Atticus
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:34 PM
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Mathews lost me tonight. As he grilled Jack Conway about a bare-knuckle |
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TV ad he ran against Teabagger Rand Paul, I found myself saying out loud "Jesus Christ!(sorry---that's what I said)How much did they pay this sonofabitch for such an obvious hatchet job?"
He kept telling Conway that he had "questioned Paul's religion" and finally asked another guest if Conway was trying to "impose a religious test" contrary to the Constitution. And, that, out of the mouth of good ol' Tweety, established the false premise upon which he hung his entire transparently partisan interview.
What did Conway do to poor little Rand to merit all this pearl clutching and disgust?
He asked some questions about Rand voluntarily joining a group in college that had been banned for ridiculing Christianity. He also referenced a woman's public account of being forced, by Rand and others in this group, to bow down and "worship" something called "Aqua Buddha". She called Mr. Paul "sadistic" and said she'd never spoken to him afterward.
Fairly considered, Conway's ad questioned Paul's tolerance of others' beliefs and his character. The assertion that he "questioned Rand Paul's faith" is just total bullshit. Wouldn't you think a clean-cut, pure-as-the-driven-snow Christian libertarian like Mr. Paul could find time to actually DENY such allegations? You'd be wrong.
He has quibbled with the term "kidnapping" and said it was "all in fun", but he has not said that did not happen. His campaign still persists in what the press is callind a "non-denial denial".
So, Conway is "over the top" in asking for a response to these so far unanswered allegation?
I am tired of listening to Democrats who take library books to knife fights! Conway is FIGHTING against a monstrous and grotesque group of know-nothing-and-damn-proud-of-it political terrorists! And, in my opinion, Chris Mathews' falsely premised hit job is what was "over the top".
He forfeited what little benefit of the doubt I had tried to give him. As my wife commented, if Christine O'Donnell had run a similar ad in her campaign, Tweety would have thought it was "cute". He's a "Viagara voter" and, apparently, more concerned with pleasing his corporate masters than maintaining the meager shreds of his integrity that survived his obsession with Bill and Monica.
I will not watch or listen to him again and will question the judgement of anyone who quotes him.
That is all.
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:37 PM
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1. Yep, I have turned him off for a while |
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I wish he was not on twice a day
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:37 PM
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2. Tweety is a goddamn hypocrite because he wrote a book praising exactly that kind of |
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campaign tactic. And I seriously doubt that Jon Stewart tearing him a new one over it made him develop a sense of ethics.
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Soral
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:38 PM
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3. Maybe I am in the wrong crowd to say this... |
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But I love Mathews, because he does that to anyone in front of him, regardless of party.
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Atticus
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:50 PM
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6. And, just what is it that, in your opinion, he does? |
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Does he misrepresent what they said or did and then demand that they "explain"?
That's what he did to Jack Conway.
I don't think he is neutral or unbiased. He simply alternates who he attacks and hopes both sides will consider him "fair and balanced", as your post implies you do.
He believes that the "middle of the road" is the chosen path of Mr. and Mrs. America.
I believe the only things in the middle of the road are yellow lines and dead possums.
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:52 PM
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9. I think he asks tough questions when given the chance. |
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Although he is on Msnbc, and personally, I wish they were even more like foxnews, but for the left (only to balance it out)
.... I think he is the middle of the road, where a journalist should be.
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:02 PM
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10. Now he's a "journalist"? nt |
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:32 PM
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35. He is a product of the UNC School of Journalism, so yes, technically a journalist. |
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Same J School that gave us Charles Kuralt. Not the school's fault what former students do to waste their educations.
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:21 PM
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11. Matthews a journalist? That's a joke. Matthews is a loudmouthed slobbering fool. |
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Tue Oct-19-10 06:28 AM
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28. Middle of the Road in terms of being shallow, superficial, and without substance |
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if so, you have Tweety pegged right down the middle.
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:51 PM
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7. you apparently have never seen him talk to Tom Delay, have you? |
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I've NEVER seen him ask Delay any sort of, uh, hardball question.
never
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:52 PM
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8. No but he was caught laughing it up with Drunky Delay about how much of a bitch Hillary is. I tell |
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you it was fucking priceless.
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Tue Oct-19-10 09:59 AM
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31. He only asks difficult questions of people with little power |
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The only people he "nails" are the kind of outsiders that don't get invited to the cocktail parties in DC that he frequents. There's no one in DC that is more a fawning slave to power than Chris Matthews. I find his bizarre admiration of politicians to be extremely creepy. He's also not intellectually capable of any real policy discussion. It's all rumor, innuendo, "who's up, who's down," fact-free crap.
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:38 PM
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4. Welcome to the club, he lost me over seven years ago |
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Shortly after Bush's "Mission Accomplished" fiasco, Tweety was literally gushing over the president's manliness on TV. This in spite of the fact that he has always said he was against the Iraq War.
Tweety is a joke and a clown. I haven't watched him since.
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Mon Oct-18-10 07:45 PM
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5. I haven't watched spittle man in over five years |
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and I wouldn't watch him if he was the only one on TV.
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:23 PM
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12. which way is the wind blowing today? |
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so blows Matthews.
:boring:
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:32 PM
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13. and Conway was looking at him...... |
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as if to say---'what the hell are you blathering about?'
then---he tries to get the female professor to tell him who she is voting for -paul or conway---tweety is a complete idiot 80% of the time...the other 20%, he's still not sure about-
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:40 PM
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14. Sorry but Conway was over the line with that ad. |
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We don't like it when the other side makes these religious purity arguments. It is just hypocrisy to not condemn Conway from doing it too.
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:41 PM
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:49 PM
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16. As much as I support Conway, continue to do so, I must also concur and disagree w/ Conway |
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Edited on Mon Oct-18-10 08:50 PM by The Northerner
on that particular decision.
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:56 PM
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17. Religious purity? This was about assault and battery against a woman! |
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Mon Oct-18-10 09:57 PM
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19. Then why did he bring in the group that mocked the bible? nt |
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Tue Oct-19-10 07:01 AM
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29. ...and yet, the controversy is about Conway questioning Rand's faith |
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What does that tell you about this country?
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Mon Oct-18-10 10:01 PM
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20. Sometimes we have to do the same in order to win |
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Tue Oct-19-10 12:33 AM
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24. Then how can we say we are any better than they are? nt |
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Tue Oct-19-10 12:53 AM
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26. our policies are better than theirs are |
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Tue Oct-19-10 06:14 AM
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27. But our tactics are just as bad??? |
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Tue Oct-19-10 07:01 AM
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30. Would you say the same thing |
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if the ad were insinuating that Paul was a closet homosexual in college and remains one to this day?
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Tue Oct-19-10 02:28 PM
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Mon Oct-18-10 10:39 PM
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22. And many here who consider Barney Frank a champion of progressive governance |
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roundly criticized Larry "wide stance" Craig. NOT because of his homosexuality, but because of his HYPOCRISY!
If Rand had simply said he was an atheist or chosen some other non-Christian religion, there would be nothing to criticize. But, Mr. Paul has now voluntarily chosen to paint himself as a devout Christian and family man who epitomizes all those wonderful "family values" we always hear about.
His failure to deny that he was a pot smoker who joined a banned group to actively mock Christians and allegedly kidnapped a female, pressured her to take bong hits and forced her to worship some ridiculous alternative god of their invention, is relevant to any assessment of his character, integrity and judgment.
This is not about religious purity. It is about hypocrisy, not exactly a new concern where Republican moralists are concerned.
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Tue Oct-19-10 12:34 AM
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25. Then why didn't Conway make that the point of the ad? nt |
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Tue Oct-19-10 10:00 AM
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There is no religious test for public office. Maybe this Attorney General needs to glance at the Constitution again.
There's nothing else he can attack Paul about other than some stupid college stunts? Really?
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Mon Oct-18-10 08:57 PM
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18. DU's favorite cockroach has a colorful history of badmouthing Democrats. |
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He thought Tommy Bug"man" Delay calling Hillary a "bitch" was funny. Matthews also found himself drooling over Bush's "codpiece" :puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke: when "Mission Accomplished" was declared on May 1, 2003. Matthews also believes that George W. Bush has "sunny nobility". :wtf: does that mean?
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Mon Oct-18-10 10:17 PM
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21. I'm glad Tweety was tough. It showed me that Conway is |
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tough enough for the job. If I can make it, I will be taking photos at the Conway rally in Lexington tomorrow.
I think the Conway team is doing a scorched earth tactic to depress the vote, then put extreme effort behind GOTV. He needs to put serious doubt in a good number of Paul voters, in hope they sit on their hands Nov 2.
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Mon Oct-18-10 10:52 PM
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23. He is so full of himself |
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And loves to hear himself talk. Notice how he always tries to ask and answer his own questions like he's trying to show how "smart" he is? Ugh. I wish they'd move Ed Schultz in his spot so we could have Ed, Keith, Rachel, and Lawrence in a row. But, I guess we do need to break for supper at some point. :)
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Tue Oct-19-10 10:07 AM
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33. I also watched this put-down of Conway........ |
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and believe exactly as you do. Tweety must have some "screws loose" to put on such a public debacle!
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