telly Savalas]

37. If you're so keen on the way Republicans do things, join them.

[monmouth]

45. ???????

[name not needed]

31. +1

[Gold Metal Flake]

36. Here is your fainting couch

[Fuzz]

38. That post read like I was getting fainty? Ridiculous.

:eyes:

[gratuitous]

4. Now that's interesting!

Golly, all of a sudden we're canvassing every Democrat in the nation on one candidate's ad, and ad that isn't really aimed at them. Well done, Huffington Post. Can we look forward to similar solicitation of Republican reactions to Republican ads in other states? What do Minnesota Republicans think of Carl Paladino's ads? Or what do Iowa Republicans think of Meg Whitman's ads? Would they run similar ads? Are Republican ads "backfiring"? I eagerly await a fair and balanced article framed for the Republicans.

Ooh listen! Crickets!

[frylock]

13. really? you really just blamed huffpost for the dems call out on conway?

even when it's the dem establishment fucking up it's huffpost's fault. is that what i'm reading here?! fuck me.....

[gratuitous]

18. Perhaps I read it wrong

I don't routinely click on Huffington Post links, because it seems to gum up my computer with all sorts of malware whenever I go to that site. But from my reading of the post, it appears that this was an article original to Huffington Post, and it appears that Huffington Post solicited reactions from other Democrats to the Conway ad. I'm happy enough to be corrected.

But as I originally responded, I haven't seen a whole lot of reactions from out-of-state Republicans to local ads run by other Republican candidates. There appears to be one set of rules for Democrats and a different set for Republicans, and it just happens to play out in the Republicans' favor.

As to the Conway ad itself, it appears that Mr. Paul has invited scrutiny of his religious beliefs by his prior statements during the campaign. And while Mr. Paul was in a high righteous dudgeon about the Conway ad during their debate, I notice that Mr. Paul never quite got to the point of denying the facts of the Aqua Buddha episode. Surely that omission was just an oversight. By someone.

[Old and In the Way]

5. Pointing Paul's hypocrisy on his religious pandering is off-limits.

Republicans own the franchise on using Jesus Christ to further their amoral political agenda. Some Democrats believe it. Way to throw your fellow Democrat under the bus. Funny, you never see a Republican speaking ill of another Republican (St. Ronnie's 11th Commandment).

[JohnnyLib2]

8. LOL!

"Republicans own the franchise on using Jesus Christ to further their amoral political agenda."

What a terrific (and true) line! :evilgrin: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[blondeatlast]

27. +1. nt

[frylock]

7. why aren't they attacking republicans?

so tell me again how it's the professionals on the left and the malcontent lib baggers that will be the downfall of the party?

[golddigger]

9. Freakin idiots, the Dems and this administration

do not know when to keep their fuckin mouths shut. Damn it!

[spanone]

10. really? he was on hardball and had a lot of supporters there.

[JI7]

11. Wingnuts do it to Dems all the fucking time and NOW they are outraged ?

usually i wouldn't like this ad but the republicans have done it to Dems so much. just look at how they say Obama can't be a Christian. they said Kerry was going to ban the bible.

i really don't care but there are a lot of conservatives in the state and if Conway can win using this against PAul i just can't get outraged about it for the above reasons.

[AndrewP]

15. Same here. I'm fine with it.

I'm tired of getting the Dukakis treatment.

[Parker CA]

20. The ultimate double standard, and some dems along with msm do nothing to point this out. Total BS.

[alsame]

14. My problem with the ad is that it doesn't address the

real issues with Paul, his current extreme views.

I'm not in KY and haven't seen other ads, but he should be attacked for wanting no regulation, no social programs, etc. Things that would affect people today. He has expressed enough extremist views to provide ample material for an attack ad that is relevant today.

That being said, Yarmuth and McCaskill should just keep their mouths shut.

[BlueIdaho]

16. God save us all from the "reasonable man."

In an time when foreign governments and international companies can spend limitless laundered dollars to help elect officials that are ready, willing, and able to ship our jobs overseas, destroy Medicare and Social Security, and evaporate the middle class - we need to stand behind Democrats, not pull the rug out from under them.

[blue sky at night]

17. I thought you had to be an adult to vote....

anyone claiming such should be able to see the forest for the trees on the massive douche-bag that is the rand...the pukes can do and say anything, and they do...but if a dem speaks up on this kind of issue, it is over the line....go for it I Say!

[Monique1]

19. Dems never learn

to stop eating their own. They are are wimps. At this time of the election period - they throw Conway under the bus for poor wittle Rand Paul. WTF? Guess the Dems want Rand Paul - I don't want to hear one Dem whine if Paul wins.

[blue sky at night]

23. you know the term whimps....

came to mind, but i guess i don't want to admit they are. you called that one.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

21. I have no faith in that state anyway

Senator Rand Paul. Unreal.

[Wash. state Desk Jet]

22. The public has a right to know about aqua buddha !

And I really don't see why Rand didn't just say back than he was a lush and saw god as aqua buddha -some see their higher power as a coffee pot or what ever so what's the gaffe !

Just the same the public has a right to know the origins of origination of aqua buddha !

[JohnnyLib2]

24. Hey! Workin' hard to replace the great Sen. Bunning....

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :sarcasm:

[BootinUp]

25. Yarmuth on Tweety now, I assume Tweety will ask him about this. nt

[Ellipsis]

26. Aquabuddha.com... you know somebody was going to do it.

http://www.aquabuddha.com/


ALL HAIL AQUA BUDDHA.

If I had to guess it was probably the name of the bong they used.

[polichick]

28. Dumbshit Democrats - when will they learn?! nt

[Radical Activist]

29. They should have taken this popular advice.

[dhill926]

30. All I want to know is.......

how is this playing with voters in Ky.?

[Canuckistanian]

32. Troops! Form a circle! Ready.... Aim......

Oy. :eyes:

[rucky]

33. This is why we lose. n/t

[butterfly77]

34. So called Dems..``

no matter what just wait for some dem to jump their ass out their to help the republicons..

[Gold Metal Flake]

35. Dems having the vapors.

Quick, to the fainting couch!



Oh great and powerful Magic Sky Daddy, please save this country from wimpy Democrats.

[Raine]

39. Stick to the issues

and forget the religious crap, it's a loser for the Democrats.

[DefenseLawyer]

40. And you base this assertion on what?

That Democrats who "take the high road" and stick to the issues always win? That those who play to win always lose? When you say "it's a loser", what you really mean is "I find it distasteful". I have news for you, candidates that make campaigns personal and who can successfully define their opponents negatively don't lose.

[Raine]

42. No I don't find it distasteful they can drag them down into the

sewage from whence they come for all I care. I just find it ill-advised when people are worried about jobs etc verses something a nitwit did in college. I guess we'll see in two weeks what the voters judge as more important to take up limited time in a debate for. If I'm wrong I'll admit it. :hi:

edit: typo

[DefenseLawyer]

43. I don't think the election will be a referendum on that ad

Thus I don't think anyone will be able to point to the outcome and say I told you so. But again, I ask, do you have some examples from actually elections where defining one's opponent was "ill-advised"?

[bullwinkle428]

41. Call the 'Pukes regarding a new supply of fainting couches!!

:rofl:

[TwilightGardener]

44. Stupid. Let the voters decide. In the meantime, go after some Republicans, why don'tcha.

[TheKentuckian]

46. My response to the ad was "I hope he focus grouped the shit outta that"

Followed by

"Randroid was a lot cooler in college".

Maybe it will make a few fundies stay home but I don't know the folks that this attack will play with.