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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:20 PM
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Woman stabbed during anger management class
A woman in Bellvue, Wash., is accused of stabbing another woman during an anger management class.

The Seattle Times reports that Faribah Maradiaga is charged with second-degree assault after police allege she "blew up out of control" and stabbed a classmate in the arm and shoulder several times with a three-inch blade Saturday.

Maradiaga was reportedly complaining about a video the class was watching, when the victim told her "the video was good and to give it a chance." The two women exchanged words and violence broke out, police said.

Maradiaga, who was already facing another pending assault charge, reportedly told police the other woman started it.


http://www.torontosun.com/news/weird/2010/10/18/15733046.html


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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:23 PM
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1. External locus of control
Maradiaga, who was already facing another pending assault charge, reportedly told police the other woman started it.

No doubt the person she is accused of assaulting started that incident too.

How long will it be before the rest of us "start something" with her?
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:25 PM
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2. I guess we need to ban knives, huh?
If she had used a gun, I'm sure the anti-2A'ers would be out in force about that.
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FirstTimeVoterAt37 Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:28 PM
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3. *sigh*
If she'd had a gun, that woman would be a lot more than stabbed. It takes a long fucking time to kill someone with a knife. It takes less than half a second with a gun and nobody can do anything to stop it.

I'm so tired of this ridiculous straw-man comparison. It's another sign you can't have a good-faith argument with someone on this issue.
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:38 PM
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4. I think someone wanting to strip the rights from another person is a bad sign.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:54 PM
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Supply Side Jesus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:00 PM
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8. Saw a guy die once from a solitary stab wound in the arm.
Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 08:01 PM by Supply Side Jesus
ripped his artery up, bleed out.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:04 PM
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9. Actually the fatality rate from stabbings and from shootings is roughly the same.
You have an 80% chance to survive either, given prompt medical attention.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:10 PM
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:22 PM
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13. *BIGGER sigh*
If she'd had a gun, that woman would be a lot more than stabbed. It takes a long fucking time to kill someone with a knife. It takes less than half a second with a gun and nobody can do anything to stop it.

Whats that you were saying about a strawman and a good-faith argument?

Pot, meet kettle.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:53 PM
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:09 PM
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15. What would she whine about?
No one has broken any DU rules nor has anyone been anything but civil in their responses, so what on earth would she whine to the mods about?
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:47 PM
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5. In an anger management class, YES
I am almost an absolutist when it comes to the Second Amendment, but certain things MUST be banned no matter HOW you view the second amendment. Any place where you have a good possibility of a fight (Anger management classes, bars etc) weapons should be banned. The ban should be complete and absolute. People do NOT go to Anger management classes for everything is A-OK with their lives, there is a good chance someone has a real problem.

I also believe such places should have good security, better then most places (i.e. big bouncers who know how to handle people who are angry).
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:54 PM
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6. I bet she got an F in that class.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 07:59 PM
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7. With a satisfied smile, irony called it a day.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:11 PM
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11. was it a Pauly Shore movie?
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 08:14 PM
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12. Violent offenders and non-violent are in the same class
We live fifteen miles from Bellevue (and where the incident happened,) so there's been plenty on the news about this.

I believe there should be a metal detector and wanding in a class like this. One of the issues involved is that those who were cited for violent behavior towards others are put into a class with those who were recommended to take anger management for other reasons. When the class is court-ordered, the only other choice is (evidently) jail.

It's comical that I'm reading others here insisting that there should be no such protection. After all, we all long to get shot or stabbed by someone with existing mental illness (and go ahead, argue with me that a temper that foul is not a diagnosable mental illness,) in an area we expect there would be no weapons allowed. An "anger management" class is not a place to pack heat or bring a knife under any circumstances.

The woman who was stabbed reported a few days after the incident she's lost feeling in her hand, so I anticipate this isn't over yet.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 09:52 PM
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16. An "F"....failure.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 12:37 AM
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17. I'm surprised this kind of thing doesn't happen more frequently.
Those classes have rooms full of people who have trouble controlling their anger.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 12:50 AM
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18. Wow is that Court ordered group therapy a crock. Another money grabber, just like traffic school.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:24 AM
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19. What do you suggest instead?
Isn't it better to offer some kind of coping skill or even suggestions on how to deal with this type of issue? The rest of us are pretty sick of dealing with them, that's for sure.

The only people I've ever met who were ordered to traffic school were DUI's. I'd prefer they went to jail. I'm sure they were more than happy to take the "money grabbing" traffic school alternative.
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