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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:03 PM
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A Culture of Unreality, Militarism, Outlawry, and Arrogance
That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do. – an unnamed aid to George W. Bush, in an interview with Ron Suskind, later identified as Karl Rove.


The above quote has been frequently used to call attention to the fact that the presidential administration of George W. Bush had no respect for truth or reality, but rather made up its own reality as it went along, to suit its own purposes. It’s a telling and chilling quote, reminiscent of George Orwell’s novel, “1984”, which depicted the horrendous evils of a totalitarian state, as well as the ability of a totalitarian state to make up its own realities, as manifested by such slogans as “War is peace”, “Ignorance is strength”, and “Freedom is slavery”.

War can be depicted as peace by naming the government agency of war the “Defense Department”. Since its main purpose is “defense”, a nation that accounts for a mere 5% of the world’s population can expend as much on its military as the rest of the world combined, accumulating massive national debts, while the architects of that military expenditure complain with a straight face that the national debt can be resolved only through massive cuts in social programs – and few call them on their absurd reasoning. Such a nation can invade other nations and bomb the hell out of them, killing hundreds of thousands of civilians, and justify it as “defense” or “national security”. And then its leaders can refer to those from the invaded nation who resist their invasion as “terrorists”. And when the excuse for the invasion is proven to be a lie, they can simply change the reason for the invasion to something like, “We’re trying to bring democracy to them. They should be grateful to us. Why do they try to kill our brave soldiers who are trying to liberate their country?”

Ignorance is strength in that as long as we remain ignorant of reality we can create our own reality, which is much more pleasing and self-satisfying. We can believe that we are so superior to others that we can do whatever we want – or whatever our leaders tell us we need to do – without having to worry about whether it is right or wrong. Everything we do is morally right by definition. And slavery is freedom in that as long as we do everything that our leaders tell us to do and think what they tell us to think, we will be “free” – and it requires almost no work to do that.

Don’t think for a minute that this started or ended with the Bush II administration. All nations indoctrinate their citizens in their national myths, in their attempt to create loyalty. But in the United States, aided by a press corps that is largely subservient to corporate interests, it has reached ridiculous proportions in recent years.

Refusing to see reality as it is rather than as one would like it to be has its price. When individuals fail to perceive reality to an extreme extent psychologists refer to them as “psychotic”, and they can be institutionalized for that. But when whole cultures manifest that problem we don’t have a well accepted term for it. Mary Watkins and Helene Shulman deal with this issue in their book, “Toward Psychologies of Liberation”:

When one recognizes the possibility that historical amnesia, manic defense, and normative deafness may be central to the way one knows the world (i.e. perceives reality), one can begin to think about their deadening effects. Interruptions may then be revelatory by producing moments of undeadness that wake us up…


U.S. militarism

Perhaps the most fundamental misconception that Americans have about their country is that it is a shining example to people throughout the world of a “nation of laws and peace”. Yes, it has lots of laws, and most of them are enforced to one degree or another. But as a member of the international community it sticks out like a sore thumb as the prime example of an outlaw nation with a long history of military aggression of dubious morality.

The continental expansion of our nation involved more than a century of wars against the then current inhabitants of our continent, leading to their near extermination and a war of aggression against Mexico (1846-8). To bolster our economy, hundreds of thousands of former Africans were born or sold into slavery, stripped of all rights whatsoever, and often had to endure a lifetime of brutality at the hands of their white masters. Those facts are fairly well known. But too many Americans think of all that simply as “past history”.

In this post I noted numerous illegal, immoral, or genocidal overseas military and other aggressive interventions in sovereign nations, including: Hawaii (1893); Puerto Rico (1898); Cuba (1898-1903); the Philippines (1899-1902); Nicaragua (1909); Honduras (1912); Russia (1918-); Iran (1953); Vietnam (1954-73); South and Central America (1954-); Cuba (1961); Indonesia (1965); the Dominican Republic (1965); Cambodia (1970-75); Laos (1969-74); and East Timor (1975).

Most or all of the military or CIA interventions noted above were illegal as well as immoral. And there have been lots more. The mere fact of forceful intervention against a sovereign nation was what made them illegal and immoral. Beyond that, many or most of them were associated with additional crimes and/or atrocities:

The Vietnam War
U.S. atrocities in the Vietnam War, for example, were a regular occurrence. Much of the evidence for that comes from the testimony of veterans, such as one who testified at the 1971 Winter Soldier Hearings in Detroit, explaining the attitude towards the Vietnamese people that was instilled in U.S. soldiers.

It wasn’t as if they were humans. We were conditioned to believe this was for the good of the nation, the good of our country, and that anything we did was o.k. And like when you shot someone you didn’t think you were shooting at a human. They were a gook or a Commie and that was o.k. … and they were inferior to us. We were Americans, we were the civilized people.

Iraq War
An article by Laila Al-Arian described shocking testimony from a veteran of the Iraq War:

Pfc. Clifton Hicks was given an order. Abu Ghraib had become a "free-fire zone," Hicks was told, and no "friendlies" or civilians remained in the area. "Game on. All weapons free," his captain said. Upon that command, Hicks's unit opened a furious fusillade, firing wildly into cars, at people scurrying for cover, at anything that moved. Sent in to survey the damage, Hicks found the area littered with human and animal corpses, including women and children, but he saw no military gear or weapons of any kind near the bodies. In the aftermath of the massacre, Hicks was told that his unit had killed 700-800 "enemy combatants." But he knew the dead were not terrorists or insurgents; they were innocent Iraqis. "I will agree to swear to that till the day I die," he said. "I didn't see one enemy on that operation."

Soldiers and marines at Winter Soldier described the frustration of routinely raiding the wrong homes and arresting the wrong people… "This is not an isolated incident," the testifiers uttered over and over… insisting that the atrocities they committed or witnessed were common….

While the Winter Soldiers offered a searing critique of the military's treatment of civilians, which they described as alternately inhumane and sadistic, they also empathized with fellow soldiers thrust into a chaotic urban theater where the lines between combatants and civilians are blurred. "It's criminal to put such patriotic Americans...in a situation where their morals are at odds with their survival instincts"…

Proxy war in Central America
We’ve also committed numerous crimes by proxy. Carl Boggs describes U.S. sponsored aggression in Central America during the 1980s in his book, “The Crimes of Empire – Rogue Superpower and World Domination”. Referencing the U.N. Commission on Salvadoran Death Squads, Boggs says:

Their agenda was to wipe out all domestic opposition to the Washington-backed power structure. In the period 1980 to 1992 the U.S. spent six billion dollars to sustain one of the most ruthless proxy military campaigns ever waged in the Western hemisphere. That campaign produced a death toll estimated as high as 75,000, along with displacement of one fourth of the population (mostly poor peasants)…


U.S. outlawry in general

I’ve discussed the frequent U.S. use of torture during the Bush administration in several previous posts, including this one. In another post I discussed the flagrant abuse of international law during the Bush II administration. Carl Boggs talks about the U.S. use of torture and other crimes against humanity quite a bit in his book. Here is a summary paragraph:

A nation that has so often carried out military aggression, wantonly attacked civilian populations and targets, destroyed entire societies, used weapons of mass destruction, and deployed its armed might to crush oppositional movements around the world – killing millions and displacing tens of millions more in the process – cannot be expected to shy away from torture and similar atrocities… Illegal detentions, denial of due process, kidnappings, assassinations, death squad murders, and cruel interrogation methods are simply another expression of imperial power.

Boggs makes the point that, following the U.S. efforts to establish a solid basis for international law following World War II – in the creation of the United Nations and in the Nuremberg Tribunal – its adherence to international law has been abysmal:

The sad reality is that, following Nuremberg, Washington has never supported an independent tribunal with jurisdiction over war crimes, crimes against humanity, and human rights abuses… The U.S. steadfastly ignored the International Criminal Court, justifiably fearful that such an impartial tribunal might be empowered to try American government and military personnel for war crimes… None of this bodes well for the future of international legality and peaceful relations among nations that just six decades ago was upheld as the great promise of Nuremberg, the U.N. Charter, and the Geneva Conventions.

Of all the international laws objected to by the Bush administration, the International Criminal Court (ICC) topped the list. Though the Bush administration provided many excuses for its hostility to the ICC, the underlying issue appeared to be that it could not tolerate the possibility that an American could ever be tried before the Court. For example, Bush claimed that the Court’s jurisdiction cannot extend to Americans because that will undermine “the independence and flexibility that America needs to defend our national interests around the world”. Phillip Sands, in his book “Lawless World – The Whistle-Blowing Account of How Bush and Blair Are Taking the Law into Their Own Hands”, posed the following pertinent rhetorical question to that excuse:

The flexibility to do what? The flexibility to commit war crimes? The flexibility to provide assistance to others in perpetrating crimes against humanity? The flexibility to turn a blind eye when your allies commit genocide?

Of course the Bush administration was not alone in that attitude. No other U.S. presidential administration has seen fit to join the ICC either.


U.S. arrogance

Of course the refusal to be bound by international law is one flagrant indication of arrogance. Boggs provides numerous examples in his book. Perhaps the best example is the rationalization the U.S. uses in its refusal to be bound by international law – which basically is that it is inconceivable that U.S. government officials or soldiers could commit an international crime. Boggs explains:

No U.S. political leader has ever believed that any facet of American global behavior could possibly be regarded as illegal or criminal; whatever occurs under the aegis of Washington decision-making is, by definition, noble, beyond the reach of ethical or legal condemnation… Those standing in the way of U.S. power often find themselves depicted as impediments to human progress, as enemies of democracy…

Most egregiously, the refusal to be bound by international law even extends to the most fundamental of war crimes – the undertaking of aggressive war:

The erosion of American political culture is so advanced that legal and moral concerns about U.S. global behavior never get raised, much less debated. In late 2002 the U.S. Congress gave President Bush “authority” to use military force against Iraq, as if such a resolution affirming superpower interests might trump established principles of international law. The American political consensus was, and still remains, that such rules cannot set limits to the pursuit of national interests, as reflected in Bush’s statement on the eve of war, “I don’t care what the international lawyers say, we are going to kick some ass”. The prevailing ethos among U.S. politicians, the media, and even most academics was that “preemptive war” against Iraq might be illegal but it was nonetheless legitimate.

This attitude applies not only to U.S. elites – It extends to most of the American people as well:

A 2005 German Marshall Fund survey found Americans far more willing than Europeans to dismiss the U.N. and other international organizations in situations where vital U.S. objectives might be compromised. The poll revealed that Americans have less interest in global events and institutions than do Europeans and, by a large majority, believe U.S. leaders should not be required to seek U.N. approval for military action… No doubt many years of U.S. outlawry and rejectionism were destined to have this sort of impact on the public opinion.


Propaganda in the cause of creating a culture of unreality

Carl Boggs speaks of how the U.S. propaganda machine usually persuades the American people to support the wars that our elites favor:

Immense financial and military resources, often secretly allocated, have been poured into such operations. Targeted groups are systematically demonized through efforts of government, the mass media, think tanks, and public relations campaigns, so that popular consent is manufactured for any U.S. military operation that the elites decide to pursue.

In the case of Iraq the propaganda machine went into action several years ahead of time:

The road to war never followed on the basis of actual problems and threats related to Iraq, but was opened up by a lengthy, expensive propaganda campaign managed in great part by the Rendon Group and abetted by the corporate media… The Pentagon secretly awarded Rendon tens of millions of dollars in contracts to provide the ideological context in which regime change in Iraq could be effectively pursued… Rendon was able to construct a public understanding of Iraq as the greatest menace to world peace…

Boggs explains that the American people have been so thoroughly documented into the cause of war that they have learned to overlook terrible crimes – crimes that the United States took the lead in defining with its leadership in the creation of the United Nations following World War II:

Of course no political actors admit to conscious intent when it comes to their criminal behavior… yet for the U.S. military the pattern of criminal behavior is so lengthy, so repetitive, so obvious, so extreme, and so clearly tied to imperial aims that only Americans indoctrinated in the pervasive ideology of Empire might blindly overlook it.

It’s not only active propaganda that indoctrinates the American people into this lawless culture. It’s also what is NOT spoken of.

In “The American Way of War”, Tom Engelhardt spends much space discussing the widespread use of American airpower in the cause of war, with emphasis on the resulting massive civilian casualties – otherwise known as “collateral damage”. Despite the fact that this use of airpower frequently and clearly constitutes war crimes, it is rarely mentioned by U.S. politicians, journalists, or other elites:

The expansion of U.S. airpower is the great missing story… Is there no reporter out there willing to cover it? Is the repeated bombing, strafing, and missiling of heavily populated civilian urban centers and the partial or total destruction of cities such a humdrum event… that no one thinks it worth the bother?

Engelhardt also notes the strange criteria for what constitutes war experts in our country:

Among those automatically disqualified for expertise on Iraq: just about anyone who bluntly rejected the idea of invading Iraq or predicted any version of the catastrophe that ensued before it happened. Disqualified above all were any of those antiwar types…


Consequences

The consequences of U.S. militarism, outlawry, arrogance and refusal to acknowledge reality when it stares them in the face have not yet been fully manifested – not by a long shot. Boggs comments that the United States poses the greatest threat of any nation to the survival of world civilization as we know it:

By the early 21st Century, it would not be too far-fetched to depict the U.S. as the foremost menace to planetary survival. Washington has waged illegal warfare in flagrant contempt of the U.N., international law, and world public opinion; carried out indiscriminate attacks on civilians and life-supporting infrastructures; broken or disregarded many international treaties; perpetrated massacres and other atrocities; practiced torture; carried out crimes by proxy; planned the militarization of outer space; possesses by far the largest nuclear arsenal still encased in first-use doctrine; and imposed ruinous sanctions on nations designated as “enemies.” This horrific legacy remains very much alive within a still-expanding imperial edifice tied to a permanent war economy, security state, hundreds of military bases scattered across the globe, and a growing presence in outer space.

I would just add to that the U.S. role in planetary climate change, which threatens massive world-wide catastrophes for humans and animals the likes of which have never before been seen, in the not very distant future. The U.S. is the biggest per capita contributor to the problem, yet is the only rich nation in the world that refuses to contribute substantially to the solution.
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Hawkowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:12 AM
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1. They hate us for our Freedom!
Our freedom to loot and pillage their countries of all wealth. Our freedom to murder other countries' inhabitants for any and all reasons. Our freedom to turn any country on the planet into a smoking pile of rubble.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:20 AM
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2. You're right!
So that's what George W. Bush must have meant!
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 07:05 AM
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3. the title of this really does say it all.
And starting out with a statement by Karl Rove is perfect to show the mindset of our leadership....which I have felt for some time has use two books as a play book for their empire building....one is obviously 1984 and the other is The Prince by Machiavelli....which provides the rational to do what works and puts aside all moral concerns.
And essentially these principles are taught in schools...mostly in business schools...that what works is good no matter what moral concerns may be stepped on....and these schools turn out the leadership for the next generation.

I don't know what the answer to this problem is but we must change things or become the world Orwell warned about.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:02 AM
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8. 1984
In the early 1980s a friend of mine told me about 1984 and strongly suggested that I read it. At the time, for some reason it didn't sound worth while to me, and I didn't read it for several years. But as I heard more and more about it, and as its message began to resonate as being eerily reminiscent of our current political culture, I finally decided to read it a couple years ago. It's a very scary book, and something that everyone should think about IMO. I wish it was required reading for high school, but with our current political culture that will not happen.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:17 AM
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10. I can't remember when I first read it
But it was probably in the 70s...And in the copy I read it had a section at the rear where Orwell wrote essays on the use of language that really impressed me with his understanding and intelect....and went a long way to my understanding of how language can be used to control people.
Orwell was an astute observer of the world.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 07:21 AM
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4. Just to kick this for the morning crew.
Here is a quote from The Prince.

Concerning the behavior of a prince toward his subjects, Machiavelli writes: "Men have imagined republics and principalities that never really existed at all. Yet the way men live is so far removed from the way they ought to live that anyone who abandons what is, for what should be pursues his downfall rather than his preservation; for a man who strives after goodness in all his acts is sure to come to ruin, since there are so many men who are not good." Since there are many possible qualities that a prince can be said to possess, he must not be overly concerned about having all the good ones. Also, a prince may be perceived to be merciful, faithful, humane, frank, and religious, but he must only seem to have these qualities. A prince cannot truly have these qualities because at times it is necessary to act against them. Although a bad reputation should be avoided, this is not crucial in maintaining power. The only ethic that matters is one that is beneficial to the prince in dealing with the concerns of his state.

That last sentence is what is taught in business schools across the nation

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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 11:16 AM
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11. Taught in business schools across the nation
Is it concerns of the state that is taught in business schools, or is it concerns of private profit? I thought it was more the latter.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 11:34 AM
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12. Well it is the latter.
But it was about HIS state not the state...which is eventually the same as for his profit not the profit of all.
And our system creates principalities by giving corporations and wealthy concerns great economic and political power it is relevant....at least I see it that way.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 12:39 PM
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13. I see what you mean. Yes, it's the same general principle.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:10 AM
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5. An appalling culture.
Replacing that culture with one of peace, of equality and justice, would be change I can believe in.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:20 AM
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6. And it can be done
But to change the culture you have to change the heart.
When violence, inequity, and injustice is held in disgrace people will change.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 02:56 PM
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15. Absolutely
On a superficial level, violence, inequity and injustice is held in disgrace. But our "leaders" are careful to disguise them as "patriotism", "free market" capitalism, and "responsibility" or "law and order". We need to learn to cut through the disguises.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 06:04 PM
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24. But not really in popular culture.
Just look at what is on the TV....How many cop shows have you seen where the hero is a cop that violates the law over and over again, but he is held up as a hero because he gets the bad guy...
And then there are shows like 24 that openly hold up violence as a good thing.
I believe that there is no way a child growing up with this kind of programing can ever be peaceful or just or care anything about equality....that is unless he has exceptional parents or a natural love for the world and humanity.
I think the change will have to be fundamental...in all of us.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:09 PM
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27. Interestingly, I started reading "Schooled," by Gordon Korman,
with a small group of students today. Korman doesn't exactly write ground-breaking stuff; usually it's easy reading, high-interest for middle schoolers.

This one is VERY funny, which draws the kids in, but the underlying message is crystal clear, too. It's about a 13 yo who has lived on a farm, a former hippie commune, with his grandmother all his life. He's been homeschooled, completely sheltered from the outside world, and is forced to go to town and attend middle school. Culture shock? You bet. The kid can't believe how violent and nasty the real world is.

It's fertile ground for some great conversations with my students.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:32 PM
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28. Wow I bet that would be an interesting story.
And it could make kids think about what peace is really like.
You should report on the results if you try it.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:09 AM
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20. Where to begin?
At home. At work. I teach 6th-8th graders; plenty of opportunity there. In the community, by giving of my time and energy.

That's what a single person can do. Where do we, as larger groups, begin?
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 06:06 PM
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25. I really wish I had the answer to that.
Organizing things has never been a skill of mine....I only know that hearts and minds have to change...but how to do that is above my pay grade.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 09:23 AM
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7. Re the quote...I don't know why that's not played over and over when asking
gop candidates about governing under the gop label. It's at the heart of their philosophy and goes to 30 years of organizing think tanks, media ownership, talking points distribution, and deception.

Save the rest for later reading.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 01:21 PM
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14. It definitely should be
I've often thought about what the reasons are: 1) Some of them have understandings with the corporatocracy that they's better not push things too far; 2) They're afraid of getting excoriated by the corporate media (which is a realistic fear IMO); 3) They're stupid.

I don't think they're stupid.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 07:21 AM
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21. Their created realities rely on message control (i.e., their media).
Part of that message control means having reporters that will never challenge you; they'll constantly lob you easy-to-catch softballs. Proof positive is how you can't ask SarUH Palin certain questions during a VP debate.

Another reality they love to pull on America (and sadly, it works) is, for example, painting a guy who volunteered to be a human target in Vietnam as a coward, a liar and an unworthy Presidential Candidate. It's kind of like insinuating that an ham-n-egger, thumb-up-his-ass TeaBirther apparently knows more about The Constitution than, say, a Constitutional Law Scholar and lecturer (who just happens to be our President).
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 10:13 AM
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9. Auto K&R.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 05:13 PM
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16. +1
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 06:39 PM
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17. kickety. recety.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 07:04 PM
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18. I really thought this time would be different.
We were voting for a practical Democrat after the GOP crashed our economy and our ethics in very brazen ways. The economy had never looked so much like the late 20's before. Clearly unbalanced plutocracy. Clearly in need of re-regulation and millions of government jobs.

I really loved my dream of all Democrats going super FDR on the country in terms of Medicare for All, massive jobs programs, green retrofitting, and at a minimum a restoration of habeas corpus and total cessation and repudiation of torture. And those trials would have opened the door to re-examining our military budgets and priorities.

But we needed to zoom in to power super Democratically, and we didn't. We let the party that was at 29% popularity rebuild itself to 40-something%. We gave the heartless GOP the breathing room to create the ultra-hard-right-crazies to make their incumbent GOP monsters look reasonable by comparison.

While I am hoping enough of our people can defy the massive propaganda and vote Democratic again, I'm also wishing I'd been more serious about finding a way to live in some other country with a more compassionate, logical quality of life. Should have joined my friend who moved off to Paris after the Bush coup d'etat in 2000.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:15 PM
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19. Those are wonderful dreams
In retrospect they seem like 'pie in the sky', but we were certainly given reason to believe in them. What a shame! Turning this thing around will be one hell of a challenge.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 09:14 AM
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22. It sure will be. //nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 03:40 PM
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23. It was an opportunity to repair the damage done and progress our nation,
the likes of which we haven't seen in 80 years.

They pissed it away.


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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:08 PM
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26. I agree. And wish so much that our Dems had let the President do the bipartisan outreach
while they stayed staunch about the havoc the GOP had wrought while they were in charge.

While our president reached out, they could have stood firm around Democratic core principles.

But they didn't. Sigh...

They let the government-hating GOP appoint right wing judicial activists to our supreme court, while loudly condemning judicial activism as a concept.

That's what the Gingrich Rove Gang do-- loudly accuse the opposition of that which you yourselves are doing. Very frequently.

We need to proceed with the clean up. GOP idiots please-- get out of the way. Enough already. You crashed our economy a mere two years ago. Enough already.

So we're counting on the youth who are savvy about the multi-tiered propaganda efforts of the Hard Right Top Dollar Brigade. We're counting on them to rush to the polls to say No No No to more GOP madness.



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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-20-10 08:41 PM
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